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cliff
Posted 2007-02-13 2:37 PM (#115538 - in reply to #115488)
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DO they??

do they REALLY???
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Tupperware
Posted 2007-02-13 3:00 PM (#115539 - in reply to #115488)
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FOR THE RECORD. I never mentioned Martin, or any other company by name wrt this issue. I was only stating the obvious geometry problem that the angles of the Ovation headstock are not optimum. Probably other brands suffer this as well. BUT, there certainly ARE some other brands that have done the math such that the strings never contact the wood of the peghead.

Maybe these other brands with beautifully configured slotted headstocks with no string rub actually sound like crap, are ugly, play horriby, electronics suck, etc. But they got the match right on the design of the slots.

Dave
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Tony Calman
Posted 2007-02-13 3:12 PM (#115540 - in reply to #115488)
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Only guitars that I have, or had, that there isn't clearance from nut to post is the 1658 CL 12-str and that is due to the carved TRC...if I was worried about that, could easily plane down the back of the TRC. As to other 12's (three GC slotheads that I had or the old shiny bowl) have clearance. As to the 6-strings, no problem. Only Ovation guitar I saw with that problem - strings were not wound toward the outside.
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Tupperware
Posted 2007-02-13 3:33 PM (#115541 - in reply to #115488)
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Maybe I'm just unlucky.
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Tony Calman
Posted 2007-02-13 3:50 PM (#115542 - in reply to #115488)
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Maybe I'm just unlucky
Doubt it, probably the other way around that I have been lucky...you've seen a lot more slotheads than I ever will.
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FlicKreno aka Solid Top
Posted 2007-02-13 5:55 PM (#115543 - in reply to #115488)
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Actually ,it can be fixed easily,Solution ; Drill holes in pegs differently,But,the issue was about , Many Windings can cause Tuning/Instability :(

Vic ;)
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Jason_S
Posted 2007-02-13 9:04 PM (#115544 - in reply to #115488)
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my 1114 slothead holds tuning perfectly. its been on the wall for 2 months now(since i bought my adamas) and still in tune...i wind 2-4 wraps and wind to the outside and i dont have much issues...jason
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TexasDoc
Posted 2007-02-13 9:35 PM (#115545 - in reply to #115488)
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Originally posted by muzza:
But the spangly colour? Is that what makes it sound so good?
I didn't like the colors either so I ordered a 12 fret 2080. (Actually ordered a UTE cutaway, but ended up with this one).

Here is a sound bit.

Photo:
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richardd
Posted 2007-02-14 2:29 AM (#115546 - in reply to #115488)
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I must admit when it comes to Adamai, I'm a textured top man myself but I have to say that's a pretty mean looking Adamas.

It has a nice open tone Dave.
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Capo Guy
Posted 2007-02-14 9:12 PM (#115547 - in reply to #115488)
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ttenn,

If you tell us that picture was taken recently you will tick a large number of members from the northeast.
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TexasDoc
Posted 2007-02-15 12:37 AM (#115548 - in reply to #115488)
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Sorry, although its not as bad here as up there, it only got up to 33 today.

I know its not 12 feet of snow, but 33 to us Texans is just downright unnatural. We are used to 100+ weather.

That photo was taken shortly after I got the guitar, around September.
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guitar1580
Posted 2007-02-15 4:24 AM (#115549 - in reply to #115488)
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I must say, those slothead guitars in all of those pics on this thread look pretty sweet to me. Wish i could hear them. I've never had much chance to play an Adamas. What do you guys think is different about the sound, compared to the other ovations? and, isn't there also wood and graphite tops? how do they differ in sound? everyone always seems impressed with them....i guess i'm gonna have to go get my hands on one...you guys have me wondering.
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Jason_S
Posted 2007-02-15 4:30 AM (#115550 - in reply to #115488)
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ive been lucky enough to play 2 #47's and a original slothead,#54(cliffs) and they are realy sweet guitars. the adamas top moves alot more than a wood top..more tone and volume..the tops are a sandwich of birch between 2 carbon fibre layers....verrry fine guitars...jason
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Tupperware
Posted 2007-02-15 6:52 AM (#115551 - in reply to #115488)
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If you're into wood and abalone, there's even a Custom Legend Slothead.

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Weaser P
Posted 2007-02-15 8:00 AM (#115552 - in reply to #115488)
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That is a gorgeous guitar.
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Jeff W.
Posted 2007-02-15 8:00 AM (#115553 - in reply to #115488)
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We hear very little of the Folklore LX6774, also a slot. If were going to buy a new Ovation, that guitar would be at the very top of my list.
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Waskel
Posted 2007-02-15 8:23 AM (#115554 - in reply to #115488)
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Is that the royal "we", or do you gave a badger in your pocket?
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Tupperware
Posted 2007-02-15 8:30 AM (#115555 - in reply to #115488)
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I'd be a tad more interested in the Folklore LX if it was a 12 fretter. But still it's a very nice guitar.

Dave
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Jeff W.
Posted 2007-02-15 8:44 AM (#115556 - in reply to #115488)
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True. It would be suh-weet ifin itwer a 12 fretter. The badger and I would be most excited.
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cliff
Posted 2007-02-15 9:51 AM (#115557 - in reply to #115488)
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I don't care what anyone says, THIS one is "th'Shizzle" :



"ONE of These Days" . . . I'll get my hairy arse across the Pond & play it . . .
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moody, p.i.
Posted 2007-02-15 10:00 AM (#115558 - in reply to #115488)
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Ditto what Clifford said......
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philmax
Posted 2007-02-15 10:05 AM (#115559 - in reply to #115488)
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who belongs to that guitar Cliff? nice touch, on the seperate mike, martin is doing o lot of this seperate mike stuff now!
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Paul Templeman
Posted 2007-02-15 10:09 AM (#115560 - in reply to #115488)
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That would be me. It sounds as good as it looks.
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cliff
Posted 2007-02-15 10:15 AM (#115561 - in reply to #115488)
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". . martin is doing o lot of this seperate mike stuff now! . ."

How innovative.

What's yours, Paul? . . . about four years old, now?? . . .
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Paul Templeman
Posted 2007-02-15 10:22 AM (#115562 - in reply to #115488)
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It was built in June 2003, but Ovation did the mini-mic thing originally on I think the '95 collectors. I changed the set-up a little. The OPP has a bone saddle and goes via an Op50. The mike is indepenant and goes direct out on it's own XLR. I did that so I could send the mike signal to FOH only and keep it out of my monitors.

The mic is pretty useless by itself, but when mixed with the pickup (80% pickup, 20% mic) It adds sparkle and "air" that you just can't get from a pickup alone.
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