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Location: NJ | YOu have to realize that ordering a CUSTOM guitar for your personal specs and putting together a guitar that will appeal to a wide variety of people are too different things.
If you want a guitar with personal specs send me your custom order requests and I will get them priced uot for you.
If the fd 14 or the acoustic only adamas or the OFC merchandise is a sign, there are few willing to pony up when the time comes. |
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Location: Midland, MI | Originally posted by alpep:
YOu have to realize that ordering a CUSTOM guitar for your personal specs and putting together a guitar that will appeal to a wide variety of people are too different things.
If you want a guitar with personal specs send me your custom order requests and I will get them priced uot for you.
If the fd 14 or the acoustic only adamas or the OFC merchandise is a sign, there are few willing to pony up when the time comes.
I'm new, so be gentle, but, what's an FD14? |
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Location: Converse, Texas | Sorry guys, but from a marketing standpoint, a collector's edition for the OFC would have very limited saleability. I do agree, though, that the collector's should all be very unique. |
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Location: SoCal | Cruster, good question - had the same one a few months ago. Very unique. Light, feels more like an LX - Dave (standingovation) has said it is the best sounding wood Ovation (rough paraphrase) and I absolutely concur.
Limited run of 50 instruments, deep bowl non-cutaway body, solid AAA grade cedar top w/natural satin finish, 5-piece mahogany/maple neck w/19 fret ebony fretboard (no inlays), 1 3/4" nut width, 25 1/4" scale, neck attaches to body at the 12th fret, ebony pinless bridge, slotted peghead w/ebony overlay, gold Schaller tuners w/ebony buttons, tortoise shell inlayed rosette, Ovation True-Balance pickup w/direct out preamp & preset E.Q. (no controls - end pin) |
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Location: NJ | I think the best bet would be just going with the OFC truss rod covers (or at least, just STARTING with that). |
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Location: The Great Pacific Northwest | cruster and Tony,
To further expound (actually I would guess Tony already knows) on the reason for that commentary, the FD-14 was made based on a lot of the "wish list" commentary from this board. Also there were several deep bowl acoustic only Adamas guitars made available to members. Based on the fact that no one from the OFC bought any of those guitars when they were made available, I see no motivation for Ovation to design anything too special for the OFC. Maybe something simple like a custom truss rod cover, or some special 12th fret marker that is different from the norm, but not specifically OFC would be prudent on their part. If folks from the OFC purchased them, fine, if not, they would still be nice instruments to sell on the open market. |
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Location: Huntington Beach, CA | I don't see any combination that hasn't already been tried. By the time all of the input is gathered and the OFC designs a new Ovation, it will be an Adamas... with a deep bowl. Think of all the primary components and see what can be improved upon. The top, the electronics, bowl thickness, bracing, neck/finger-board, ornamentation, body style, headstock. What hasn't been tried?
I think all the permutations have been developed. So, just select a model (hopefully from among the past greats)and put OFC on the 12th fret.
I vote for the folklore steel-string, slot head, LX in stereo with thin, maybe rosewood colored deep bowl. |
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Location: SoCal | I, personally, think it should be a 12 fret slothead Adamas with special inlays on the neck. And Ovation should just give them to the OFC members for being so loyal.
Wha... sorry. Just woke up from a wonderful dream. |
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Location: NJ | OK guys
I just heard from the powers to be.
We CAN do this BUT I would have to have a firm committment to 12 guitar minimum and we would have to AGREE on the specs.
I would be willing to do this but it would mean a firm commmitment from everyone involved and half DEPOSIT for every guitar ordered.
So the first thing would be to come together on specs for a guitar that EVERYONE would like and would be of interest to many.
My vote goes for
Adamas 1
shallow bowl
op pro preamp
ebony board
cutaway
single epaulet
slot head
gold hardware
Blue textured top
schaller tuners |
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Location: SoCal | Al,
Add a carved bridge and I'm in. |
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Location: Scotland | Shallow bowl??????????????????????????????? mid-depth maybe, but otherwise include me out.
