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Location: Seoul, Korea | Paul: One thing OFC members have in common is the love of their guitars, as I have gotten to know. The knowledge of guitars is amazing, especially on O's and A's. I don't believe members are expressing any professional insight but more of a personal wish to keep their way of life. After all, this forum is not a business forum and OFC members know it. Let them express their views openly and freely as long as they are within the guidelines of this forum. ;) |
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Location: Nashville TN. | Originally posted by Capo Guy:
Originally posted by Slipkid:
Interesting.
Now we can tour the Guild stuff also.
A little wood sniffin' never hurt nobody. When I was in High School I had a Guild hollow bodied electric guitar. One of those I should have kept.
they are sweet guitars.
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Location: Nashville TN. | Originally posted by Mauvais Beal:
Yes, it sucks for the people out there, but we knew it was going to suck for somebody. Being an a$$hole it's always better if it sucks for people you don't know than for ones you do. There words of wisdom...
I'm Happy New Hartford Staying
I'm Happy Guild coming back to New England.
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Location: SoCal | Paul, This thread does not have that "doom and gloom" theme and I didn't notice any "insider word" stuff. Some people shared their "hopes"... it's an internet message board. You should have blasted the "doom-n-gloomers" in the other threads. |
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Location: Nashville TN. | Originally posted by alpep:
sorry guys I was sick yesterday. food poisoning. 102 fever aches chills etc. ate some bad shrimp on wed
hope your feeling better Al |
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Location: Scotland | Yes there was "doom and Gloom" such as the totally speculative and unfounded...
"I just hope they can keep the Ovation/Adamas repair and construction operation separate from the others. I've had some bad experiences with mergers, where they decide to restructure everything to operate the same way. It's all going to come down to who they put in charge."
Thanks Bvince, now lets have your detailed music industry resume.... I'm sorry, I'm not picking on you, but this is just not constructive in difficult and changing times.
Ok, the "insider word" was from other threads, but hell, we're better than other internet message boards, we all know that. My point was that ultimately we have no control over any of this, so why bother discussing it, other than to stir the crap. Remember there are another 70 peoples livliehoods at stake now....how would you like your future being discussed by a bunch of anonymous guitar geeks? |
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Location: Parrish, FL | As someone currently caught up in the closing and consolidation within a company (Non related to Kaman)I have to agree with Paul. In our case (my wife is part of it) there are over 100 people looking for a different place to earn their livelihood. These types of decisions have consequences far beyond anything we can speculate on or hope will not change.
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Location: Seoul, Korea | It is unfortunately the cold reality of the capitalistic society where U.S. is the worst culprit and where dollars & sense controls versus people's heart. This is also why it is refreshing to be on this board where so-called guitar geeks daily exudes the warmth towards each other and to their guitars. Would you rather listen to an investment banker from Goldman Sachs who decided to leave his firm because his bonus was way too low. He ONLY earned US$50+ million last year; he wanted triple of that. BTW, I have nothing against i-bankers. |
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Location: SoCal | Hey STK.... Bite me. You really don't want to have this discussion.
How's that for warmth? |
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Location: Capital District, NY, USA Minor Outlying Islands | Well, I have something against i-bankers ... |
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Location: SoCal | Moody must like you STK. He only asks his friends to bite him.
but "capitalistic society" falls into the area of politics, which we avoid |
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Location: SoCal | No, I don't terribly like him. In 6 years on this board I've never made a judgment call regarding situations in other countries, and I don't appreciate people who do. When STK comes here, becomes a citizen, and starts voting, then I might, just might, not get pissed at his being critical of my country.
Until then, bite me...... |
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| Test Test...just checking to see if I can still post. so far so good.
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Location: GATLINBURG TENNESSEE :) | Thanks Bvince, now lets have your detailed music industry resume.... I'm sorry, I'm not picking on you, but this is just not constructive in difficult and changing times. ...
