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Location: Keepin' It Weird in Portland, OR | Originally posted by dark bar:
Originally posted by nikon4004:
What do Yoko Ono and Ethiopians have in common?
Neither would give OMA any change
(Poor People will always give you change. It is rich people who are cheap) |
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You need a shirt more than they need a meal? |
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Location: NJ | Originally posted by Old Man Arthur:
Originally posted by dark bar:
Originally posted by nikon4004:
What do Yoko Ono and Ethiopians have in common?
Neither would give OMA any change
(Poor People will always give you change. It is rich people who are cheap)
Perhaps if you are pestering people on Bleeker especially John Lennon and he gave you a dollar then he would have a trial of people wanting a dollar from John Lennon. I think it was John's internal survival skills that made him possible to live in NYC and not get pestered and what ultimately did him in at the end.
I have several customers that are very wealthy and I treat them the same way I would anyone else with courtesy and respect. Nothing special and they don't demand any more. I don't charge more because they can afford it and I don't make a big deal out of anything.
At one point in my life I was ill my wife on her death's bed in the hspt and other stuff was piling up. I get a call from one of these guys who was just checking in and well I spilled my guts, I needed someone to talk to and he was the one. A few days later he called me back to see how things were and offered to help me out. He wanted to know if he could pay my mortgage. Not the payment the ENTIRE MORTGAGE. I was floored and declined but thanked him and assured him that if I needed some help I would indeed call him.
Well I never did, I just got up earlier in the day and stayed up later worked harder, sold some stuff that I should have kept for less than it was worth and worked through the hard times.
Ultimately, you are responsible for yourself no one else. Unfortunately there will always be an element of society that for whatever reason is indigent either by legitimate or illegitimate means but anyone with a sense of pride takes care of their self and their family. |
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Location: Flahdaw | Well, if poor people are more generous, thank god for the economic downturn....all the charities out there must be having a field day lately with donations at sky high levels. |
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Location: Keepin' It Weird in Portland, OR | Thank You Al...
But I made one statement about John not giving me change.
And BTW-- The first time we met John, I didn't know he was John Lennon.
He just looked like a normal person, no entourage, no press.
Mr. Lennon used to intentionally stop to talk to us cuz we didn't treat him like anything special.
We shared our beer with him. (You could get a 12-pack for about $3 back then)
I never asked him for an autograph, we mostly talked about ourselves cuz he was interested.
He did pay for our beer once at the local Mom & Pop store down the street.
But he still wouldn't give us any change.
He said "My wife doesn't let me carry money. All I got is Plastic!"
Also... Years of experience has taught me Rich People Are Cheap.
Poor People will give you the last pennies in their pocket cuz they have "been there".
I know that I will.
Rich people will tell you to get a Job.
Rich people were cheap in the Past.(Mark 12:41-44)
Rich people will be cheap in the Future.(Check-out the current financial crisis)
Rich people look at High Unemployment as an opportunity to lower wages.
Rich people are Jealous that Poor People might get surplus food for free.
It is the nature of the Beast.
The more someone has, the cheaper they get! |
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Location: Phoenix AZ | Originally posted by Old Man Arthur:
Rich people are Jealous that Poor People might get surplus food for free. Yes, there's an entire segment of society jealous over government cheese. |
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Location: NJ | arthur
your story has now morphed 3 times.
although I will never be rich I do not share your thoughts on "the rich" I think they are generalizations and oversimplifications.
can you say the same about the poor?
the more poor someone is the more they expect someone else to bail them out?
the poor will tell you they are starving "artists" and should not have to work.
the poor will tell you it is a sin to make a living.
the poor look at the high unemployment as an excuse to do nothing.
The poor are jealous that they can't afford fine dining?
This is sarcasm but damn why throw stones at either side?
At one particularly low point in my life, I had a co worker who's husband was very well to do (she really did not need the work but loved teaching) put a 100 dollar bill in a christmas card with the instructions to take my wife out to dinner buy her something she wants and have a good time on her. I tried to give it back to her but she insisted. My wife and I had a really good dinner on my friend and our mind was taken away from our troubles.
I think when charity comes when least expected it is the most valuable. Kinda nice to have people thinking about you and caring. |
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Location: Newington, CT | Quick! Gotta sneak this in before the thread gets closed down! (I got a nickel says it'll close before the day is over)
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Boy! THIS thread sure took a turn for the irrelevant! |
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Location: Tennessee | I have no problem with cheese. It's all the pork I don't like.
