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moody, p.i.
Posted 2004-10-26 4:06 PM (#175277 - in reply to #175227)
Subject: Re: Adamas slothead


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Looks beige to me. Only the pic posted on this thread looks blue.
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Bluebird
Posted 2004-10-26 4:13 PM (#175278 - in reply to #175227)
Subject: Re: Adamas slothead



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Cliff, the beige color is grayish-blue in the center and runs to cream at the outside...that's the way this one is showing up on my monitor.

It's one of the few things that isn't strange about this whole auction. :rolleyes:

Wayne
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cliff
Posted 2004-10-26 4:15 PM (#175279 - in reply to #175227)
Subject: Re: Adamas slothead


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okay . . . .

T'me it looks like a blue one in crappy outdoor lite. . . . oh, well.
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moody, p.i.
Posted 2004-10-26 4:17 PM (#175280 - in reply to #175227)
Subject: Re: Adamas slothead


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Sounds to me like it's margarita time.
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cliff
Posted 2004-10-26 4:20 PM (#175281 - in reply to #175227)
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. . . actually, it's 20-past MargaritaTime.
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Bluebird
Posted 2004-10-26 4:33 PM (#175282 - in reply to #175227)
Subject: Re: Adamas slothead



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". . . actually, it's 20-past MargaritaTime. "

I think I need one too...I'd like to nail this one to the wall (the auction, not the guitar) but all the controversy makes it a little scary.

Also, I'd have to cash in some blue-chip Phender stuff to pay for a guitar most people have never heard of. When you are spending this much money, one can't help but be concerned about the ability to cash it out if you need to for some reason.

Decisions...

Wayne
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Beal
Posted 2004-10-26 7:06 PM (#175283 - in reply to #175227)
Subject: Re: Adamas slothead



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Cliff, time for the medicine.....
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moody, p.i.
Posted 2004-10-26 7:09 PM (#175284 - in reply to #175227)
Subject: Re: Adamas slothead


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Bill, I think it's a least 5:00 somewhere. Time for a drink in Margaritaville.
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playadamas
Posted 2004-10-26 7:16 PM (#175285 - in reply to #175227)
Subject: Re: Adamas slothead


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Cliff, let's say you are in dire financial hell, you have already sold all your other valuables. Either you come up with some money for the IRS or you are going straight to the slammers, how much would you ask for your slothead? You only have, say a week to close the deal.
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moody, p.i.
Posted 2004-10-26 7:41 PM (#175286 - in reply to #175227)
Subject: Re: Adamas slothead


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It would depend on whether he could go to the same place as Martha Stewart. I happen to know that he's always had a "thing" for her.
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Nils
Posted 2004-10-26 11:46 PM (#175287 - in reply to #175227)
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It's gone.

/\/\/
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Tony Calman
Posted 2004-10-26 11:51 PM (#175288 - in reply to #175227)
Subject: Re: Adamas slothead



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looks to me that eBay decided to pull the listing:

The item you requested (3756843409) is invalid, still pending, or no longer in our database. Please check the number and try again. If this message persists, the item has either not started and is not yet available for viewing, or has expired and is no longer available.
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Standingovation
Posted 2004-10-27 12:27 AM (#175289 - in reply to #175227)
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Maybe someone bought it and he cancelled the auction.
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Tony Calman
Posted 2004-10-27 1:57 AM (#175290 - in reply to #175227)
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Dave, missing in action?

This is part of what I got from eBay:

Please be aware that auction:

3756843409 - OVATION ADAMAS VINTAGE PROTO-TYPE

in which you were a bidding participant, has been ended early by eBay for violating one or more of our listing guidelines.

Because the auction was ended early, you as a bidder are not required to complete the transaction. Since this is a listing violation, the seller is free to relist the item in the proper format. Should you wish to do so, you are free to bid on the item again if it is relisted.
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Standingovation
Posted 2004-10-27 3:29 AM (#175291 - in reply to #175227)
Subject: Re: Adamas slothead



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I'm stuck somewhere between asia and europe. Back in the US next monday. Ukulele shopping in Japan was a success. I found the REAL mothership. You will love it.

About this slothead, does anyone have the sellers email address. I've got a few questions about his guitar.
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cliff
Posted 2004-10-27 8:15 AM (#175292 - in reply to #175227)
Subject: Re: Adamas slothead


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hmmmm . . .

I guess THIS is why Miles refers to it as the "Elusive (as opposed to "Illusive" ;-) SlotHead" . . .

How high'd this thing go before it was pulled??

If he was serious about selling it, he should've just listed it here under ForSale at ". . $15K . . period."

Mike:
If it came down to a showdown with the IRS, you'd be reading a post from Russ about the new singer for Bubba and the Bottomfeeders who sleeps in the little room behind Philo's . . .

Moody:
My ex-wife was Martha Stewart before there WAS a Martha Stewart . . . been there/done that.

. . . . I've often pondered willing the guitar to the Metropolitan Museum of Art's musical instrument collection . . . .
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Beal
Posted 2004-10-27 8:54 AM (#175293 - in reply to #175227)
Subject: Re: Adamas slothead



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If it smells like fish.....
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MWoody
Posted 2004-10-27 11:28 AM (#175294 - in reply to #175227)
Subject: Re: Adamas slothead



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...smoke it?

Having been one of, I suspect many, that turned in a question to the Ebay Police, I feel bad and good.