Remember there are another 70 peoples livliehoods at stake now....how would you like your future being discussed by a bunch of anonymous guitar geeks? So what does being constructive have to do with having a right to voice my personal opinion on this board, and what does having a "detailed music industry resume" have to do with this discussion?? First of all, I HAVE been on the receiving end of a corporate takeover and eventual "downsizing", and was one of those who lost their jobs.(in the middle of winter) I had a family of six and a house mortgage at the time. So I am very sympathetic with the feelings and concerns of those people, but if I were once again in that situation I wouldn't really give a damn about what someone was writing about on a guitar-related board. The last time I read the purpose of this board, I believe it had to do with the appreciation of Ovation guitars. My stated concern had to do with the continuing quality of Kaman instruments and their level of service. As far as your personal attack on me (and that is exactly what it was, despite the statement that you were not "picking on me") ... I have greatly appreciated the many informative and knowledgeable comments you have posted in the past, but in this case I am quite dissappointed in the level of arrogance you have chosen to display. You really need to get off your high horse and give God his seat back. |
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Location: Seoul, Korea | Bite or no bite, I am sorry if I have offended anyone, which was not my intention. Try to be more careful with loaded commentary and stick to guitars. |
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Location: Seoul, Korea | Bite or no bite, I am sorry if I have offended anyone, which was not my intention. Try to be more careful with loaded commentary and stick to guitars. |
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Location: Blue Ridge Mountains | Point taken Paul! And I am guilty of doing some of that (although it was well meant, I did not think some things thru). Then, this past week, I went through the yearly flogging known as a Pastor Parish Relations (PPR)Committee meeting to discuss whether or not to continue me in my current position or move another in (notice: I may be able to eat solid food in a couple of days...after the bile goes away, lol). Well, after listening to the petty and ridicules’ (you’d have to hear it to believe it), I'm safe for another year...but it does make one think...
Again, well said Paul! Like Al said everybody, Think! |
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Location: GATLINBURG TENNESSEE :) | And if you're tired of reading comments about this subject all you need to do is NOT click on the thread. I believe this is still a free country.
Well I'd like to stay for more of this fun, but I'm growing a bit weary and need to get some sleep. |
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Location: SoCal | Moody, I was just trying to defuse the situation and avoid an international incident. |
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Location: Brisbane Australia | On a lighter note guys(and gals).
Does this mean that my DeArmond(by Guild)T400 is now officially part of "The Family"?
;) AJ |
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Location: SoCal | If we have to ;)
As a consolation, I like the Ashbory Bass. |
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Location: Nashville TN. | Originally posted by AussieJames:
On a lighter note guys(and gals).
Does this mean that my DeArmond(by Guild)T400 is now officially part of "The Family"?
;) AJ At least Kin |
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Location: Nashville TN. | Originally posted by MusicMishka:
Point taken Paul! And I am guilty of doing some of that (although it was well meant, I did not think some things thru). Then, this past week, I went through the yearly flogging known as a Pastor Parish Relations (PPR)Committee meeting to discuss whether or not to continue me in my current position or move another in (notice: I may be able to eat solid food in a couple of days...after the bile goes away, lol). Well, after listening to the petty and ridicules’ (you’d have to hear it to believe it), I'm safe for another year...but it does make one think...
Again, well said Paul! Like Al said everybody, Think! Flogging??
So you know the guy that makes my custom guitar straps and holsters?? |
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Location: Scotland | Vince, I used your post as an example to illustrate a point, it was by no means a "personal attack" on you.
This is not "down-sizing" as you said, for the folks in New Hartford, it's expansion. If I were to make a similar speculation to yours it might be that the Guild and Tacoma brands will benefit greatly from being allied to the best customer service department in the industry, rather than Ovation's customer service going to hell in a hand-basket.
If suggesting that people with no real insight (and that's damn near every one of us) refrain from negative speculation based on a public domain press-release makes me "arrogant" then so be it. |
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Location: 6 String Ranch | So, how many people in the music industry does it take to piss on Henry? |
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guild moves to new hartford
