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Location: Campbell River, British Columbia | Originally posted by Slipkid:
Cliff.... I bet you would love to land the design job for the next Ovation booth. Oh hell, he'd prob'ly do it for nothin' just for the love of the gaaaame! Right?
Or maybe a #47... |
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Location: NJ | I don't need no steenking #47!!
(I've got #54).
A CustomDoubleNeck'd be schweet, tho . . . |
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Location: Earth·SolarSystem·LocalInterstellarCloud·Local Bub | More from NAMM:
"ChinOs":
Blackbird- Cool concept in a travel guitar. Phenolic Resin Hollowbody (including neck with soundhole where the TRC would be) with Carbon fiber top:
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Location: SoCal | I wonder who's going to end up buying that 2080 that Tup's in love with? |
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Location: Phoenix AZ | Originally posted by moody, p.i.:
I wonder who's going to end up buying that 2080 that Tup's in love with? Some dealer bought it. Dave |
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Location: Wooster, Ohio | Awesome pictures!! Thanks Heard on another site that that carbon travel guitar is $1500. Hard to believe.
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Location: Earth·SolarSystem·LocalInterstellarCloud·Local Bub | the Founders at the Blackbird booth told me $1200.00. Yes, that's steep for a travel guitar, but the design USA... |
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Location: Wooster, Ohio | That shiny 2080 seems to me to be greatly influenced by CA. Almost looks like a CA. I think they know where their competition is. That whole shiny bowl thing could be a wind blowing from the south. They may end up doing it better, sparkles are cool.
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Location: Scotland | Originally posted by cliff:
Who's that in the last pic playing the Adamas with the Gband?? That's Harvey Reid with my new ex-Witko Adamas 2. As that pic was taken he'd just taken off a GB-1 at the 10th fret and switched to a Shubb partial at the 2nd. Harvey pretty much invented the entire concept of the partial capo 30 years ago. Harvey is a real nice guy and a KILLER player. Kinda freaked me out a little when he came back a second year to watch my demo! Harvey and Jeff Hickey designed the 3rd Hand Capo in the early 80's and the industry seems to be getting hip to the partial capo deal right about now. Just watch some bigshot with a ton of marketing dollars try to claim it as theirs. |
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Location: Scotland | Originally posted by 45flint:
That shiny 2080 seems to me to be greatly influenced by CA.
Steve Time for a reality check. CA are hardly in a position to be influencing the company that established the concept of a non-wood acoustic guitar in the global market place and have held the position of the ONLY composite instrument to have mass market acceptance for over 30 years.
There were several reasons why I made a point of visiting the CA stand. 1)I thought I liked them a few years ago at NAMM but the ambient noise in hall E made it impossible to be sure 2) They were a really nice bunch of guys 3) I'd run out of the bottle of Louisiana Hot Sauce they gave me. Fortunately this time they were up and out of the mayhem.
So, my impressions. The Dreadnought style guitar sounds exactly like a really expensive, absolutely stellar wooden dreadnought. Which is exactly why I hated it. Great guitar, I'm sure it will be very successful but not for me. The X was wonderful. Has everything I want in a guitar. They had 3 on the booth, all sounded different, 2 I loved and 1 was mediocre. So much for carbon fibre consistency. If there was no such thing as an Adamas I'd play CA, but right now I have no need for one. |
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Location: 6 String Ranch | It looked like Harvey. I met him again last year, a real nice guy and monster player! Has a great song on his newest CD called Goodyears. |
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Location: nyc area | Hey Bill... had a nice Jam w/ mr Dowling at the national booth... big fun! |
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Location: Campbell River, British Columbia | Hard to believe some of you work in such a cutthroat biz.... 
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Location: Phoenix AZ | Btw, I played a Collings mando that was STUNNING. I can only imagine the price tag. Easily the nicest mando I have ever seen. Dave |
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Location: Paris/France | Originally posted by kid-school:
Great Paul! Knowing Jerome, we'll see it soon.
Karl The package is arrived 30 minutes ago.
The Custom Shop Brochure is viewable ON THIS PAGE
I hope you will enjoy it.
Thank you so much Paul !!!
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Location: Phoenix AZ | Brochure says "go to the adamasguitars.com website for more detailed information".
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Location: Wooster, Ohio | Paul, No one is arguing against what Ovation has done for pioneering and mainstreaming the concept of a non wood guitar. Without an Ovation there would probably not have been a CA. But innovation I think often happens at the fringes. I am not sure the reality check needs to be here. If you look at the current CA's with the gloss bursting and the custom 2080 gloss burst the similarity is striking. I appreciate your impressions of their guitars at NAMM but for the life of me I can't understand why anyone with an appreciation for what Ovation has done would not just say "go for it guys". I talked with a custom wood guitar builder that knows some of the player endorsers of CA guitar and they say that there is inconsistancy in their sound from guitar to guitar which is puzzling. Competition is a good thing and drives all to be better, the custom shop is a great example of this. Build your own guitar how cool is that. In the end we all get something that is better. Watch I bet int he future the custom shop will have a graphite bowl option, why not.
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Location: Germany | Thanks Jerome. I knew that we can count on you!
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Location: NJ | the 2080 gloss burst is similar to an Adamas Q in fact that was the vibe Rick Hall was trying to get. How do I know? He told me so at Namm on thursday morning about 10 am.
The Q has been a research project for at least 12-15 years. |
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Location: Phoenix AZ | To me, that gloss 2080 was the coolest guitar at the whole show ...
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| Wonder what they would charge for a 'Custom Shop 1581' in Baritone?...that would be sweet! Can't stop looking at that guitar!.. |
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Location: Phoenix AZ | Originally posted by Steve:
Wonder what they would charge for a 'Custom Shop 1581' in Baritone?...that would be sweet! Can't stop looking at that guitar!.. The 1581 CSA that was on display had a list of something like $4200. Probably Bari pushes it up near $4500. list.
All 4 of the displays had list prices $4200-$4700. range. CSA will not be cheap.
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Location: Germany | They write that top finishes can be changed to a stock color and a non-stock color. Does that mean you can get any color without restrictions?
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Location: Phoenix AZ | Just guessing, but I would think:
- change to another stock color is small upcharge
- have them do a custom color is big upcharge
I'm sure there are things they will NOT do, either because it's techncially too difficult or it just violates their "principles".
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