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SLOTHEADS - Pros and Cons
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Tupperware |
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Joined: January 2005 Posts: 4903 Location: Phoenix AZ | Originally posted by fguki: Far easier to understand than the Brit that posted before you! This is created by a german trying to speak some kind of english Back to Professor Templeman. He's a gem. I plan to one day assemble all of his most excellent posts and create a reference book for all of us to share. Actually a three volume set: Volume 1 - Guitar Physics and Acoustics Volume 2 - Why I'm Smarter Than Jesus Volume 3 - Lap Steel For Wankers Read on .... Dave | ||
stephent28 |
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Joined: April 2004 Posts: 13303 Location: Latitude 39.56819, Longitude -105.080066 | Dave, make sure that is is available through the Witkopedia page! | ||
muzza |
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Joined: August 2005 Posts: 3736 Location: Sunshine State, Australia | Yes, those are nice slotheads. But I change my strings a lot (for an amateur) I really thought I'd get flamed for my previous post, but... Anyway, not that I'd ever be able to afford one, but what would be the best sounding Adamas WITH a cutaway and WITHOUT bling? (sorry if this has been discussed) Tomorrow I will do a search for CMT and SMT so I know what Dave's talking about. (It's 3:30am here, and the rain is just bucketting down. Impossible to sleep. And I just topped the pool up 2 days ago) | ||
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Joined: April 2006 Posts: 1138 Location: CT | So where can I order my copy of 'Lap Steel For Wankers'? | ||
Tupperware |
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Joined: January 2005 Posts: 4903 Location: Phoenix AZ | Originally posted by muzza: Jeff W.'s U681 cutaway. AWESOME GUITAR.Anyway, not that I'd ever be able to afford one, but what would be the best sounding Adamas WITH a cutaway and WITHOUT bling? | ||
ProfessorBB |
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Joined: January 2006 Posts: 5881 Location: Colorado Rocky Mountains | Originally posted by Tom_CA: I'm just the opposite. I've never owned a slothead, although there appears to be one in my future.All my guitars are slotheads! I don't even know how to string a paddlehead guitar, never tried... I just love the slotheads! Tom | ||
cliff |
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Joined: March 2002 Posts: 14842 Location: NJ | ". . Jeff W.'s U681 cutaway. AWESOME GUITAR . ." I was gonna suggest the exact same thing . . . | ||
stephent28 |
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Joined: April 2004 Posts: 13303 Location: Latitude 39.56819, Longitude -105.080066 | ". . Jeff W.'s U681 cutaway. AWESOME GUITAR . ." I believe Jeff custom ordered it through Al. | ||
lanaki |
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Joined: October 2006 Posts: 5575 Location: big island | Originally posted by stephent28: yup, my search was in "general". i tried again last evening and got 14 matches. perhaps the servers are not always "with it"? Lanika, When you did the search did you make sure that it was searching in the "general" forum and not one of the others? I just did a search and came up with 241 matches. at any rate, based on the number of posts to this thread already, it seems as if this subject doesn't mind getting re-hashed again and again... speaking of break angles, does anyone remember Framus guitars from Germany? what were they thinking? | ||
Tupperware |
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Joined: January 2005 Posts: 4903 Location: Phoenix AZ | Didn't Framus build the bodies for the Storm Series guitars ? Dave | ||
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Joined: January 2004 Posts: 799 Location: Athens, GA & Gnashville | Originally posted by Tupperware: I thought they were a whole Schaller thing, but I could be wrong. I was told that by Howard Gainer at the time. I wonder where that wiley coyote is now?Didn't Framus build the bodies for the Storm Series guitars ? Dave | ||
lanaki |
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Joined: October 2006 Posts: 5575 Location: big island | in the late 60's, when i was just taking an interest in guitars (i started out in life as a drummer :cool: ), some relative gave me a Framus 12 string guitar. the headstock angled forward instead of rearward. i did not keep the guitar for long. the action was unplayable and it didn't take long for my 12 year old self to figure that out. i began to think the string tension bent the headstock forward until i saw other Framus guitars with the same design. | ||
Tupperware |
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Joined: January 2005 Posts: 4903 Location: Phoenix AZ | Originally posted by Goober: As far as I know the bodies came form Framus and all the hardware came from Schaller.Originally posted by Tupperware: I thought they were a whole Schaller thing, but I could be wrong. I was told that by Howard Gainer at the time. I wonder where that wiley coyote is now? Didn't Framus build the bodies for the Storm Series guitars ? Dave | ||
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Joined: August 2004 Posts: 709 Location: Germany | I think Dave is right. Schaller started in 1945 with repairing radio sets (that was particular important for that time). He had very early contact to American GIs and developed a close friendship to them. As he was an average musician but an excellent technician he wanted to give the music more sound, in his own style: The Schaller hardware. He also produced guitar amps in the 60th and 70th, but never wooden guitar parts. To my knowledge the Storm bodies and necks were made by Framus. The factory was only a few miles from my home - but unfortunately an bankrupcty proceedings was introduced in the mid 70th. Today there is a metal working company in that building. Currently I start organizing an European OFC gathering at the Schaller factory in June or July (the factory is a stone's throw away from my home). Hope to bring some of my virtual friends together there. Karl | ||
