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Mark in Boise |
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Joined: March 2005 Posts: 12759 Location: Boise, Idaho | People used to say the same thing about me, Jeff. Lately, however, I'm turning into my father and people just wish I'd shut up. What's the saying about if you keep quiet you don't expose your lack of intelligence? | ||
Waskel |
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Joined: February 2005 Posts: 11840 Location: closely held secret | There's a couple... Proverbs says "Even a fool is thought wise if he keeps silent, and discerning if he holds his tongue." Abe Lincoln said "Better to remain silent and be thought a fool than to speak out and remove all doubt." | ||
Jeff W. |
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Joined: November 2003 Posts: 11039 Location: Earth·SolarSystem·LocalInterstellarCloud·Local Bub | I have that rare talent to expose my lack of intelegance both ways. | ||
Waskel |
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Joined: February 2005 Posts: 11840 Location: closely held secret | Sort of "dumbed if I do, and dumbed if I don't". | ||
Mark in Boise |
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Joined: March 2005 Posts: 12759 Location: Boise, Idaho | It was the Abe Lincoln version I was thinking about. I got away with it for several years until people started treating my silence as consent. Now, with SWMBO, I've learned that it doesn't matter whether I remain silent or voice my disagreement, she does what she wants. | ||
cliff |
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Joined: March 2002 Posts: 14842 Location: NJ | ". . Still water...." . . . gets polluted. | ||
G8r |
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Joined: November 2006 Posts: 3969 | Originally posted by Mark in Boise: The really clever ones make you wind up thinking it was your idea, no matter what they do.Now, with SWMBO, I've learned that it doesn't matter whether I remain silent or voice my disagreement, she does what she wants. | ||
dobro |
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Joined: January 2006 Posts: 2120 Location: Chicago | I believe it was Wilde that said "Bigamy is having one spouse too many. Marriage is much the same." :( | ||
cliff |
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Joined: March 2002 Posts: 14842 Location: NJ | ". . why!, THAT'd be bigamy!! . . . that WOULD be big o' me!! . . " - Marx | ||
Mark in Boise |
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Joined: March 2005 Posts: 12759 Location: Boise, Idaho | Cleverness requires too much thinking and takes too long. She just says, "We discussed this." Meaning, she talked about it to someone, not necessarily me, and possibly when I was in an adjacent room watching football or on this board and I didn't voice any objection, or if I voiced an objection, she didn't listen to it. On the other hand, if it really was my idea, she rejects it until some woman suggests the same thing and then it's brilliant. I keep trying to find women that make brilliant suggestions to her at my urging, but I haven't had any success. | ||
fillhixx |
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Joined: November 2005 Posts: 4832 Location: Campbell River, British Columbia | Any that do will immediately be under suspicion of being your mistress....and you KNOW how expensive that can be! (presuming professional exposure here, not personal) | ||
ProfessorBB |
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Joined: January 2006 Posts: 5881 Location: Colorado Rocky Mountains | Just to get this topic back on point, here's a pic of my Taylor. And there's at least a Washburn, two Epiphones, two Gibsons, and two Gretschs also in the pic. I think I even see a guitar. | ||
stephent28 |
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Joined: April 2004 Posts: 13303 Location: Latitude 39.56819, Longitude -105.080066 | Brad....a 45th would look awesome in that picture. Trust me :cool: | ||
BT717 |
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Joined: October 2007 Posts: 2711 Location: Vernon CT | I just got back from a dental appointment that was suppose to last 2 hours, it took 3 1/2 hours!!! Very painful. Kind of like reading Tupperwares responses :D Now I know how and why some of you have so many posts!!LOL!! | ||
ProfessorBB |
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Joined: January 2006 Posts: 5881 Location: Colorado Rocky Mountains | Stephen, this pic is two years old. This corner doesn't look like this anymore. | ||
Slipkid |
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Joined: September 2003 Posts: 9301 Location: south east Michigan | BT... Did you check out the trebuchet videos? Those should be mandatory viewing for every new member. | ||
Waskel |
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Joined: February 2005 Posts: 11840 Location: closely held secret | and the Fishsticks. | ||
cliff |
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Joined: March 2002 Posts: 14842 Location: NJ | Some of those OFC videos should really be put in the "Links" section . . . | ||
BT717 |
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Joined: October 2007 Posts: 2711 Location: Vernon CT | Slipkid, just checked out the videos. You guys are SICK! :D I was suprised to see an "O" as the sacrifice. Whose was it ad where did this take place? | ||
cliff |
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Joined: March 2002 Posts: 14842 Location: NJ | They were non-repairables from the Factory that were headed for the bandsaw/dumpster. That was the parking lot at SkiSundown. | ||
Slipkid |
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Joined: September 2003 Posts: 9301 Location: south east Michigan | It happened at the last OFC factory tour gathering. | ||
Beal |
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Joined: January 2002 Posts: 14127 Location: 6 String Ranch | Nex time, Estebans. | ||
Omaha |
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Joined: November 2005 Posts: 1126 Location: Omaha, NE | I'm coming to this thread late, but since I'm a Taylor owner, here goes: Bob Taylor is an amazing guy. What he did was nothing short of remarkable, and the guitars they are making these days are simply incredible. The level of fit and finish on them is just hard to believe. They are on top of the world now, but you need to remember that he started making guitars not long after Charlie Kaman...but CK was already a successful businessman with a ton of resources at his disposal. BT was just a kid in San Diego who wanted to make guitars. At the moment, I own two acoustic guitars: My Ovation Koala and a 30th anniversary Taylor 714ce. Overall, I prefer the Ovation. Actually, its not even a close call. I hardly ever pull the Taylor out of its case anymore and only keep it around because I don't want to be without a backup guitar. I am thinking about trading it in on another Ovation...I've always wanted a Custom Legend. There are some amazingly positive things about the Taylor company. For example, David Hosler (one of Taylor's senior product development guys) posted some info about their new solid bodies over on the AG forum a while back. I cut into him pretty good, seeing as how at the moment I was frustrated because my 714 was back in the shop, having left me stranded for the second time showing up DOA at a gig. He contacted me off line, had me send in the guitar, and gave me an upgrade to their new 9v electronics system at no charge. They even dressed the frets and fixed the binding where I had dropped the guitar. I was impressed. Still am. Those guys are amazing. While I hate to be critical, here is a critical thought: The wood-sniffers over on the Taylor forum are the pickiest bunch of whiners you will ever encounter. I recall one thread where they were all horrified that their guitars tended to rest toward the "hinge side" of their cases. Never mind that that is how gravity works, they were convinced that this was some sort of manufacturing defect. It was just amazing reading them go on and on about it. Something about the Taylor guitar seems to attract these people...they seem to think of their guitars more as art objects than as musical instruments. In contrast, Ovation owners seem to have a more utilitarian view of their guitars. That's where I am anyway. Guitars are just firewood to me. They don't have "soul". They are there to help me do a job. That's all. Bla bla bla...I hate long posts. I never read them. Than's for reading mine. | ||
Omaha |
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Joined: November 2005 Posts: 1126 Location: Omaha, NE | Originally posted by Mauvais Beal: Are you going to join the Esteban World Tour?Nex time, Estebans. | ||
Arc Angel |
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Joined: January 2008 Posts: 49 Location: Canada | This is a great forum. Personally, I've been surprised at the antipathy and outright scorn/hatred for Ovations evidenced in some other forums. | ||
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