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My 25 Year Marriage is Over - A Request For Help

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moody, p.i.
Posted 2008-07-28 10:55 AM (#28817 - in reply to #28767)
Subject: Re: My 25 Year Marriage is Over - A Request For Help


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Originally posted by cliff:
Dave;
Perhaps the local college has a remedial computer course you can attend.
(with any luck, you can sit next to McCain)
Or just claim that you have vast experience with it, always supported it and have the judgment to deal with it (when you have no experience with it, never supported it in the past, and have been on the wrong side of the argument in the past -- like Obama), and sound so good that everybody believes you....
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Damon67
Posted 2008-07-28 11:00 AM (#28818 - in reply to #28767)
Subject: Re: My 25 Year Marriage is Over - A Request For Help



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Good move Dave. You won't be sorry after the initial transition period is over. I have a few "Mac Basics" training guides designed for first timers. I used them back when I sold these things to new converts.

If you want them, let me know and I'll dig 'em up and email them to you Sir.
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cliff
Posted 2008-07-28 11:27 AM (#28819 - in reply to #28767)
Subject: Re: My 25 Year Marriage is Over - A Request For Help


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WHY IS IT that you AssClowns have such a knee-jerk reaction to "Go Political" with this sh!t??

READ MY POST.

Witko is from Arizona.

Mr. McCain is from Arizona.

Mr. McCain has PUBLICLY admitted to being "Computer Illiterate".

Witko has admitted to "Mac Illiteracy".

THEREIN lies the basis of my jibe.

JesusChrist!!
Grow a Brain and stop being so f@ckin' TOUCHY!! . . .
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John B
Posted 2008-07-28 11:58 AM (#28820 - in reply to #28767)
Subject: Re: My 25 Year Marriage is Over - A Request For Help


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Originally posted by cliff:
WHY IS IT that you AssClowns have such a knee-jerk reaction to "Go Political" with this sh!t??

READ MY POST.

Witko is from Arizona.

Mr. McCain is from Arizona.

Mr. McCain has PUBLICLY admitted to being "Computer Illiterate".

Witko has admitted to "Mac Illiteracy".

THEREIN lies the basis of my jibe.

JesusChrist!!
Grow a Brain and stop being so f@ckin' TOUCHY!! . . .
Well, at least he just called you "AssClowns". Of he were REALLY annoyed you would have been "F@ckWits". ;)
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Slipkid
Posted 2008-07-28 12:01 PM (#28821 - in reply to #28767)
Subject: Re: My 25 Year Marriage is Over - A Request For Help



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In my earlier post the best phrase to express my point was "change for sake of change". Believe me... I pondered the potential political responces to this for a good 60 seconds before I decided to hit the post button.
We're into some strange times gentlemen..... strange times.
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Gallerinski
Posted 2008-07-28 12:36 PM (#28822 - in reply to #28767)
Subject: Re: My 25 Year Marriage is Over - A Request For Help
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Brad, believe me I didn't do "CFTSOC". I do three basic things on the computer 1) music, 2) photos, 3) webpage design. For a good 10 years people expert in those areas kept telling me I needed to be using a Mac. But I resisted for a number of reasons. Like clockwork every 2.5 years my PC would be brought to it's knees and require replacing. And every time I would say "yup, I'm gonna buy a Mac", but at the last second I would step back from the edge and invest in another temporary windows solution. I finally hit my limit and just said "screw it, it's now or never". I didn't take the plunge un-advised, or ill-informed, and it was a 2x cost premium over a PC machine. But so far it has worked out wonderfully. Just like with Ovations, I'm not claiming the Mac is the better tool for all situations. But for what I do it's the best choice and I am 100% sure of that.

Dave
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cliff
Posted 2008-07-28 12:46 PM (#28823 - in reply to #28767)
Subject: Re: My 25 Year Marriage is Over - A Request For Help


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I'd actually love to have a Mac for dedicated recording purposes, but right now I'm relegated to just one machine, and it needs t'be a PC in order to run AutoDesk design applications . . .
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moody, p.i.
Posted 2008-07-28 1:01 PM (#28824 - in reply to #28767)
Subject: Re: My 25 Year Marriage is Over - A Request For Help


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Dave,

I thought you just bought your PC less than 2 years ago, last time I was thru Phoenix? You were buying a Dell at the time. It died already?

Clifford, just havin' fun with ya. As a side note, I was in a recording studio a couple of weeks ago (boy, do I hate the sound of my voice), and the guy who owned the studio had several dedicated PC's with nothing on them but his recording software. He said that anything else on them would just screw them up and that they needed all the dedicated power they could use for that software. But it was interesting that he used PC's instead of Mac's......
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Gallerinski
Posted 2008-07-28 1:34 PM (#28825 - in reply to #28767)
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Originally posted by moody, p.i.:
Dave, I thought you just bought your PC less than 2 years ago, last time I was thru Phoenix? You were buying a Dell at the time. It died already?
Um Paul, it was FIVE years ago you were in Phoneix. And yes I had just installed a new Dell. That was TWO Dell's ago ...

