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WHAT MUSICIAN OR BAND HAS INFLUENCED MUSICAL CHANGE THE MOST?

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Steve
Posted 2007-04-13 10:11 AM (#105726 - in reply to #105701)
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In response to the original question...

I always thought the group 'Chicago' dramatically raised the standard of professional pop music. But, what do I know...I never liked the beatles but I did like Glen Campbell...go figure..
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Jeff
Posted 2007-04-13 10:14 AM (#105727 - in reply to #105701)
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I just read through this thread, and I can't tell you how relieved I am to know that I'm not the only one that thinks Mr. Hendrix is one of--if not THE -- most overrated guitarists in history.

Without a doubt, he was an inovator, and a master showman, but the world's greatest guitarist? ...Hardly.
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Beal
Posted 2007-04-13 10:26 AM (#105728 - in reply to #105701)
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The Beatles changed the world.
The Allman Brothers changed me.
I enjoy trying to play anything.
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Slipkid
Posted 2007-04-13 10:39 AM (#105729 - in reply to #105701)
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Like them not, can't be anyone other then George Martin and the Beatles.
Concider the transition from "Meet The Beatles" through "Srg. Pepper" and "Abbey Rd". No one else has taken the art of music so far in such a short time. All the others rode the crest of the wave started by the five members of the Beatles.
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Paul Templeman
Posted 2007-04-13 11:01 AM (#105730 - in reply to #105701)
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I aggree with Miles, there very few if any musicians who have effected real change that has resonated throughout the music industry. For that kind of thing I'd go for for the likes Thomas Edison for the phonograph, Berliner for the gramophone, Les Paul for pioneering sound and sound and later multi-track recording. Leo Fender for the Precision Bass, Beauchamp and Barth for Ricky frying pan and a ton of others. All of those had a major effect on music at a fundamental level. There's tons of others but if it was down to musicians the list would be pretty short and for different reasons.
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cliff
Posted 2007-04-13 11:07 AM (#105731 - in reply to #105701)
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Paul;
When you guys "stay over" after the Tour next month, REMIND me to take you to Edison's lab for a tour. It's only a few miles from my houe & you'll love it . . .
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Paul Templeman
Posted 2007-04-13 11:08 AM (#105732 - in reply to #105701)
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Great idea. Jesus, I am a total Geek.
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cliff
Posted 2007-04-13 11:30 AM (#105733 - in reply to #105701)
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Yer not alone.
I'm fascinated with the place . . .
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stonebobbo
Posted 2007-04-13 11:33 AM (#105734 - in reply to #105701)
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For pure change to industry, I'd offer up Ry Cooder for doing the first digitally recorded album (Bop Till You Drop). Lots of people poo-poo'd it at first, saying it lacked warmth, wasn't pure, etc. Now, everyone and anyone is recording digitally and look where we are today. The impact on everything related to making and distributing music is huge.
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beatlejuice53
Posted 2007-04-13 12:47 PM (#105735 - in reply to #105701)
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There could be a lot said for the Beatles(my own personal choice for "musicians that influenced the industry"). However a lot could also be said about the ones that influenced or preceded them. Chuck Berry, Little Richard etc, etc. One could actually go much further back to see who started making the guitar something other than a strumming box for a yodeling cowboy on a horse. Andrea Segovia comes to my mind. As far as changing the industry my vote would go to Leo Fender.When he came out with the Prec. and Jazz basses, it changed everything. Every style of music.
As far as having the biggest influence on me, I would go with the Beatles(go figure), Clapton, and Kansas.
Bill
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Paul Templeman
Posted 2007-04-13 2:38 PM (#105736 - in reply to #105701)
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Originally posted by stonebobbo:
For pure change to industry, I'd offer up Ry Cooder for doing the first digitally recorded album (Bop Till You Drop). Lots of people poo-poo'd it at first, saying it lacked warmth, wasn't pure, etc. Now, everyone and anyone is recording digitally and look where we are today. The impact on everything related to making and distributing music is huge.
That was the 3M system. So again the credit for "change" should be with the company who originatated the technology, not necessarily the first person to put out an album using it.

