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Englishplayer
Posted 2013-03-22 9:44 AM (#468697 - in reply to #461931)
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1. Picking up a 12 string in a guitar store, and, of course, it's not in tune.

2. Someone else said this.... People insisting that you are not playing a song correctly unless the song is played EXACTLY the way it was played on the recording. Funny thing is I'll go to see a performer play his/her song and often it is not played by the actual performer the way it was recorded. Or else, I gave the credit to the performer, and it's actually the anonymous background guitarist playing the complicated part.
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Darkbar
Posted 2013-03-22 10:20 AM (#468700 - in reply to #461931)
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Pet Peeve # 187: I went to a free class at Guitar Center for "Introduction to Home Recording". The guy talked like a computer programmer talking to a class of other computer programmers. Within 2 minutes I had no idea what he was talking about, but I politely sat there for 40 minutes. It brought back horrible memories of calculus class at college....
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sonicpictures
Posted 2013-03-22 2:05 PM (#468708 - in reply to #461931)
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Hey Bob... it sucks that the guy at GC couldn't explain it better. I'm sure he was just one of the audio salespeople with a recording background. Doesn't mean he's ever taught a lesson in his life. GC is notorious for putting their salespeople on the spot with stuff like that.

That being said, in order to make a record these days yourself (unless you have a very large budget to track to tape), you really need to know the ins and outs of the software, and it can be damn challenging. It took me 13 months of 75 hour weeks learning Pro Tools in college, and I'm still learning new things everyday.
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AstroDan
Posted 2013-03-22 2:25 PM (#468711 - in reply to #461931)
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Pet peeve
I hate it when someone plays my guitar better than I do!
I hate that it takes more room for a case than for the guitar that came in it.
I hate that I'm still ham-handed after 32+ years. (ties in to point one)
I hate when my voice is good, I can't play a lick and vice-versa.
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AdamasW597
Posted 2013-03-23 11:04 AM (#468757 - in reply to #461931)
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I've had time to think since my original post and my number 1 pet peeve is when one of these new artists (country, red dirt, etc) takes a perfectly good guitar and "ages it". He/she scratches the heck out of it and cuts a hole or two in the top. The guitar can't be more than a couple of years old. "Ooh you're making me very angry!"-Marvin the Martian
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dwg preacher
Posted 2013-03-23 8:50 PM (#468774 - in reply to #461931)
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Now that you mention it, this whole "road worn" trend kind of pisses me off. Dude, buy a guitar and play it for 10000 hours and it will look just like that one your favorite star plays, who actually did. You can't buy mojo.

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Little Ugly
Posted 2013-03-24 9:58 PM (#468834 - in reply to #461931)
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-Every hipster/folk/acoustic band that plays too loudly in every bar on the weekends (2 acoustic guitars, amplified too much, and a mandolin player).
-The fact that these hipster/folk/acoustic bands have much more of a "country" sound than today's pop country music
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Captain Lovehandles
Posted 2013-03-25 7:57 AM (#468844 - in reply to #461931)
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I'm not sure I have one, except that the (worship) band I play in, I make sure I have all my music in order and practiced, and I'm always on time and ready to start. The leader told me she had never worked with a guitar player who was on time and ready. Some of the other guys are young, but it's no excuse. We had a fill-in bassist who showed up assuming there would be a bass there to play. There wasn't and we had to scramble. A couple of weeks later, a fill-in guitarist who assumed there would be an amp to use. He had to run home and get his amp. Maybe I'm just old, but I lose patience with that. OK, maybe I do have one after all.
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muzza
Posted 2013-03-25 9:02 AM (#468846 - in reply to #461931)
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...and where have YOU been young man?
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Captain Lovehandles
Posted 2013-03-25 12:22 PM (#468851 - in reply to #461931)
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I check in. These days it seems most of the threads call for real information instead of wisecracks, so I have less to contribute.
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Darkbar
Posted 2013-03-25 2:02 PM (#468853 - in reply to #461931)
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Hasn't stopped me (unfortunately...)
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Slipkid
Posted 2013-03-25 2:21 PM (#468855 - in reply to #461931)
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This crowd used to be able to handle both.
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SOBeach
Posted 2013-03-25 2:26 PM (#468856 - in reply to #461931)
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gee, I thought wisecracks were why most of us check in! 

