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ovie26
Posted 2015-11-05 8:32 PM (#518243 - in reply to #517904)
Subject: Re: 50th anniv guitars


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"You guys can have the new stuff! I will look at what u might b parting with to finance yur purchases. Classic and vintage rules forever!!" I'm with nerdydave on this one.
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alpep
Posted 2015-11-07 3:57 PM (#518325 - in reply to #517904)
Subject: Re: 50th anniv guitars


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still trying to get final specs

this is not an easy task and it should be

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nerdydave
Posted 2015-11-07 6:38 PM (#518329 - in reply to #517904)
Subject: Re: 50th anniv guitars


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Gosh thanks Ovie. No one is ever with me!!
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Nancy
Posted 2015-11-07 9:15 PM (#518336 - in reply to #518329)
Subject: Re: 50th anniv guitars



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nerdydave - 2015-11-07 6:38 PM

Gosh thanks Ovie. No one is ever with me!!


Doesn't mean we don't love you NerdyDave, you just have allot more willpower and restraint than me, and you are one of those rare people who are completely happy with what you have!
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elginacres
Posted 2015-11-08 10:56 AM (#518363 - in reply to #517904)
Subject: Re: 50th anniv guitars


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I am patient AL
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Nancy
Posted 2015-11-08 11:04 AM (#518365 - in reply to #518363)
Subject: Re: 50th anniv guitars



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elginacres - 2015-11-08 10:56 AM

I am patient AL


I am not by nature, but can be for something Special, and this is ***SPECIAL***!
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TAFKAR
Posted 2015-11-08 3:46 PM (#518375 - in reply to #518325)
Subject: Re: 50th anniv guitars



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alpep - 2015-11-08 6:57 AM still trying to get final specs this is not an easy task and it should be

 

Couldn't you have had a really close look during the factory tour? (Carried a small mirror to check bracing patterns, measured bowl depth, got the staff drunk so they'd tell you what was made with what)

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Mike S.
Posted 2015-11-08 5:36 PM (#518386 - in reply to #517904)
Subject: Re: 50th anniv guitars



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"Woulda, shoulda, coulda", etc. I 've only got 3 questions about these guitars, and yes, even alpep doesn't know the answers yet. Hold your horses just a little bit longer, OFC People. Give Al room to breathe. I'm doing my best at being a patient fellow, and I'm also anxious for the new models, too. We shall see what we shall see, won't we? My questions are: 1) What does the " black and gold" look like? 2) Are all 50th Anniversary Models offered in Deep Bowl Contour only? 3) Why are the prices so, so very HIGH? I only ask the last one, because I'm CANADIAN, and the prices may be even higher for me here.
Mike S.
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2wheeldrummer
Posted 2015-11-08 9:37 PM (#518399 - in reply to #518386)
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Michael R. Seguin - 2015-11-08 5:36 PM

3) Why are the prices so, so very HIGH? I only ask the last one, because I'm CANADIAN, and the prices may be even higher for me here.
Mike S.


Does anyone know the price range for the 50th models.I'd love to get one,I've been waiting for specs and to see if I have to sell a kidney to afford one before committing myself.

Edited by 2wheeldrummer 2015-11-08 9:38 PM
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Old Man Arthur
Posted 2015-11-08 10:32 PM (#518400 - in reply to #517904)
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Contact Al... Like it sez at the start of this THREAD

In a discussion on FaceBook the number 3499 was mentioned.
But you would have to ask Al to see if that is correct.
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Thunderbolt
Posted 2015-11-08 10:39 PM (#518401 - in reply to #518399)
Subject: Re: 50th anniv guitars



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2wheeldrummer - 2015-11-08 10:37 PM
Does anyone know the price range for the 50th models.I'd love to get one,I've been waiting for specs and to see if I have to sell a kidney to afford one before committing myself.
i don,t think kidney,s are going for that much...what else you got???
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Standingovation
Posted 2015-11-09 5:48 AM (#518404 - in reply to #518386)
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Michael R. Seguin - 2015-11-08 4:36 PM

Why are the prices so, so very HIGH?


Compared to WHAT? This boutique custom shop (I would not call it a "factory") is going to turn out a very limited number of guitars all built with the finest materials and impeccible workmanship. Yes $3-$5 grand is a lot of money, but I doubt at that they even cover the costs.

As a comparison not too far from the Ovation stable ... the Guild anniversary guitar (built in New Hartford by these same hands) sold for a street price around $5000 and the Takamine anniversary guitar was around $8000. And these were built in factories that were fully churning out a full product line of routine models to "spread" the cost.