If you listen to "Bob Till You Drop" alongside say John Hiatt's "Bring The Family" which was recorded AAD 10 years after "Bop" and compare Cooder's tone on both, BTYD sounds sooooooo lame. Digital recording has come a long way in 30 years.
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Captain Lovehandles
Posted 2007-04-13 3:20 PM (#105737 - in reply to #105701)
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1) I can't believe nobody said Bob Dylan, but I see some other replies that are hard to argue with too. For Prog and Metal, you have to consider Black Sabbath, I think.
2) Loggins & Messina
3) Drivin' n' Cryin'
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Tommy M.
Posted 2007-04-13 3:45 PM (#105738 - in reply to #105701)
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Many of the artists mentioned are great. But, I'm sure that those artists would cite the Beatles as the catalyst for changes in music. You gotta remember the days when the world was waiting for the next Beatle album to come out, to see what direction their music was going. Soon afterwards every band was imitating their recent work. The Beatles were never content to rest on their success. They were constantly trying something new with their music on each progressive album. Which artists does that today? You notice that when the Beatles broke up, the Stones albums stopped being creative. They had no one left to inspire them. I'm a big fan of the Stones, but look at the way they released albums mimicking what the Beatles were producing. Dylan added the message component in Rock songs. Hendrix took guitarists to a new level and the Alman Bros coveted the jam like no other band. Also, Chuck Berry is the father of rock and roll. I guess that covers it all.
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guitarwannabee
Posted 2007-04-13 10:22 PM (#105739 - in reply to #105701)
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Miles I think that you have a valid point but I do think that some bands and musical acts didn't follow that rule of what your manager or promoter wanted such as acts like Alice Cooper that I grew up with . I think they did influence rock & roll quite a bit by being what most considered absolutley crazy at those times.Then after it became accepted some bands like Kiss copied their acts and moved right in to capture their millions of dollars worth of fame. Some bands,musicians,and acts do change the way music has gone .TMHO.GWB.
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Mr. Ovation
Posted 2007-04-14 1:20 AM (#105740 - in reply to #105701)
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gwb, not sure why I'm being singled as other have said the same thing. "Which musician or band has brought about the biggest change or influence on the music industry?" is a much different question than "Which musician or band has brought about the biggest change or influence in music."

Anyway, I agree that "Some bands,musicians,and acts do change the way music has gone"... many in fact.
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Old Man Arthur
Posted 2007-04-14 3:55 AM (#105741 - in reply to #105701)
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GWB-- I remember ol' Alice. When it was totally outrageous and unheard of to be kissing a snake or hanging yourself on stage. Wearing strait-jackets and singing about asylums... And if my memory serves me, when he first started doing that, he didn't have a HUGE stage-show. Just a snake, or a noose, and humongous eyelashes painted clown-style.
Then came the bands with explosions, and flying-saucers.
It became a contest to see who could spend the most money on stage...
The Tubes had a good stage-show, with no special effects.
David Bowie and Lou Reed were just being themselves, Weird.
But they couldn't catch-up to Jim Morrison, and he was just being Jim.
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muzza
Posted 2007-04-14 6:18 AM (#105742 - in reply to #105701)
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1) I'm not knowledgeable enough to comment.
2) Neil Young and the Ozark Mountain Daredevils. (got me started on harp as well) (You could probably throw in CSN&Y and Lynyrd Skynyrd as well)
3) See 2)
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foyle
Posted 2007-04-14 8:03 AM (#105743 - in reply to #105701)
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Didnt Les Paul invent multitrack recording?
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Northcountry
Posted 2007-04-14 8:45 AM (#105744 - in reply to #105701)
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THE BEATLES
YES
LED ZEPPELIN

An All American Boy, totally hooked on British Rock.
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45flint
Posted 2007-04-14 9:06 AM (#105745 - in reply to #105701)
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I am 55 now but I am amazed frankly that the my children listen and enjoy the Beatles as much as I do. Given the musical gap between me and my parents that really says something about the quality of their music.
Steve
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Paul Templeman
Posted 2007-04-15 9:53 AM (#105746 - in reply to #105701)
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Originally posted by foyle:
Didnt Les Paul invent multitrack recording?
Les Paul pioneered sound on sound recording using a pair of (homemade) disc cutting machines. Later, after the introduction of the early Ampex tape machines in the late 1940's he came up with what became known as simul-sync (the ability of a tape machine to record and play simultaneously from the same head) And this was pretty much the foundation of multi-track tape recording
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Old Man Arthur
Posted 2007-04-15 2:38 PM (#105747 - in reply to #105701)
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Originally posted by 45flint:
I am 55 now but I am amazed frankly that the my children listen and enjoy the Beatles as much as I do. Given the musical gap between me and my parents that really says something about the quality of their music.
Steve
Kinda unrelated to The Beatles-- Alice Cooper, actually,
I was at a party, with a bunch of "kids" in their 20's...
And there, buried in the album pile, was "Love It To Death", by Alice Cooper...
I went to put it on, "Not Alice Cooper, he's Lame" was there response.
I played it anyway, and the kids were saying, "Wow, I didn't know they were that Good."
And to be honest, I hadn't heard that album since the '70's, and yeah...
They were pretty good In-The-Day.
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Slipkid
Posted 2007-04-15 2:51 PM (#105748 - in reply to #105701)
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Cobo Hall In Detroit.... Had to be about 1971.
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Yak
Posted 2007-04-15 2:52 PM (#105749 - in reply to #105701)
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Anyone notice how huge of an influence the British have had...

Beatles
Stones
Led Zeppelin
Sabbath
Maiden
Floyd
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Mark in Boise
Posted 2007-04-15 3:10 PM (#105750 - in reply to #105701)
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"18" came out in 1971, when I turned 18. Becoming eligible for the draft (lottery) was too much of a concern to allow me to really relate to that song.
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