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Location: Atlanta GA | Hellifiknow... I'm going to have to find another board if you guys are going to continue to use those college words. I'm spending more time in the dictionary than I am playing my guitar. |
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Location: Snellville, GA | "Dark Side of the Moon" the album. |
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Location: Tampa, FL | Disraeli Gears
I believe that at this time Cream and Ginger Baker kind of invented the concept of "Lead Drummer' |
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Location: Midland, MI | I don't know about changing the direction of music in general, but...On Top of Old Smokey, Sweet Violets, Five Foot Two and others sure changed my direction.
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Location: closely held secret | I think the Uke changed your direction - the songs are just mileposts. |
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Location: Malden, Massachusetts | ...listened to at once and continuous...
I know you guys are all old enough to remember that we still had to turn the record over!
Even when the cassette came out.
It was such a pain to get up when you were just getting comfortable. ( roll another one )
Of course, now if you play Dark Side or Thick Brick in their "continous" CD format - you'll probably have to get up to pee before it's over. |
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Location: closely held secret | ...ouchie. Or fall asleep. |
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Location: Cicero, NY | Ok, so where are we? Votes are in for the following...
Sgt Pepper, Rock Around The Clock, Johnny B Goode, Blue Suede Shoes, Jailhouse Rock, Thick As A Brick, Crossroads, Taxman, She Loves You, Disraeli Gears and a couple of votes for not a song but an entire album that had an effect on music in general. Interesting...
Any thoughts about classic Beach Boys, Dylan or maybe even Woody Guthrie? The Boss? Did any one song from the Stones alter the direction? Or did they all just help guide it along the path it was headed in anyway? |
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Location: Earth·SolarSystem·LocalInterstellarCloud·Local Bub | Originally posted by WeaserP:
Did any one song from the Stones alter the direction? Or did they all just help guide it along the path it was headed in anyway? Just cause I'm icthin' for a fight.... The Stones played circles round the Beatles even if they weren't more influntial (and that's arguable) |
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Location: Cicero, NY | Maybe you should scratch that itch with a dictionary...? |
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Location: Earth·SolarSystem·LocalInterstellarCloud·Local Bub | that's how it's spelled here in the Vahginyah Hills. |
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Location: Cicero, NY | I stand corrected (and, once again, very amused). :D |
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Location: Carle Place, NY | The original topic was "a song that changed the direction of music." To me that means a song that started something new and was used as a springboard by other artists to create new sounds, vocal styles, lyrics, song arrangements. Something groundbreaking and influential. Within each genre of popular music there are many songs that would fit the description, such as:
Pop vocal: Be My Baby- Ronnettes featuring Phil Sector's "wall of sound"
Punk: God Save the Queen- Sex Pistols
Rock Insrumental: In Memory of Elizabeth Reed- Allman Brothers
Rock/Classical: Pictures at an Exhibition- ELP
"Acid" Rock: You Keep Me Hangin' On- Vanilla Fudge
DoWop: Runaround Sue- Dion
Motown: Stop in the Name of Love- Supremes
Heavy Metal: Paranoid- Black Sabbath
Rock Opera: Tommy- Who
Perhaps others may want to add to the list, but you get the point.
Still, as far a Rock 'N Roll goes, Johnny B. Goode is the grand-daddy song. Virtually every rock band does some version of the basic 3 chord progression with the instrumental guitar solo "bridge." |
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Location: Cicero, NY | Well thought out, Mitch, and that is exactly what I was asking for - a song that altered the direction of it's genre or, if possible, music in general. I know I didn't tell everybody this upfront but as the genuine thinker in the group, you my friend, can have tomorrow off. The rest of you will report at 8 as usual and Jeff will be charged with bringing the doughnuts.
By the way, I think it's time to give the "List" answer and we can all take turns ripping this apart or supporting it. Gentlemen, start your engines.
The song that was most influential in changing the direction of music as a whole was (drumroll please)...Elvis' That's All Right, Momma.
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Location: closely held secret | "a song that changed the direction of music."
To me this means music that makes people really take notice and listen, and generates inumerable imitations.
But having said that, I don't know if it's possible to say one song ever did that. I think it's possible that certain artists or groups have done that.
Woody Guthrie? The father of folk music.
Chuck Berry? May not have invented rock & roll, but you hear his name and that's what you think of.
The Beach Boys weren't the first or only to play surf rock, but that's who's identified with it. Gershwin? Scott Joplin? Of course. Zappa, tho I don't think anyone's really been able to imitate him.
Sorry Jeff, I like(d) the Stones also, but I don't think there's any argument that the Beatles probably had more influence on modern rock than any band since, as witnessed by the fact that 40 years later, a lot of pop music has it's roots in their songs.
I guess my point is, it's the gift that comes along once in a while, like a gifted mathematician, or surgeon, or poet - what they do affects a change, because their style is imitated.
What if Chuck Berry had only recorded one song? Suppose Lennon/McCartney or Jagger/Richards had gone separate ways after the first album? What if Ozzy hadn't bitten the head off that bat? Or Phil Spector had gone into real estate?
Enough philosophy. Back to the uke. |
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Location: Cicero, NY | I think I would have to disagree. I think to a large extent, especially given the time period of racial division in the US, a "black" song recorded by a young white boy and becoming as big as it did, enormously changed the scene. |
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Location: 6 String Ranch | While not the first I think the Beatles did more to influence music and style. To that end the credit really needs to go to George Martin who oversaw getting it all on record. |
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Location: NJ | I seem to remember reading that in another thread . . . where the question was posed as to who was the most "talented" Beatle . . . and one extremely clever individual came up with Geo. Martin.
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Location: Carle Place, NY | I agree with cwk2.
It was George Martin's idea to have a string quartet back-up Paul's vocal and acoustic guitar on Yesterday.
Yesterday is the most recorded song in history- making it perhaps the most influential song? |
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Location: Snellville, GA | The Doors "Light My Fire". |
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Location: Cicero, NY | I honestly didn't think keeping this on topic would be such a challenge.
It's a good thing I like all you guys... |
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Location: Tampa, FL | Yesterday beats White Christmas? |
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Location: Earth·SolarSystem·LocalInterstellarCloud·Local Bub | For your contemplation
Important Tunes |
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Location: Phoenix AZ | Nice to see that "F**k Da Police" by NWA made the list of important tunes. Not surprising from an outfit like NPR. |
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Location: closely held secret | Weaser, that's my point. In the case of 'That's all right, Mama', it was a white boy singing a black song. Do you think it would have been as influential at that time if a black man had recorded it?
It wasn't the song, so much as the singer.
Bill, when I say Beatles, I never forget George Martin. To me, he is always the '5th' Beatle. Sorry, I just didn't mention him. But how many of us would ever have heard of him if he hadn't been producing Lennon & McCartney songs? True, he has worked with other artists (Jeff Beck, America, Elton John, Little River Band, Cheap Trick, etc) but he is famous as the Beatles producer forever.
Chatman, yes, Yesterday beats White Christmas as the most 'recorded' song. :D |
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