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Location: NW NJ | You know, I really love my 1868LX SS bowl. The sound with the LX enhancements is amazing. I use it mostly for plugged in stuff at church and it is a wonderful combination of comfort and sound. The comfort part is with respect to my own bowl, and the sound is magnificent plugged in. Of course, the only way to get one of those is to buy it overseas, Asia I think, or grab one of the FRGs here, which is what I did. It came pristine, mint, drop dead gorgeous.
For unplugged stuff I'll always use my 6778LX or 1778T - bigger acoustic sound. BUT ... even unplugged the 1868LX is light years ahead of non-LX SS bowls. I wish the mothership hadn't shot them in the U.S. :( |
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Location: Phoenix AZ | I've never heard a SS 6-string that did anything for me. But for some reason 12-strings seem to hold up better as SS's. No idea why that is. Anyone else got the same opinion? I've got a SS Adamas/Elite hybrid 12-string that sounds incredibly good. Dave |
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Location: Fayetteville, NC | Perhaps it was a supply/demand sort of thing. If the ywer eselling more Mid-depth Bowls Here stateside that the shallow bowls. Then the logical step would be make available what you are selling more of. If someone wants a shallowbowl they can still get one as a special order.
so it all must come down to the ole marketing Supply/demand philosophy. just a guess though. |
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Location: Queens, NY | My understanding from last year's factory tour was that there would be no LX super shallow bowls in the US, but I think the "traditional" models will still have them. They're still listed on the Ovation web site and in the 2005 price list.
However, if the traditional models themselves are phased out down the road by the LX line, then the end result would be the same and the SS bowls will be history. I guess time will tell. |
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Location: closely held secret | I like my 1866 and 67 just fine, but I usually am either playing them plugged in, or am deliberately trying not to make too much noise. They're just so comfortable to play.
Like Robbie, I use my 6778LX for acoustic. |
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Location: NJ | ". . I've never heard a SS 6-string that did anything for me. But for some reason 12-strings seem to hold up better as SS's. No idea why that is. Anyone else got the same opinion? . . ."
Yup.
While I don't own a ShallowBowl6 (wish I did - for gigs), the one's that I've played in stores just didn't throw me. My ShallowBowlLegend12 however doesn't sound all that bad. Naturally, it doesn't have anywhere NEAR the bass response of my DeepBowlUltra12 or my Pacemaker (or the bass response the Pacemaker WILL have when I finish w/it), it does have a nice jangly, "harpsichordian" quality to it. Kinda like a oversized mando.
And you just can't beat the comfort of it . . . |
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Location: Peoria, Illinois | Cliff,
Good points about the shallow bowl. If I were to seek out an 1866 Legend 12 string, would I be buying old technology or a stable, well developed instrument that is not "the latest and greatest"?
I really enjoy the comfort factor of the shallow bowl. |
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Location: Phoenix AZ | Originally posted by cliff:
I don't own a ShallowBowl6 (wish I did - for gigs You had your chance. Twice. |
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Location: NJ | ". . old technology or a stable, well developed instrument that is not "the latest and greatest? . ."
Jim;
For my purposes (predominantly playing to a bunch of drunks and at least two TV's), latest/greatest/bells/whistles/tuners/scalloped braces/toasted wheat underpinnings, etc., don't really enter into it. I'm pretty much looking for something that is reliable and bulletproof. The Legend12 that I got from Al (Thank You AGAIN, Al!) fits the bill outstandingly.
Dave;
I know, . . . . I KNOW!!
I STILL think about that StealthAdamas, but the money/timing just wasn't right (f*&%#$g alimony!).
Oh, well . . . |
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Location: 6 String Ranch | If the SS bowl is going away, just wait a few years for the Grand Reissue! |
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Location: Cherry Hill, NJ | The 1868T is a shallow bowl that made me a believer. It has such little cosmetic finish, that is is super light, and has a penetrating sound, unlike any shallow bowl I ever tried. An important attraction to the this shallow bowl is that it is very light. For us aging hippies, its a lot easier on the back, and plugged in it sounds great.
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Location: Boise, Idaho | I thought this thread was getting back on track, after the diversion talking about Dave's toilet habits, but then I saw MSB's reference to his "shallow bowel." If that was intentional it was a little too subtle. I'm looking for a good shallow bowl, too. Mainly because I don't have one and I think I should. |
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Location: Fayetteville, NC | There are still some out there. The latest musicians friend catalogue lists a 1861 Standard Balladeer for $699 including the Case.The ones you are dealing with now I would imagine are the leftover stock. You can also try Al to see if he has any. |
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Location: closely held secret | Originally posted by Mark in Boise:
Mainly because I don't have one and I think I should. LoL, Mark, I'll have to try that one on my wife next time we're in GC. |
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Location: Fayetteville, NC | Think it'll work?? If it does let me know and i'll give it a try. :) |
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Location: closely held secret | I'll have to work up a lot of courage to say it in a room full of blunt objects.
Or wear my tenners. |
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Location: Fayetteville, NC | Have you considered Full Body Armor? You might want to before you ask. :D |
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Location: closely held secret | Naw, Steve. Can't run worth beans in full body armor. |
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Location: Fayetteville, NC | You're right of course.. I didn't think about that. maybe it's safer that you not mention it at all.. You might live longer. :D |
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Location: Fort Worth, Texas | My Legend 1867 is SS and I use it plugged in with the band. Very comfortable...
I know one of these days I'll be looking at an LX or 2005 Collectors or wiat for the contour bowl to be standard.
In the meantime my Legend is the workhorse and it performs.... |
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Location: closely held secret | Can't afford a Viper yet, but I can get some great tones out of my 1867 with my pedal. The notch filter keeps the feedback down. |
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Location: Fayetteville, NC | Waskel,
Whatcha bringing to the OFC tour? |
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Location: closely held secret | 6778LXNEB. My new favorite. :D |
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Location: Fayetteville, NC | Great Guitar. Wish I had one!perhaps one day when finances are right. yes.. One day! I look forward to meeting you at the tour. |
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Location: Boise, Idaho | Waskel,
Quit trying to be rational when dealing with your spouse. Mine buys stuff because it's on sale, not because she needs it. She collected teapots that never had any tea in them.
I tried to explain why I needed a 12 string as well as a 6 string, but she never really got it. We recently came to an understanding when I bought the Ultra GS and an amp on the same day. I didn't tell her about the amp! I needed a nonacoustic amp to go with the electric guitar, but couldn't think of an explanation that I thought she would understand. When she found out, she just said, "OK, now I get new carpet." If that works for her, it works for me. I'll trade one room for each new guitar.
She also admired my "collection" (a whole 4 guitars)last night. I hope this understanding doesn't cost me too much. |
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Is the Shallow Bowl Dead?
