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DarenSavage |
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Joined: December 2016 Posts: 128 | First coat of clear is on the top. Beautiful! I can't wait to see the rest. | ||
DanSavage |
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Joined: June 2012 Posts: 2316 Location: Pueblo West, CO | d'ovation - 2019-09-16 8:42 AM The bowl history is very interesting. I wonder how this has continued into the more recent times. For example, I have an 1687 RI but assume that it has a SMC bowl and not the period-correct second generation cloth, the paint has come off in places and it is bright white below. Also, I assume that with the overseas AX models their bowls are made right there in China or Korea. Then with the most recent New Hartford/new small shop Adamas they state hand-laid bowl as a feature, and it would be good to know more details about the process they are using now. The difference between a cloth bowl and an SMC bow is easy to spot. The SMC bowls have the characteristic molded webbing around the neck/body joint. Hand-laid cloth bowls will have a wood neck block. My 50th Anniversary CL has a cloth bowl and wood neck block. The neck is a bolt-on joint. | ||
DanSavage |
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Joined: June 2012 Posts: 2316 Location: Pueblo West, CO | DarenSavage - 2019-09-16 7:45 PM Beautiful! I can't wait to see the rest. Thanks, bra. Me, too. | ||
clrules |
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Joined: September 2005 Posts: 138 Location: Birmingham, AL | Dan, are you still using the same lacquer/finish on this top as the other ones? BTW really looks nice. I appreciate the efforts of rebuilding Ovations. I have always played O's and have for 43 years. | ||
DanSavage |
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Joined: June 2012 Posts: 2316 Location: Pueblo West, CO | I've gone back and forth on the finish between Minwax Polyurethane rattle can and Eastwood 2K Urethane rattle can. I experimented on different rebuilds. Some, like my Frankenvation, I used only Minwax. On others, such as Jen's 1613, I used the Minwax poly as a primer/grain filler, then topped it off with Eastwood 2K. Lately, I've found I like using the Eastwood 2K as the sole finish, mainly because of how quickly the finish 'builds.' One thing I do like about the Minwax is that it will harden up and shrink over a few months time and is a lot like a thin lacquer finish. Edited by DanSavage 2019-09-18 9:36 AM | ||
DanSavage |
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Joined: June 2012 Posts: 2316 Location: Pueblo West, CO | Clear coats are done. I'll set the bowl aside for a couple of weeks and concentrate on the neck. | ||
DanSavage |
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Joined: June 2012 Posts: 2316 Location: Pueblo West, CO | First job is to remove the frets. Plenty of heat ensured easy removal with no chip-out. Next, remove the white binding. I did damage the finish slightly during the process, but it will be invisible once it's done. | ||
DarenSavage |
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Joined: December 2016 Posts: 128 | DanSavage - 2019-09-19 9:17 PM First job is to remove the frets. Plenty of heat ensured easy removal with no chip-out. Next, remove the white binding. I did damage the finish slightly during the process, but it will be invisible once it's done. Kewl. This is the part of the build I've been looking forward to. Buckle your seatbelts everyone! | ||
DanSavage |
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Joined: June 2012 Posts: 2316 Location: Pueblo West, CO | DarenSavage - 2019-09-19 11:00 PM Kewl. This is the part of the build I've been looking forward to. Buckle your seatbelts everyone! Yes, this job is definitely the interesting part of this build. I finally received my shell order from down under. The dots and diamonds will probably work okay. The squares are a little small for the job. I may have to make my own. I'll post some pics a little later today. | ||
DanSavage |
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Joined: June 2012 Posts: 2316 Location: Pueblo West, CO |
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moody, p.i. |
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Joined: March 2002 Posts: 15664 Location: SoCal | Cool. Never seen this done before..... | ||
DanSavage |
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Joined: June 2012 Posts: 2316 Location: Pueblo West, CO | After looking at the inlays with the light side out I decided to flip them all over to see what the fret board would look like with the dark side out. I also sanded the diamonds to fit into the holes and spaced out under the inlays where necessary so they all stand slightly proud of the surface. I was going to buy some ebony veneer, but at $32 a pop, it's a little too rich for my blood. I only needed about 2 square inches. So, I used 1/64" plywood that I dyed black using a sharpie.
