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Standingovation
Posted 2005-11-26 5:09 PM (#332717 - in reply to #332667)
Subject: Re: 1651-7 john lennon model



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Originally posted by Dude:
have you ever heard about an Elite or Legend with and Adamas deep bowl ?
I read somewhere here that a few of the early 1537's had adamas mounting ring.
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Tony Calman
Posted 2005-11-29 11:24 PM (#332718 - in reply to #332667)
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The pain...UPS didn't deliver until 8:25pm, was wondering if it would come in.

# 596187

Wonderful guitar...Stonebobbo, you are right, lighter than I expected. Another great example of Ovation's quality. Great voice.

Thanks Al :D
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stonebobbo
Posted 2005-11-30 1:28 AM (#332719 - in reply to #332667)
Subject: Re: 1651-7 john lennon model



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Oh, man. I can't wait. Monday for me sez UPS. lady stonebobbo may need to let me have just a small peek and quick noodle before she packs it away under the tree. Post more details when you can, Tony.
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Tony Calman
Posted 2005-11-30 1:55 AM (#332720 - in reply to #332667)
Subject: Re: 1651-7 john lennon model



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only thing that it is missing is the abalone :p

it is an exquisite instrument...great neck, workmanship, voice.

can only appreciate it by playing it...

tell her you need at least two hours.
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moody, p.i.
Posted 2005-11-30 9:38 AM (#332721 - in reply to #332667)
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What p/u and preamp did Ovation put in it?
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Tony Calman
Posted 2005-11-30 9:51 AM (#332722 - in reply to #332667)
Subject: Re: 1651-7 john lennon model



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stacked vol/tone, stereo
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moody, p.i.
Posted 2005-11-30 10:14 AM (#332723 - in reply to #332667)
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shoulder or waist?
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cliff
Posted 2005-11-30 10:36 AM (#332724 - in reply to #332667)
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Tony Calman
Posted 2005-12-07 12:01 AM (#332725 - in reply to #332667)
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Anyone else get their guitar yet?

This is a different bowl...feels very thin even compared with the 1719-30CM (30th Anniv Custom Legend).

??
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Standingovation
Posted 2005-12-07 1:41 AM (#332726 - in reply to #332667)
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Mine was delivered yesterday, but I'm stuck out of the country on business until Saturday. Just one more reason that I can't wait to get home. Dave
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stonebobbo
Posted 2005-12-07 8:05 AM (#332727 - in reply to #332667)
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Got mine and lady stonebobbo was kind enough to let me do an "arrival inspection" before it was put away for Christmas. Bowl does feel thin, and the finish on the bowl is different than any of my other O's ... seems thinner and somehow smoother and less "pebbley" but it's hard to really describe it given I only had a few minutes with it. The s/n seems to be printed on the headstock and not embossed?? Did you also notice the truss rod adjustment hole on the bracing inside the soundhole ... although I think the truss rod adjustment is at the headstock. The top is absolutely gorgeous in nutmeg. Schaller tuners, not Pings! You're right Tony, nice voice!

I'm stoked ... the only downside is I have 18 days to wait until I can really put it through it's paces. :(
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moody, p.i.
Posted 2005-12-07 8:53 AM (#332728 - in reply to #332667)
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Go drive your new car.......
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Standingovation
Posted 2005-12-07 10:55 AM (#332729 - in reply to #332667)
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Originally posted by stonebobbo:
Did you also notice the truss rod adjustment hole on the bracing inside the soundhole ... although I think the truss rod adjustment is at the headstock.
I think it has the new dual action TR
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moody, p.i.
Posted 2005-12-07 11:03 AM (#332730 - in reply to #332667)
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Bob, how's the weight of the JL compared to the weight of your 1537?
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stonebobbo
Posted 2005-12-07 10:03 PM (#332731 - in reply to #332667)
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MUCH lighter, Paul.

I'm just an idiot who buys guitars instead of living ( ;) ), but I thought dual action just meant that it adjusted two directions, not that it adjusted from both ends. :confused: Maybe a primer on how dual action truss rods work is in order.
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BruDeV
Posted 2005-12-07 11:15 PM (#332732 - in reply to #332667)
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http://www.stewmac.com/shop/Truss_rods/Adjustable_truss_rods/2/Hot_...
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stonebobbo
Posted 2005-12-08 2:23 AM (#332733 - in reply to #332667)
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Well, I'm still stumped. Thanks BruDev for the link but the picture didn't show me enough to help me understand. I did a pretty extensive web search and got a lot of info about how a dual action truss rod adjusts both directions, but I did not find anything at all which shows or even alludes to adjustment nuts at both ends. I went to the Ovation site and checked out their pictures of the LX series (with the dual acting truss rod) ... they only had a picture of an Elite style neck but there was no adjustment nut at the body side of the neck, only at the headstock. Dumb and getting dumber. :o
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Standingovation
Posted 2005-12-08 2:56 AM (#332734 - in reply to #332667)
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I think the hole inside might be the access port for the self lubricating fingerboard. Dave
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cliff
Posted 2005-12-08 8:45 AM (#332735 - in reply to #332667)
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It's for the airbag.
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BruDeV
Posted 2005-12-08 3:58 PM (#332736 - in reply to #332667)
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http://www.stewmac.com/freeinfo/I-0975.html

If you'll notice in one of the photos, both of the rods are threaded. It's possible to adjust the relief from both ends of the rod but, the main purpose is to change the length of the adjustment area to facilitate use with different scale lengths.
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Mark in Boise
Posted 2005-12-08 5:52 PM (#332737 - in reply to #332667)
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Stoney, just send it to me and I'll mess with it. I'll guarantee I can figure out how anything works after I take it apart. I can't guarantee I can put it back together.
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Tony Calman
Posted 2005-12-08 6:10 PM (#332738 - in reply to #332667)
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Well, there is a hole in the horizontal bracing. Same hole as in the 30th Anniv CL. Has to be one long wrench to adjust.

Have never seen Ovation's adjustment instructions for the dual rod. As I had the trc off of it, definitely ability to adjust at the headstock.
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stonebobbo
Posted 2005-12-08 8:01 PM (#332739 - in reply to #332667)
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What a nightmare it would be to have to adjust a truss rod using two different points. Brings back bad memories of trying to synchronize dual Webers on my old 356. To get it right required either a really good mechanic or hours of aborted attempts, backfires, and cussing.

MIB ... I'll send it to you as long as Al assures me the results of your work will be covered by the factory Warranty. :-) P.S. Did you see the story on the Cayman in Road & Track this month?
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Mark in Boise
Posted 2005-12-08 9:41 PM (#332740 - in reply to #332667)
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Didn't see the R&T story, but saw a Cayman. They have one at the new local dealer. Looks better than the pictures. Fortunately, it's basalt black and my wife doesn't like black. I really like the new Boxster. Only 7 more years till the kids are out of college.
I get the dual carb analogy. Put them on a VW van and it only ran right for a couple hours after that.
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Tony Calman
Posted 2005-12-08 11:37 PM (#332741 - in reply to #332667)
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Jan '06 Road & Track got my motor running...2007 Ford Shelby convertible.

5409 cc (5.4 liter)
475 horsepower
6-speed manual
0-60mph = 4.5 seconds.

Vrooooom

and $1,156,000 less than the other "cover story" car - Bugatti Vetron 16.4 :p :p

By the way, R&T Best Car 2006 is the Corvette Z206 (0-60 in 3.9 seconds)
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