If you sign on to take advantage of the audience that eBay gets you need to play by the accepted rules. Using this site to sell ovations has it's frustrations and triumphs as well but there are rules of trust and fairness involved.

I hope Hector jumps back into the light of day with this instrument but I doubt it. My intuition is that it was never meant to be sold unless a fanatical offering was made.

It is sad. The spirit in which these instruments were crafted and distributed was gracious and benevolent. They were meant to be shared and appreciated.

My apologies to Spider as I know I have vented on the possibility of "treasures" going abroad. My frustration is actually on "our" lack of support and appreciation in keeping these items.

It sure was a nice thought that an OFC'er might have it on their wall though.
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Country Artist
Posted 2004-10-27 2:36 PM (#175295 - in reply to #175227)
Subject: Re: Adamas slothead



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Here is a new email I got from the seller:

"HI, SORRY,
SOMEONE REPORTED ME TO EBAY ABOUT THE RESERVE AND THEY CANCELLED THE AUCTION.
THATS OK ,I`LL JUST RELIST.I THINK IT WAS THE LA,CAIFORNIA GUY WHO IS MAD BECAUSE I DID NOT SELL TO HIM FOR 6,800.00.
GOT TWO OTHER OFFERS HIGHER,YOU`LL SEE.
REMEMBER, IF AUCTION IS NOT AT LEAST 7-9,000.00 I WON`T SEND IT,WHAT EVER HAPPENS.

15K WAS TO SEE THE MARKET,BECAUSE I DID`NT KNOW,THATS ALL. WHAT IF I PUT A HIGH RESERVE FOR REAL, IT DON`T SELL AND I PAY MONEY TO EBAY ANYWAY,RIGHT?"

Serge

www.sergiolara.com :rolleyes:
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Country Artist
Posted 2004-10-31 8:39 AM (#175296 - in reply to #175227)
Subject: Re: Adamas slothead



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Well, I am Guemozo on ebay.
I won the guitar for 5K.

Now, he emailed days ago saying that "he had an offer for 8K and won't sell for less but that he will let the auction finish".

Now, what? I am waiting to see what happens now after it has ended.

It will be unfair and out of ebay rules if he sells it outside of ebay and blows me off, and I hope he does not sell it to an OFC member.

Serge
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Northcountry
Posted 2004-10-31 9:18 AM (#175297 - in reply to #175227)
Subject: Re: Adamas slothead
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I just do not undersatnd why some people insist on not using the EBay option of a reserve? The reason that auction was canceled before was because I think a personal reserve price was stated by the seller in the auction? You can't do that! But they did it again in this one? Must be an ego thing! Just pay the reserve fee and be done with it!

Now whom ever it was that offered this $8,000.00 is going to haggle with the seller anyway now? they know Ebay is ruined for them and relisting it is going to be worthless to him or her?

Wish I had an extra $6000 around I'll bet I could get it for that in a few weeks after this guy gets burned by everyone who emailed him and promised to buy it!

That is a great guitar!!!!! and that was a piss poor auction strategy by the seller?

Every time I get emails about ending an auction or offer to buy my item I am selling I tell them to just bid! If it does not meet it's reserve I will consider fair offers?
You can't blame Ebay they charge a fee for their service and it is a real fair amount considering the commission a guitar dealer would get if he sold this in his store, and for the number of people this auction reached! Foolish Foolish Foolish!
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Paul Templeman
Posted 2004-10-31 11:09 AM (#175298 - in reply to #175227)
Subject: Re: Adamas slothead


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Serge, under ebays rules he MUST sell to you. If he doesn't you need to report him and they "should" cancel his membership, which admittedly is little consolation under the circumstances.

A few weeks a go I bid on and won a vintage American Barbers chair for a friend whose daughter was opening a hairdresing salon. The seller decided that he would not sell "for sentimental reasons" basically he didn't use a reserve & he got a better offer outside of ebay. I reported him, filled in the forms & forwarded all the email headers, but he's still trading on ebay.
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Country Artist
Posted 2004-10-31 11:28 AM (#175299 - in reply to #175227)
Subject: Re: Adamas slothead



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Paul,

Thanks for your input.

I know, and that is what I will do.
I emailed him asking about the shipping charges and I am waiting for his answer.

Will let you know what's next.

Serge
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Northcountry
Posted 2004-10-31 11:46 AM (#175300 - in reply to #175227)
Subject: Re: Adamas slothead
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Serge I hate to say it but I'll bet it's going to go oversea's and we know where. These guitars are so very rare I do not know how set you are financially but perhaps make a slightly better offer to them?? You should have been the buyer on this but for what it's worth Ebay is not going to fight for you and it will take a Lawyer and some more Cash to force this issue? Sucks big time. I know.

Don't let this one go if you can. Make a deal?

Randy
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an4340
Posted 2004-10-31 11:48 AM (#175301 - in reply to #175227)
Subject: Re: Adamas slothead


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If you bid on something and win, its yours. General rule is you can sue for specific performance, and you have to sue her where she lives. Then the next thing is how do you prove damages if it's been sold. Problem is dealing with a deadbeat seller is a pain in the ass, and probably the best thing is just to report her to everyone you can think of, from ebay, to paypal, to the better business bureau and the attorney general of the state she lives in. I'm sorry man, it looked like a good guitar, but the seller's a dirt bag and while guitars don't have bad karmas, people do, and this seller will get hers someday.
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