Edited by DanSavage 2019-09-21 6:06 PM | ||
moody, p.i. |
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Joined: March 2002 Posts: 15664 Location: SoCal | I would vote for lighter side out. YMMV..... | ||
2wheeldrummer |
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Joined: February 2014 Posts: 704 Location: moline,illinois | Very Very cool work Dan!!! The lighting in the first picture looks brighter so to me in the second pic the inlays don't really show up well,personally I agree with Moody the lighter side really pops but if you want understated then the dark side will accomplish that,Has Dr. Savage gone over to the Dark Side Was the ebony Veneer to fill the holes so the inlays stood higher?? | ||
arumako |
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Joined: October 2012 Posts: 1034 Location: Yokohama, Japan | SWEET! | ||
DarenSavage |
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Joined: December 2016 Posts: 128 | My vote is dark side out. I think it will work very well with the perfling and the Black Pearl theme. Honestly, either way it will be a beautiful guitar. Edited by DarenSavage 2019-09-21 11:51 PM | ||
DanSavage |
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Joined: June 2012 Posts: 2316 Location: Pueblo West, CO | 2wheeldrummer - 2019-09-21 6:13 PM Was the ebony Veneer to fill the holes so the inlays stood higher?? Yes. Some of the original inlays were quite a bit thicker than others, such as the squares at the 5th and 7th frets. All of the round inlays also needed quite a few spacers. | ||
DanSavage |
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Joined: June 2012 Posts: 2316 Location: Pueblo West, CO | DarenSavage - 2019-09-21 9:50 PM My vote is dark side out. I think it will work very well with the perfling and the Black Pearl theme. Honestly, either way it will be a beautiful guitar. I'm also leaning toward the dark side out. Like I say, the light side looks too much like white MOP. It really pops, but doesn't fit with the theme of the guitar. I came to within a hair's breadth of leaving the old abalone inlays in place because I really didn't want to try to route and chisel them out. Now, of course, I'm really happy I removed them. I was relieved to find that the combination of drilling the center, then heating the epoxy made the removal quick and easy. I ordered more inlay pieces than I needed because I figured there would be a fair amount of variation in the coloring. And, I was right. Now I wish I'd ordered even more because some of the pieces had absolutely no iridescence at all on the darker side. I've got the best combination I can make with the inlays I bought, so I'll be gluing the inlays down today. After that, I'll glue the new binding in place and sand/level the fret board, inlays and binding. Then, it'll be time for new frets. Yay! Edited by DanSavage 2019-09-22 11:33 AM | ||
DetlefMichel |
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Joined: May 2011 Posts: 755 Location: Muenster/Germany | Wonderful! I can feel with you, I´ve just added some MOP inlays on the bridge of my Martin D 45...I was always offended that some of the lesser models had this ornaments there and mine did not. Unbelievable that this piece of mistreated wood shall become a shiny guitar neck again. I thought that you might make some 45-style purflings on the top this time, around the neck extension? I love this abalone wars;-) | ||
Jonmark Stone |
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Joined: May 2008 Posts: 1555 Location: Indiana | Love the new inlays. Going to be beautiful and unique instrument. Off topic... but, I just moved into a new property. Out of all my guitars, my Savage parlor is the first only one out of it's case so far. So much fun to play. Carry on. | ||
DanSavage |
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Joined: June 2012 Posts: 2316 Location: Pueblo West, CO | DetlefMichel, I do like how the purfling next to the neck looks. This one won't be getting this treatment. Jonmark, I was wondering how you and your Parlor were getting on together. I love my Parlor, too. | ||
Oldvation Guy |
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Joined: May 2011 Posts: 81 Location: Ozark, Arkansa | Almost sounds like a guy would have to buy two sets and make the best set out of them to get the closest matchup. I have never seen this done. Good to know. I never told you, Dan, but the 1979 1112 Balladeer I got and did the major work on a while back I only took home because of the neck repair you did on Chapin's 1613. I figured, if he can do it, so can I. Neck on the 1112 was almost broken in two just below the headstock. Might have been better to go ahead and break it all the way to fully reglue. But it fit pretty cleanly, and I was able to wick Titebond all the way back into the cracks before I clamped it and set it aside for a few days. I was amazed by how solid it was in the end, and the tone of the guitar is wonderful. Thanks for the encouragement! Looking forward to seeing what your neck/fretboard job ends up looking like for the Pearl. You have never done the inlays before? Edited by Oldvation Guy 2019-09-27 12:11 PM | ||
DanSavage |
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Joined: June 2012 Posts: 2316 Location: Pueblo West, CO | Oldvation Guy - 2019-09-27 10:09 AM Almost sounds like a guy would have to buy two sets and make the best set out of them to get the closest matchup. I have never seen this done. Good to know. I never told you, Dan, but the 1979 1112 Balladeer I got and did the major work on a while back I only took home because of the neck repair you did on Chapin's 1613. I figured, if he can do it, so can I. Neck on the 1112 was almost broken in two just below the headstock. Might have been better to go ahead and break it all the way to fully reglue. But it fit pretty cleanly, and I was able to wick Titebond all the way back into the cracks before I clamped it and set it aside for a few days. I was amazed by how solid it was in the end, and the tone of the guitar is wonderful. Thanks for the encouragement! Looking forward to seeing what your neck/fretboard job ends up looking like for the Pearl. You have never done the inlays before? I did buy enough pieces for two sets. I should have bought three sets. LOL! Good for you on the neck repair. A lot of people are scared to work on their own guitars. I've been working on mine since before I knew better. You're welcome. Nope. Never done any inlay work before. I've read a lot on the internet, but this is the first time I got my hands dirty, so to speak. Probably the last time, too. LOL! | ||
DanSavage |
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Joined: June 2012 Posts: 2316 Location: Pueblo West, CO | I sanded down the inlays. They're not perfect. I made a few mistakes. But, on the whole I'm happy. So, I'm pressing forward.
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DarenSavage |
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Joined: December 2016 Posts: 128 | Wow! I love the inlays. The dark side out with the gold EVO frets will be a smashing combination. | ||
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