See how ridiculous this is? 2 posts later and we're back to picking over details. |
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Location: NJ | bowl size could probably be per order
so we have 3 so far? |
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Location: Scotland | If they'll make, and they probably will, a 12-fret textured-top Adamas with a slot-head wide-neck, deepbowl cutaway & electronics they can have my money right now & I couldn't care less whether anyone else wants one. Good luck with the OFC model, but I guess if it happens it probably wont suit me. |
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Location: Florida | We talking LX treatment on the neck joint?
If a mid bowl... I'd do that (within even slightly unreasonable price)
BUT - I wonder how many would want the same?
Is a poll in order? |
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Location: Brighton,MI | Great specs Al! I would be interested depending on cost and the ability to order a deeper bowl.
Jim |
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Location: SoCal | This is one that I'm going to pass on. With limited funds, I might be able to finance one new Ovation this year, and if that's the case, I'm going to have it custom made. |
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Location: Tennessee | I'm interested, but will need to know ballpark pricing before I can commit to writing the check. FWIW, I'm generally OK with Al's list, although I too would rather see a mid or deep bowl. And if I could have my choice of epaulets, it would be the palm tree ... quite fitting for a collectable guitar (and it would match the case lining). |
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Location: Lafayette, Louisiana | MOB
Deep Bowl
Solid Top
NNNNnaaaaaaaa, forget it! :D :D :D |
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Location: SoCal | 12-string
Adamas 1 headstock
mid or deep bowl as option (prefer deep)
op pro preamp
ebony board w/abalone inlaids
cutaway
double epaulet
gloss neck
slot head, 12 fret
gold hardware, pearloid buttons
blue reverse sunburst [8] textured top
schaller tuners
carved walnut bridge
certificate of authenticity
serial number OFC 1 of 12 |
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Location: So. Cal. | Al, you spec. it and I'll buy it. That said, I just want to remind myself and whoever is interested that the main criterion for myself to buy a guitar is the way it sounds and how it fits in my playing and musical choice. It is a little different than buying an automobile. Options and materials will all affect the outcome of the sound. I am not sure even the factory will know exactly what the sound will be like. It's probably more of a sentimental and memorable piece, but a good sounding one at that.
Just my personal thoughts on the matter. |
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Location: Phoenix AZ | Al, I'm confused. What exactly is the difference if 15 of us order the same spec "custom guitar" vs. everyone special orders their own custom. Are you inferring that the pricing might be better with a run of 15? My guess is that the difference is price may not be worth compromising what each person really wants in a "custom" guitar. I for one, would rather pay a bit more and get exactly what I want.
Sooo, what would I order? How about a Hamer Studio with an Ovation headstock ??? |
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Location: NJ | well obviously a custom order guitar is a one off and a limited run is exactly that a limited run.
I assume pricing would be cheaper when you tool up for 12 guitars as opposed to a single one. plus we can perhaps have them numbered sequencially and 1/12, 2/12 etc.
bowl size can probably be adjusted without any extra cost, certain neck specs etc would of course make it a custom guitar.
To make it a "fan club model" we would need to have more that one. |
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Location: NJ | Judging by the direction that this seeems to be going in, I'd have to humbly bow out. I'm not really in the financial position right now to buy a custom guitar that doesn't suit my needs on the sheer basis of everyone else in the "Club" has the same one.
I don't "need" another deep-bowl six-string. I've already got two. I don't "need" another Adamas (and without trying to sound "snob-ish", anything that Ovation might be able to produce - at an affordable cost - would pale in comparison).
For me, the ultimate "gig guitar" :
Shallow(or mid)bowl EliteT.
"Flame" model - but without the "flame" - just the "base" shade of red (or maybe a nice blue).
Same gloss finish on top, bowl, neck & headstock.
No eppaulets.
Ebony fingerboard.
Inlay logo at 12th fret - none on headstock.
OpPro.
Either that or something like Witko's "StealthAdamas". |
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Location: Phoenix AZ | Ahhh, Cliff my boy. Almost forgot about the Stealth Adamas. Check the website, just added the photos of old stealthy a few weeks ago. But photos don't do it justice, especially with Temps greasy sweaty fingerprints. Next January, this one will be a looky, touchy, but no can keep. Ultimate gigging guitar? Yeah, I'd say so... |
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Location: Waurika OK | Al,
I like your list. Now for the price?
noel |
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Is there any interest or chance of an OFC LX guitar... made to our spec?
