|
|
Joined:
July 2002
Posts: 327
Location: Houston, TX | Yeah Paul, I know you're right. It just hit me wrong at the time I guess. Kind of hypocritical for a guy who says "Jesus, it was a friggin joke" to turn around and miss the joke himself. My fault Bailey.
Has anyone noticed that the selection at pawn shops has really gone down the tubes. I once had a regular circuit I would cover so that I hit some decent shops at least every 2-3 months. Now there's nothing but junk everywhere I go. Is this just a local phenomenon, or has ebay killed the pawn shop special? |
|
| |
|
Joined:
February 2002
Posts: 5750
Location: Scotland | Ebay is the global yardsale, and I for one don't have a problem with that. Most of the pawnshop/junkshop operators I've come accross have been little more than criminals & if it puts some of those assholes out of business, so be it, said he, taking the ball of a different subject, and running with it!.........
[ August 10, 2002: Message edited by: Paul Templeman ] |
|
| |
|
Joined:
July 2002
Posts: 150
Location: Minneapolis, MN | A friend of mine coined the term 'pawn-tiquing' (at least that's where I heard that term first)when we would go make rounds at all of the local pawnshops- looking for good deals. I'm not sure that the selection of decent merchandise (guitars)has declined as a result of ebay, but that perhaps ebay has allowed these places to ask more for their stuff... Just a thought...
[ August 10, 2002: Message edited by: Rich ]
[ August 11, 2002: Message edited by: Rich ] |
|
| |
|
Joined:
August 2002
Posts: 41
Location: Boston MA | Frist I would love to go to the plant I live in Mass and would be there any time I must say that I realy like all the guitar talk but the humer is great Bailey you are a riot a was cracking up!! Would go down the yellow brick road on a mule just to get there to meet all you!! Brian I to like to hit the local pawn shops I live in Boston so ther are a lot I have seen a fall in good items and rise in price I got A brand new Elite 1868T on e-bay for 700 good deal I think
[ August 11, 2002: Message edited by: Brian ] |
|
| |
|
Joined:
May 2002
Posts: 29
Location: Baton Rouge, Louisiana | And while you guys make your way to Ovation Headquarters for the OFC Convention, pick me up in Baton Rouge and I'll be leading in the strumming of a slow-tempo "Gentle on My Mind" in E-flat, using my 1617-4 Legend I bought recently from Alpep! (It's awesome, Al!). All you guys can put your capo on the first fret and do it in da key of D.
But watch out -- the last verse will be done in E, so the rest of you capoed guys will have to get in high gear and do the dreaded E-flat!
When we do our jams at Ovation, how are we going to get all 400-plus of us in tune??? |
|
| |
|
Joined:
May 2002
Posts: 3005
Location: Las Cruces, NM | All you old movie buffs missed it, it was "The Man in the Gray Flannel Suit" not the "Gray Flannel Suit". Yesterday was our 45th wedding anniversary so I didn't log on, but I was expecting at least 5 corrections by tonight. I was sure Gizz was going to kick my butt and make me write on the blackboard 100 times (note that he is a teacher) the exact spanish translation of "Loiue, Louway,O,O,O" with tablature.
Tommy, what is this "in tune" and E flat requirement, us guys who didn't take lessons shouldn't have to do advanced guitar, and you can't bring any of those deadly Louisiana mosquitos with you to the convention.
I don't think Ebay killed the pawn shops, they never had many deals to begin with. Every time I pawned a good guitar, I redeemed it. For the last 10 years or so everybody is looking for that rare collectible or antique, and many have learned to recognize a brand name so the fleamarketpawnshopgaragesale is picked over like Scrooge's bedroom in Christmas's past. TV is more likely the culprit with shows like "Antiques" and every cheap publication that has been telling people how to get rich by buying Stradivarious violins from this hick farmer or trailer park person, never saying why they would ever have a Stradivarious, or in our case an "original" Glen Campbell Ovation when those people bought Sears Roebuck instruments. The real great thing that's happening in Ovations, is there are deals on Ebay that have terrific prices, but, as usual, I ain't got any money.
That's why it's cheap humor, that's all us people on a musician's salary can afford.
So, let's all hop a freight and meet at the factory before winter makes that form of travel uncomfortable.
"Go to Sleep you Weary Hobo" (Woody Guthrie)
Bailey
:D
[ August 12, 2002: Message edited by: Bailey ] |
|
| |
|
Joined:
June 2002
Posts: 123
Location: Pensacola,FL | Bailey
CONGRATS on 45 ! In todays world you two are an exception to the rule. As for the OFC convention
(next fall?) maybe in October before the snow starts falling in New England (them box cars can get a little drafty :D ). |
|
| |
|
Joined:
December 2001
Posts: 10583
Location: NJ | OGL1 Rick Hall suggested spring in his post. |
|
| |
|
Joined:
March 2002
Posts: 14842
Location: NJ | "...When we do our jams at Ovation, how are we going to get all 400-plus of us in tune???...."
The "lunch whistle" at the factory is A440. |
|
| |
|
Joined:
December 2001
Posts: 7247
Location: The Great Pacific Northwest | For whomever would like to organize this event, keep in mind that although Spring 2003 is a ways off in "real" time.. it's getting close in "planning" time. With most events you can figure a 25-30% turnout which now is a little over 100 people. In another 8 months that number will be closer to 250 people and possibly much more. Actually if we continue our current growth rate it will be closer to 350 people, if only 25% show up. Finding a hotel and convention facilities, catering etc.. can no longer be left up to the local Dominoes or Pizza Hut. |
|
| |
|
Joined:
May 2002
Posts: 3005
Location: Las Cruces, NM | Miles
I'll be serious and second you on that. This thing is taking on a good possibility of working out. Now would be the time to start headcounts, rough plans, volunteers, etc. and probably your timeline is realistic. Fortunately you have the perfect setup to pull it off in your bulletin board.