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Darkbar
Posted 2013-03-25 4:26 PM (#468857 - in reply to #461931)
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No, the new rule is one wisecrack per 215 posts.
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standing
Posted 2013-03-25 6:46 PM (#468860 - in reply to #468857)
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darkbarguitar - 2013-03-25 4:26 PM

No, the new rule is one wisecrack per 215 posts.


Then you owe us 734,020 serious posts.

(Edited for mathematical accuracy.)


Edited by standing 2013-03-25 7:00 PM
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Darkbar
Posted 2013-03-25 7:34 PM (#468863 - in reply to #468860)
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standing - 2013-03-25 7:46 PM
(Edited for mathematical accuracy.)

Yeah, that's better...
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dobro
Posted 2013-03-25 8:39 PM (#468866 - in reply to #461931)
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Musicians who are mean-spirted toward other musicians. You know, the "zero-sum game" types who regard every "win" by another guy as their loss and every setback for someone else as a point in their favor.....
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DaveKell
Posted 2013-03-26 6:13 AM (#468874 - in reply to #461931)
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I still remember a youth pastor at the church I used to attend. In fact, he recently came back to Texas from Oklahoma to do my daughter' wedding service. I tried playing guitar with him a few times but he's a very competitive guitar player who jumps in on what you're playing trying to rip through mediocre solos and always pauses to look up at you to gauge your response to his prolific playing (in his mind anyway). I hate competitive players who always HAVE to grab the limelight. He argues HE is the one who taught our pastor's teen son to play guitar, but the kid told me he spent all his time listening to the guy show off and credits me with having taught him. He now makes a living touring as guitarist for a succession of top Christian contemporary artists. Playing guitar is NOT a competition.
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AdamasW597
Posted 2013-03-26 8:54 AM (#468878 - in reply to #461931)
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I loved it when we got new P&W leaders. She wrote the charts wrong. Ab instead of G#. Db instead of C# and Gb for F# for the key of A. Everything was in flats. I explained music to her and how it actually worked and she retorted, "That's not how we did it in my other church." I promptly took a pencil and rewrote all the flat chords on my sheet music into sharp chords. Then I would sign my name to them so I would get a correct chart when the song was handed out. She got very angry. She showed a woman, who has played piano for 50 year or more, how to play a chord by taking the piano players hand and putting it on the keys in the chord position. The woman knew what the chord was and how to play it. The look on her face was priceless. Sometimes when you play in church, you never get a real critique. No matter how badly you play you're always a blessing and you played wonderful. A drunk will tell you "you suck" with no provocation. It did make me a better player playing in clubs. I just wish there were an easy way to explain to people like those P&W leaders that they might need a little more work before actually having a leadership position. They were kin to the Pastor. For what it's worth, all the good musicians quit and we all go to another church. If the church part bothers you insert a bar or club.

Edited by AdamasW597 2013-03-26 8:59 AM
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rick endres
Posted 2013-03-26 9:41 AM (#468881 - in reply to #461972)
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darkbarguitar - 2012-11-17 1:50 PM
The guy that plugs in at GC, then plays the intro to Stairway to Heaven poorly and loudly...over and over.


...or "Smoke On the Water." Usually a pimply faced 15 year old, which mystifies me. That's their grandfather's music. I guess it's a testimony to the staying power of the music. "Stairway..." and "Smoke On the Water" are both great tunes, but they've been (ya think?) a little overplayed and overexposed.

Worse still - TWO fifteen year olds at GC playing "Smoke on the Water" AND "Stairway." At the same time. At maximum volume.