Jeff W. |
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Joined: November 2003 Posts: 11039 Location: Earth·SolarSystem·LocalInterstellarCloud·Local Bub | Originally posted by Tupperware: Please, Dave, Please! Let me help you edit this tome. Back to Professor Templeman. He's a gem. I plan to one day assemble all of his most excellent posts and create a reference book for all of us to share. Actually a three volume set: Volume 1 - Guitar Physics and Acoustics Volume 2 - Why I'm Smarter Than Jesus Volume 3 - Lap Steel For Wankers Read on .... Dave ... and FWIW, I think the Original SlotHeads (and subsequent RI's) are Art. | ||
cliff |
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Joined: March 2002 Posts: 14842 Location: NJ | I always thought of mine as an Artistic SoundPump . . . | ||
Tony Calman |
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Joined: August 2003 Posts: 4619 Location: SoCal | Frankly, I like the design of the slothead. Yet, I have the slothead and standard headstocks. I don't care if 12 fret or 14 fret, even the bowl size/non-cutaway/cutaway (although I have found the deep bowl non-cutaway is what I prefer). To me, what is more important is all facets of the guitar combined. Sounds good, plays well, looks good. I started "observing" the OFC in early 2003...up to that time, wood top with rosette was as extreme as I could go. I had bought a slothead Custom Legend 12-str in 1980 that excelled over any other 12-str I had owned or merely played. Although I hadn't played an Elite, bought one off of eBay. Then Woz sold me his Millennium (CVT). Again, hadn't played any of the Adamas models. My first Adamas I (1687), again without being able to play one first. Then, a number of Custom Legend and Collector center holes, Elite style of wood tops (to include two 1537's), Adamas (1681, 1688 12-str, 1685 12-str, four 1687's, 47RI, two SMT's, etc., etc. Every Ovation and Adamas guitar that I have had an opportunity to own or merely play have impressed me in their voice, quality, and beauty. Some with abalone, some beautiful in their simplicity such as the 2005C. As said, a lot of different flavors. As to the Adamas textured top (Adamas I & II, U681T, and the 47RI), you need to play them...hold them, caress them, play them. Whatever headstock, whatever bridge...you will never look at a guitar the same. I had others talk about the Adamas sound and how it should be a textured top...you must play one to understand. I have not lost any respect for my wood tops or the CVT/SMT but I am still in awe of the textured top Adamas. An aside, the 47RI and the Adamas I are exquisite...from the carved bridge to the headstock. The pity is that there are a number of OFC'ers that haven't been able to play an Adamas textured top...hopefully, as we have more regional get-togethers, they will have that chance. | ||
muzza |
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Joined: August 2005 Posts: 3736 Location: Sunshine State, Australia | Originally posted by Tupperware: You mean this one? Jeff W.'s U681 cutaway. AWESOME GUITAR. Yup. That's more like it. But the spangly colour? Is that what makes it sound so good? | ||
FlicKreno aka Solid Top |
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Joined: April 2006 Posts: 2491 Location: Copenhagen Denmark | And No-one mentiones that a Slothead requires certain strings to be wound many times ,in order to avoid contact with the wood,what could/would cause tuning problems,where the general consensus is that, the fewer windings,the better tuning stability...go figure..condensor mics with FET`s or Valve ,Omni or Cardioid , Big Capsule or small cap. ..and the Beat goes on.. ;) Vic | ||
Jeff W. |
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Joined: November 2003 Posts: 11039 Location: Earth·SolarSystem·LocalInterstellarCloud·Local Bub | Originally posted by cliff: Cliff, You make that sound so... dir-tay. I always thought of mine as an Artistic SoundPump . . . hey, Muzzie, for a small re-occurring monthly subscription fee, I can post ya pics of me playing that Adamas, nak'd and wearing matching sparkly red eye shadow. | ||
muzza |
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Joined: August 2005 Posts: 3736 Location: Sunshine State, Australia | That sounds fine Jeff. You've got a deal. You put the subscription directly into my bank account every month (in US$) and you can send me as many photos as ya want, wearin any colour eye shadow ya want, playin any instrument ya want. :p Will you be usin the rope that's in the photo? :eek: Can't accuse us of innuendo - this is blatant! :D | ||
Tupperware |
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Joined: January 2005 Posts: 4903 Location: Phoenix AZ | Originally posted by Enfant Terrible aka V-Elite: That's a design flaw on ovation slots. The angles are wrong. Other companies slots do not have this issue. I could post pics but I'd get blasted. DaveAnd No-one mentiones that a Slothead requires certain strings to be wound many times ,in order to avoid contact with the wood | ||
Capo Guy |
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Joined: December 2004 Posts: 4394 Location: East Tennessee | Dave, Go ahead. I like the look of Martin slotheads. | ||
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Joined: April 2006 Posts: 972 Location: PDX | Originally posted by Tupperware: Actually, i'd be very interested in the comparison photo's. I can lend you my fire fighting gear if you need it. That's a design flaw on ovation slots. The angles are wrong. Other companies slots do not have this issue. I could post pics but I'd get blasted. Dave _____ gh1 | ||
Jason_S |
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Joined: August 2006 Posts: 2804 Location: ranson,wva | martins have the best slothead design and angles hands down.....jason | ||
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