Scott
It looks like your suggestion might pan out, the people on this board are a good bunch from what I've seen, and probably would be great fun to meet and jam with. Some, like myself, may not enjoy travelling so much, but we would sure enjoy hearing about it if the rest of you pull it off.
Bailey |
|
| |
|
Joined:
December 2001
Posts: 7247
Location: The Great Pacific Northwest | I will make a priority of putting up a sign-up sheet for the OFC Convention. I will make a survay for a preferred date part of the signup. |
|
| |
|
Joined:
January 2002
Posts: 14127
Location: 6 String Ranch | Maybe we could have an alternate site at Bailey's adobe? (with the new addition) Maybe then we'll get our long lost brother Russel to come. |
|
| |
|
Joined:
May 2002
Posts: 3005
Location: Las Cruces, NM | cwktwo
Glad you mentioned that, I'm concerned about our fellow ex New Mexican also. I've done a few searches on the NM papers to see if his name came up and no luck. I'm almost sure that I read an article about his Santa Fe business in the Arts section of our paper some time ago either before or as he was retiring, just a vague reccollection from the things he said in his postings. Russ, if I'm wrong, please log on and correct me.
Bailey |
|
| |
|
Joined:
March 2002
Posts: 14842
Location: NJ | Prior to my NM vaccaciones in July, I had sent Russ an email enquiring about his former studio in Santa Fe as I wanted it check it out, but never got a response. I suspect that he's just not "connected" in his travels. I hope he's okay.
btw Bailey, BEAUTIFUL state ya' got there!!
Didn't get to see as much as I'da liked to, but was able to take in Albequerque, the "Turquoise Trail", Santa Fe, and Bandolier all in one day on my way to Colorado. I hope to go back soon and stay in New Mexico. |
|
| |
|
Joined:
January 2002
Posts: 14127
Location: 6 String Ranch | New Mex is great, isn't it? Russw's studio was just east of SFe about 20 minutes, towards Las Vegas (NM that is). My sister and mother live out there and he's supposed to stop by and see sis before he goes south for the winter. I'll send word he should report in, he's been seriously AWOL. |
|
| |
|
Joined:
December 2001
Posts: 10583
Location: NJ | russ was going to make a visit to jersey after he was done in DC He never made it.... |
|
| |
|
Joined:
May 2002
Posts: 3005
Location: Las Cruces, NM | cliff & cwktwo
Thank you, speaking for the NM state, for the nice comments, the people here are as nice as the features. I chose this place when I left California in 1979, so I'm living where I want to, not where I have to. One of the things that might or might not be obvious when you visit is that this was the last of the wild west. The Lincoln County war, Billy the Kid, the final Apache wars, all took place at the turn of the century. Butch Cassidy's wild bunch hung around the Silver City area for some years, and robbed a train in Catron County toward's the end of their career. One of the best books about the area was written by an English gentleman named Capt. William French (Recollections of a Western Ranchman) who invested in and operated a ranch north of Silver City from the 1880's to the turn of the century, and viewed the outlaws, Indians, and frontier characters with a wry and unbiased British humor. Recall that Britain was highly civilized at the time. Anyway, some traces of those days can still be found if you look hard enough.
Well, you pushed one of my buttons, to get back to Russ, I fear he is like some of us in that if something happened to him no one else would know to let us know. Does anybody know any other contact that could be politely queried?
Bailey |
|
| |
|
Joined:
March 2002
Posts: 15680
Location: SoCal | I'm assuming that emails have been sent to Russ's private email address. Has anybody tried to pick up a phone number where Russ lives? Or tried to locate family or tried to find out where he used to live in the states? I am a trained investeigator (when my wife if happy with me she says I' a world class p.i. When she's not she says I'm just a small time thug.. the thug part is true, but I hate being thought of as small time) and if everybody gives me what info they have, I might be able to generate some contact info. |
|
| |
|
Joined:
December 2001
Posts: 10583
Location: NJ | Yeah Paul we know $300 a day plus expenses..... |
|
| |
|
Joined:
March 2002
Posts: 15680
Location: SoCal | Actually, for this group, I was thinking pro bono. |
|
| |
|
Joined:
March 2002
Posts: 14842
Location: NJ | aw man! don't bring U2 into this!!! |
|
| |
|
Joined:
May 2002
Posts: 3005
Location: Las Cruces, NM | He was talking about Cher |
|
| |
|
Joined:
March 2002
Posts: 15680
Location: SoCal | I was talking about free. |
|
| |
|
Joined:
June 2002
Posts: 31
Location: Baton Rouge, LA | Hey guys and gals:
Let's see if we can get some Ovation endorsees to jam with us at Ovation headquarters, sorta like a "past, present, and future" of Ovation Guitars. Possible good advertising/marketing strategy for this company (as well as the Ovation Fan Club). I won't even think about going unless my man Glen Campbell commits to being part of the Ovation Festival and putting on a mini-concert.
Tommy "Gentle on My Mind" Darensbourg |
|
| |
OFC Convention