We have a couple of hot college age babes working at our GC. One of them is a dreamy, perfect blonde who looks like a homecoming queen. The other one is sort of a Goth babe - spiky, multicolored hair, piercings and tattoos. Hot, but in a skanky way. Kinda like the girl on NCIS. They're usually at the front desk when you come in.

My pet peeve? Nothing with them. It's the old guys with long, receding white hair tied in a pony tail who still think they're babe magnets and come on to the girls. It's actually kind of sad...

Edited by rick endres 2013-03-26 9:43 AM
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rick endres
Posted 2013-03-26 10:12 AM (#468882 - in reply to #468697)
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Englishplayer - 2013-03-22 9:44 AM
Someone else said this.... People insisting that you are not playing a song correctly unless the song is played EXACTLY the way it was played on the recording. Funny thing is I'll go to see a performer play his/her song and often it is not played by the actual performer the way it was recorded. Or else, I gave the credit to the performer, and it's actually the anonymous background guitarist playing the complicated part.


Another good one.

I think the key is learning to play the "signature" licks. For example - James Taylor's "Fire & Rain," which is one of my favorite (and most requested ) covers. I make sure that I nail that intro slide lick (a signature lick if there ever was one), and the "A" hammer-ons at the end of each line. As for the rest - I just make sure I play the chords as close to possible as written, and attempt to match the picking pattern. If a chord is too much of a stretch for my slightly arthritic fingers, I either play part of it or find an easier substitution. "Hotel California" - I play the intro as close as I can; the rest is "chick, chick-a-chick" chords.

Note for note can get boring. Artists sometimes change things up just to keep it interesting for them. Think about it: some guys like JT have been doing this for 40+ years. They need to keep it fresh for themselves.

Edited by rick endres 2013-03-26 10:14 AM
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Captain Lovehandles
Posted 2013-03-26 11:58 AM (#468885 - in reply to #461931)
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Our band is nothing but a great time. If anything I over prepare because I don't want to be the one who holds the rest back. I also think I'm the guitar beater that you all despise.
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dwg preacher
Posted 2013-03-26 12:52 PM (#468886 - in reply to #468878)
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mymartind35 - . Sometimes when you play in church, you never get a real critique. No matter how badly you play you're always a blessing and you played wonderful. A drunk will tell you "you suck" with no provocation. It did make me a better player playing in clubs.

And a great big, huge +1 to that!  Seems that people in church are overly fixated on "being nice," often at the expense of honesty, and often at the expense of excellence.  Yes, grandma, we all appreciate your desire to serve the congregation, but there's just no place for your quarter-note-chord-pounding, 1953-hymn-singing style in "At Your Name!"

I could preach on that, but I'll stop there.

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Darkbar
Posted 2013-03-26 1:10 PM (#468887 - in reply to #468881)
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rick endres - 2013-03-26 10:41 AM
It's the old guys with long, receding white hair tied in a pony tail who still think they're babe magnets and come on to the girls. It's actually kind of sad...

Hey! Waskel resents that remark.
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AdamasW597
Posted 2013-03-27 8:49 AM (#468912 - in reply to #468886)
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dwg preacher - 2013-03-26 12:52 PM

mymartind35 - . Sometimes when you play in church, you never get a real critique. No matter how badly you play you're always a blessing and you played wonderful. A drunk will tell you "you suck" with no provocation. It did make me a better player playing in clubs.

And a great big, huge +1 to that!  Seems that people in church are overly fixated on "being nice," often at the expense of honesty, and often at the expense of excellence.  Yes, grandma, we all appreciate your desire to serve the congregation, but there's just no place for your quarter-note-chord-pounding, 1953-hymn-singing style in "At Your Name!"

I could preach on that, but I'll stop there.



Thanks preacher. I didn't want it to seem I was picking on someone. You understood my premise. We don't all do things the same way. But there is a standard that I try to keep. I've found that lacking in other places too.
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