Dave
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moody, p.i.
Posted 2008-07-28 1:38 PM (#28826 - in reply to #28767)
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October 2006. I was there on a case and spent the night at your house.....
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Gallerinski
Posted 2008-07-28 1:45 PM (#28827 - in reply to #28767)
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Yeah you're right. I was going based on the photo date of you and I playing the Theads. That was the FIRST Dell.

Yeah, you were there for the install of the SECOND Dell, which has now met it's death as well. Actually it still works, plays music beautifully as long as you don't move the mouse at the same time. I've set it up in the other room and am temporarily using it just for webpage design and photoshop while I get those moved over to the Mac.

Dave
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moody, p.i.
Posted 2008-07-28 1:53 PM (#28828 - in reply to #28767)
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Amazing that Dells aren't lasting for you. I'm on a Gateway that I've had for about 6 years.....
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Gallerinski
Posted 2008-07-28 2:01 PM (#28829 - in reply to #28767)
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... and we've all read the quality of some of the posts you make using that old dog.

Dave
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Weaser P
Posted 2008-07-28 2:01 PM (#28830 - in reply to #28767)
Subject: Re: My 25 Year Marriage is Over - A Request For Help


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Dave must use more than three keys?
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stephent28
Posted 2008-07-28 2:22 PM (#28831 - in reply to #28767)
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A properly setup PC will play AND RECORD music beautifully. Without all the excess CRAP that most people love to load, the PC is extremely stable and versatile.

Plus, there is a ton more software to choose from.

The positive of MACS is that they have one internal structure and one structure only which makes it very easy for numbnuts to use without having any knowledge of the hardware they are using.

Also makes it very simple for software manufacturers to write for it since they know that basically all the models (internals) are essentially the same.

I prefer choices....but MACS do accomplish somethings better than any other machine on the market!
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stephent28
Posted 2008-07-28 2:25 PM (#28832 - in reply to #28767)
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Originally posted by schroeder:
Life is simply better with a Mac.
add fries and a shake and I gotta agree with ya!
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Jeff W.
Posted 2008-07-28 6:28 PM (#28833 - in reply to #28767)
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Whoa...
Time to dig me a bunker... the END is near boys and girls.
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fillhixx
Posted 2008-07-28 7:16 PM (#28834 - in reply to #28767)
Subject: Re: My 25 Year Marriage is Over - A Request For Help



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of what?
The Internet? ...about time!
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stephent28
Posted 2008-07-28 7:16 PM (#28835 - in reply to #28767)
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Jeff, let me clarify.........

Originally posted by stephent28:
MACS do accomplish somethings better than any other machine on the market!
Overcharge for hardware, overcharge for software, etc.......
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TAFKAR
Posted 2008-07-28 7:42 PM (#28836 - in reply to #28767)
Subject: Re: My 25 Year Marriage is Over - A Request For Help



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Actually it only seems like the Macs cost more because you pay for it upfront. Most people I know who got "a great deal" on a PC ended up doing things like adding a video card, more RAM, bigger hard drive, DVD recorder - all of which bring it up to a similar price to a Mac which had it all from the beginning.
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Jeff W.
Posted 2008-07-28 7:59 PM (#28837 - in reply to #28767)
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true dat...
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Waskel
Posted 2008-07-28 8:27 PM (#28838 - in reply to #28767)
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Right. And no one ever needs to add anything to a Mac... :rolleyes:
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Jeff W.
Posted 2008-07-28 8:41 PM (#28839 - in reply to #28767)
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lb for lb... there's hardly, if any, difference in price between comparably loaded Mac/PC machines.

(Does Vista count as an OperatingSystem?)
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Weaser P
Posted 2008-07-28 9:14 PM (#28840 - in reply to #28767)
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Ooo, would hafta disagree there, Mr 10k. In the creative/advertising world, there's a UNIVERSE of difference and I've bought several of each over the past 15 years. Usually in the neighborhood of about $4,000 difference per. Most of that is because of creative software that not everyone needs but, even before software, base machines are typically at least $500 apart.

After dealing with both for years, I still come down on the "it depends what you're doing and what your requirements are" much more so than the money because if it comes down to software requirements you're usually too far down the road to even consider going with the other. The PowerBook has changed that a bit but not completely. YMMV.
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Waskel
Posted 2008-07-28 10:21 PM (#28841 - in reply to #28767)
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Weaser's right. As far as hardware goes, I can usually build a PC for around half the cost of a Mac. Ordering one built would be more of course.
But at least one can still build their own PC...

In the software world, the difference is much greater.
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