Maybe I'm wrong, but I don't see a new $1500 USA made Ovation in the crystal ball
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Nancy
Posted 2015-11-09 7:46 AM (#518407 - in reply to #518399)
Subject: Re: 50th anniv guitars



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2wheeldrummer - 2015-11-08 9:37 PM

Does anyone know the price range for the 50th models.I'd love to get one,I've been waiting for specs and to see if I have to sell a kidney to afford one before committing myself.


Hi 2Wheel!!

Here they are:

http://www.lostartvintage.com/Categorys.aspx?categoryid=8&categoryi...

If you want to get on the list to get one, just email Al, and once he has all the specs, he will let us know what the scoop is!
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Mark in Boise
Posted 2015-11-09 10:01 AM (#518412 - in reply to #517904)
Subject: Re: 50th anniv guitars


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The last limited editions of 50 guitars, the 1617ALEs from 2011, listed for over $3200, so $3499 shouldn't be surprising.

Edited by Mark in Boise 2015-11-09 10:02 AM
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Old Man Arthur
Posted 2015-11-09 1:29 PM (#518422 - in reply to #518404)
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Standingovation - 2015-11-09 3:48 AM

Maybe I'm wrong, but I don't see a new $1500 USA made Ovation in the crystal ball

No more $599 Sweet-T's or K1111RI's?
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Mark in Boise
Posted 2015-11-09 2:25 PM (#518427 - in reply to #517904)
Subject: Re: 50th anniv guitars


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I bet there won't be any more OFC 1s either. The reissues were great, but I don't know whether they were profitable. The #47RI helped Al convince Ovation that the OFC guitar could be built at a reasonable cost. A bunch of the K1111RI's went into the Factory Reconditioned bins and were sold cheap. I have yet to find a flaw in mine, other than in the guy who plays it.
I'll bet that someone decided that the Collector Series were no longer sufficiently popular or profitable, so they tried very limited editions, which still didn't sell out. Instead of increasing the demand, they cut the supply. Standing Ovation could probably explain this in much more colorful marketing terms.
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Standingovation
Posted 2015-11-10 10:14 AM (#518442 - in reply to #517904)
Subject: Re: 50th anniv guitars



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MARKETING = creating a buzz for something that people probably don't need and usually can't afford.

The 50th anniversary guitars certainly fall into this category. But for completely irrational reasons I DO WANT ONE, or TWO, or THREE ...

So at least for the short term I'd have to say that the marketing guys have hit a home run. Still not sure it's a sustainable business and only time will tell.
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alpep
Posted 2015-11-10 10:30 AM (#518443 - in reply to #517904)
Subject: Re: 50th anniv guitars


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I am really not happy with how this process is going. I like to be upfront and honest with customers and give them all the information I can.
I have been waiting for a response to specific specs for over a week.

please note this is NOT the way I do or want to do business
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Cavalier
Posted 2015-11-10 10:41 AM (#518444 - in reply to #517904)
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Perhaps they are second guessing their model choices as feedback and preorders roll in?
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Mr. Ovation
Posted 2015-11-10 11:39 AM (#518446 - in reply to #517904)
Subject: Re: 50th anniv guitars


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I can only imagine what all parties involved must be going through. They need samples for NAMM by the end of January, but they want to build flawless, exceptional guitars, and design/spec/redesign is part of that process, but at the same time, it's hard to sell something without a description, but they want to surprise and wow everyone, but they are so excited they want to tell the world. I'm guessing it's both exciting and frustrating on both sides of the curtain.
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Nancy
Posted 2015-11-10 11:43 AM (#518447 - in reply to #518444)
Subject: Re: 50th anniv guitars



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Since there are people waiting to order pending those specs and information, I'd get my rear in gear and get those specs out to the Dealers so I could get those Orders in!

At least an ETA on when they would have the information, so that folks know what is going on.

Edited by Nancy 2015-11-10 12:12 PM
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Stuart Miller
Posted 2015-11-10 1:30 PM (#518449 - in reply to #518447)
Subject: Re: 50th anniv guitars



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God bless Al! He is putting the information and photo's on his website as quick as he can get it. If you check now you will see he has received some spec sheets for some of the models so kudos to him for doing that.

Like Miles says I am sure there is stuff that is in flux and specs may change but I have to say I am just stoked at having the potential to even place a order deposit for a brand new USA made Ovation product.....super stoked!
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Standingovation
Posted 2015-11-10 9:19 PM (#518461 - in reply to #517904)
Subject: RE: 50th anniv guitars



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Here are the specs from Lost Art Vintage Instruments

http://www.roundbackguitarforum.com/50THAnnSpecs.pdf
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FlySig
Posted 2015-11-10 9:48 PM (#518462 - in reply to #517904)
Subject: Re: 50th anniv guitars



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No deep bowls?
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moody, p.i.
Posted 2015-11-10 11:28 PM (#518464 - in reply to #517904)
Subject: Re: 50th anniv guitars


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mid depth contour! Isn't that interesting.....
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