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Wuzhizzoner
Posted 2005-05-17 3:43 PM (#151411 - in reply to #151386)
Subject: Re: GIVE A LISTEN .....Home Recordings


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Stephen: EXCELLENT recordings. I need to do something like this. So you laid down each track and overdubbed basically?


How about laying down I AM THE WALRUS for us?
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schroeder
Posted 2005-05-17 3:54 PM (#151412 - in reply to #151386)
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Great singing - great work. Between steve and slipkid and Brian and who knows else, I'm sure the OFC could produce a band to flatten the Beach Boys, Eagles and probably the Boston Pops Choir. Great stuff.
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Waskel
Posted 2005-05-17 5:06 PM (#151413 - in reply to #151386)
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Good job, Stephen! Technology is great, but it still takes talent to make the music*. You got it.


*Not counting that technomumble hip-plop stuff.
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schroeder
Posted 2005-05-17 5:25 PM (#151414 - in reply to #151386)
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"*Not counting that technomumble hip-plop stuff."

You know the correct term is RAPSHIT (copyright W2).
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Waskel
Posted 2005-05-17 5:42 PM (#151415 - in reply to #151386)
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Nope, RAPSHIT doesn't qualify as music at all.
I'm willing to consider flip-flop (I feel I'm being real generous here) technically music (bad music) but it certainly doesn't take any talent to create. As evidenced by the people who create it...
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Wuzhizzoner
Posted 2005-05-18 8:42 AM (#151416 - in reply to #151386)
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Someone please educate me on Cubase(SE). I'd like to lay down a couple of tracks.
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cliff
Posted 2005-05-18 8:49 AM (#151417 - in reply to #151386)
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Didn't it come with documentation??

I got a brandy new package of SE sittin' on the shelf in my MusicRoom . . . . waiting for Dell . . . who just f&^%#g "delayed" shipment!!
:mad:
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Wuzhizzoner
Posted 2005-05-18 9:46 AM (#151418 - in reply to #151386)
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What is Cubase?
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cliff
Posted 2005-05-18 10:15 AM (#151419 - in reply to #151386)
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mtnbikerfred
Posted 2005-05-18 10:18 AM (#151420 - in reply to #151386)
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Cube Bass
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stephent28
Posted 2005-05-18 10:32 AM (#151421 - in reply to #151386)
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Cubase SX3
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stephent28
Posted 2005-05-18 10:39 AM (#151422 - in reply to #151386)
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Hizzoner,

I use Cubase SX3 but Cubase SE is a good starting place to see if you like the Cubase structure and way of laying down tracks.

The learning curve on some of the better programs are quite steep. However, once you learn the basics they are pretty easy to get around (with an occassional reference to the manual).

If you have Cubase SE, the best way to start is to set aside a couple hours a night for the next 3-4 days and work thru the tutorials until you get the feel for it. Then lay down some very simple tracks...ie. lay down a click track, then add a strumming guitar, then add some simple vocals.

Once you feel comfortable with doing those, then you can get a little fancier and start doubling guitar parts, adding bass and drums, harmonies, etc.

Then you can move on to adding effects and mixing down. Just takes time and patience until you get a good feel for it, then it is moderately easy to put together songs like the few I posted up.

Lots of fun and very satisfying once the frustration level disappears! Take your time and don't give up.
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Wuzhizzoner
Posted 2005-05-18 10:46 AM (#151423 - in reply to #151386)
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So Cubase whichever is a computer program, and you lay down the tracks into the computer through that program? Or do you still have to DI through a mixer into the computer?
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cliff
Posted 2005-05-18 10:55 AM (#151424 - in reply to #151386)
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S28;

What does SE lack that SX/SL have?

I bought SE as an affordable, entry-level foray into the realm in the hopes of upgrading to to the other version(s) further down de'road . . .
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cliff
Posted 2005-05-18 11:08 AM (#151425 - in reply to #151386)
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Master Templeman is slated to spend the night at my place the Wednesday night before we drive up to the OFC Tour . . .

Since he'll probably be crashing in my MusicRoom, perhaps I'll need to shackle him to my newly-built workstation and use various forms of sleep-deprivation techniques to glean whatever knowledge I can gain from his vast expertise . . .
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MWoody
Posted 2005-05-18 11:13 AM (#151426 - in reply to #151386)
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Sleep over... Shackles... deprivation...


Must find a different topic to post on... quickly!
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cliff
Posted 2005-05-18 11:16 AM (#151427 - in reply to #151386)
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What can I say? . . .


. . . Templeman IS a kinky bastid . . .
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MWoody
Posted 2005-05-18 12:28 PM (#151428 - in reply to #151386)
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How did I beat Witko to capitalizing on that one?
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stephent28
Posted 2005-05-18 12:36 PM (#151429 - in reply to #151386)
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Hizzoner,
You have to either mic the instruments, DI them, or use plugins to simulate them (typically bass, strings, keyboards, etc). Guitars are usually mic'ed or DI'ed. On my examples, I just DI'ed them straight into my MOTU 828MK2. You could also just use a small mixer like a Yamaha or Mackie. You can see my basic setup in the gallery.

You do need a decent set of speakers/monitors to really get a good feel for what you are recording. Headphones are ok for a short period but I don't recommend for extended sessions.

Cliff, SE is a great starting point. It contains most everything you need to get started. I did not do anything on the songs I posted that could not have been done with SE. I will probably never use 90% of the features that SX has but I am an idiot when it comes to buying things. I always buy more than I need (just in case!!! which very seldom ever comes)

The differences are pretty significant between SE and SL/SX. Most of it is bells and whistles. Things like pitch shifting and real time stretching, freeze function, more plug ins, user definable color coding for tracks for easier id, etc. The best place is to go to the Steinberg website and look at the comparisons.

If I had it to do over again, I would probably go with the SL version over the SX. Has all the features I would ever "really use" and costs a lot less.
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cliff
Posted 2005-05-18 12:42 PM (#151430 - in reply to #151386)
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Gotcha, Thanks Stephen! . . .

Woodster;
I'd venture t'guess that y'probably got the jump on Witko cause he's busy over in Amsterdam cruising the "coffee shops" in a pair of red fishnets . . .

. . . which in all honesty (judging by all the photos he insists on sending me), he DOES look quite fetching in . . .
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stephent28
Posted 2005-05-19 3:49 PM (#151431 - in reply to #151386)
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Thanks Hizzoner, Waskel and Schroeder!

Very kind words indeed. :D

I talked to Noah and he wanted to know who was doing the vocals (talking on the phone he hears my Texas drawl!) He said it sounded like English pop. I assured him it was me.

My son overheard the phone conversation with Noah and wanted to hear the songs. He didn't believe me either but my wife told him she saw me doing them so it was definately me! ;)

I cring everytime I hear the vocals on MMT because they sound slightly flat to me, but I guess they are ok considering no effects.


OK....I have bared my soul. How about some tunes by our other members?
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Waskel
Posted 2005-05-19 4:23 PM (#151432 - in reply to #151386)
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I would, but haven't anywhere to post them at the moment.
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Slipkid
Posted 2005-05-19 4:40 PM (#151433 - in reply to #151386)
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I admired your recording when you first posted them.
Very nice stuff!
Better late than never.
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Wuzhizzoner
Posted 2005-05-19 4:48 PM (#151434 - in reply to #151386)
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Slipkid admired them so much he said it twice! :D
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schroeder
Posted 2005-05-19 5:12 PM (#151435 - in reply to #151386)
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"Thanks Hizzoner, Waskel and Schroeder!"

Excuse me? I'm running third to a politician and a rabbit?
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