I can't stop and give change to every panhandler I come across. I most times stop and consider donating to a street performer if they are sincere and giving it serious effort.
But I ALWAYS stop and buy a glass of lemonade or kool-aid, or art, or gummy bears or whatever it is that some young kid has set up a curbside stand to try and make a little money. Encourage entrepreneurship.
Imagine no possessions. There's two sides to that one. |
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Location: NJ | I take one statement back.
I am rich.
I have love and family, a wife, friends, good food and drink, a home, I live in a beautiful world with many sites and many wonderous creatures, etc etc etc |
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Location: closely held secret | People who won't work make welfare necessary.
People who will work make welfare possible. |
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Location: Latitude 39.56819, Longitude -105.080066 | Originally posted by Old Man Arthur:
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Also... Years of experience has taught me Rich People Are Cheap.
Poor People will give you the last pennies in their pocket cuz they have "been there".
I know that I will.
Rich people will tell you to get a Job.
Rich people were cheap in the Past.(Mark 12:41-44)
Rich people will be cheap in the Future.(Check-out the current financial crisis)
Rich people look at High Unemployment as an opportunity to lower wages.
Rich people are Jealous that Poor People might get surplus food for free.
It is the nature of the Beast.
The more someone has, the cheaper they get! OMA, where do you get this tripe????
I was monetarily rich once but due to unforseen medical issues with both my daughter and wife (at separate times) that well exceeded my health insurance policy limits, I am now borderline poor.
I was definitely more generous when I had the means to be. I frequently donated both time and money to various organizations. Now I have no discretionary funds to give to others....I have to take care of my own.
Your generalizations about the rich are just as bogus as the generalizations about the poor.
If you are out of work, you are a lazy no good for nothing bum that is just living off the government while waiting for your next handout or welfare check.
Sound familiar?
People are people... whether rich or poor most of them would act and be the exact same way whether they had money or not. |
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Location: south east Michigan | Now I'm startin' to really like this thread. |
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Location: Keepin' It Weird in Portland, OR | So? Would John Lennon Approve of the Direction of This Thread?
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Location: closely held secret | Originally posted by Old Man Arthur:
So? Would John Lennon Approve of the Direction of This Thread?
btw, Lennon wasn't exactly "poor" when he was killed... |
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Location: Keepin' It Weird in Portland, OR | Originally posted by Waskel:
Originally posted by Old Man Arthur:
So? Would John Lennon Approve of the Direction of This Thread?
btw, Lennon wasn't exactly "poor" when he was killed...
I said that John Lennon wouldn't give me any change! :eek: :p |
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Location: Ohio | When did this thread get political???
Lets get back to music guys and gals!!!!!!!!!!!
If I want political, I'll call Rush Limbaugh!!! |
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Location: closely held secret | Originally posted by Old Man Arthur:
Yeah... That's what started this whole thing.
I said that John Lennon wouldn't give me any change! So... why should he have? And did that make him selfish and greedy? Maybe he was jealous of you for getting surplus food for free?
Personally, I resent your playbook generalizations concerning people who happen to have more money than you. I was poor, when I was young. Then I worked. My ass off. Now I enjoy the fruits of that labor, and I'm supposed to feel guilty about it? |
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Location: Connersville, Indiana | This is over the top I just don't know what to say. Being in law enforcement for years I have seen just about everything to make you smile or a billy goat sick. By now most people know I am disabled on this thread. Karen and I bought our house through a mortgage company that was stealing the money. We were given an eviction notice because our house was going to sheriff's sale, at no fault of ours. I receive limited income, Karen's 18 year job at ford moved to Mexico. She is getting gov't assistance to pay for nursing school, which she graduates in May. She is also working full time at the hospital. My Neighbor, a Doctor, thought so much about us that he bought the house at the Sheriff's sale and is now selling it to us on contract until our money gets more flexible. Just like the only reason I was able to buy a preacher and viper was because Iffy sold it to me on the Iffy pay as you may plan. So The lesson learned is:
There are two types of people in the world and only two. Good people and bad people. And that's it. It does not matter if you have money or not, you are either a bad person or a good person. |
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