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Do people look down on you for playing Ovations?

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juniodude
Posted 2007-04-27 10:02 AM (#103407 - in reply to #103382)
Subject: Re: Do people look down on you for playing Ovations?


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Good to hear all the comments guys.

As to answer an4340 (man, I've got to learn people's names), I live in NJ and mainly I just lead worship at my church. I think this plays a big role into people judging O's because we all started off with $100-$200 guitars. Some of my friends started with Aupplase and it just wasnt as good as other guitars in the $100-200 range..just so shallow and quiet

"But.... "You can't fix stupid."" ..Very true=)

And Alpep, I hope your right=P I never was really into fashion anyways. But I really like the stealth look of the black Ovation 1778T..it looks really sweet.
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Nils
Posted 2007-04-27 10:32 AM (#103408 - in reply to #103382)
Subject: Re: Do people look down on you for playing Ovations?


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Originally posted by Jason_S:
ive only had one person sayany thing bad to me about the playing of ovations that was a drummer...so go figure..what does a drummer know anyhow??? jason
Hmm, ask him this one-

What do you call a person that is always hanging around with musicians?

A drummer.
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cliff
Posted 2007-04-27 10:39 AM (#103409 - in reply to #103382)
Subject: Re: Do people look down on you for playing Ovations?


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On the contrary.

I OFTEN have guys at gigs come up and comment positively on my Ovations, especially when they three (sometimes four) of 'em gathered t'gether on stands . . .

Now, it very well could be that they see the roundbacks, equate them as Ovations, and just want to appear "knowledgeable" either to myself, or their cohorts, but I'll often get a "wow! . . those are some nice Ovations!" comment.

I played at an OpenMic at a local place a while ago.
When it was my turn, the guy running it offered up his Taylor SomethingOrOther. I declined and pulled the LongNeck out of it's case.
"Oh, . . it's one of THOSE" he said disparagingly (assuming it was a Celebrity).

He hands me his auxiliary guitar cord, and I plug in. Sounded like sh!t. The notes were distorted, and it was laden with static and hum.

I asked him for another cord.
His response was that it wasn't the cord, but that ". . Ovation pre-amps never WERE any good . . use Taylor . ."

When he walked over t'get the guitar, I yanked out the cord, switched off the 2nd microphone, plugged that cord into my XLR jack and hit an open E (really "D") chord.
". . Whoa!! . . . whadd'ya DO??? . ."

I just shrugged and played stupid (which isn't hard t'do).
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Mark in Boise
Posted 2007-04-27 10:51 AM (#103410 - in reply to #103382)
Subject: Re: Do people look down on you for playing Ovations?


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The worst I've got is "I don't like them because they slide off my leg." I tell them they should raise their leg.
A friend of mine bought a Taylor because it was the best sounding guitar to him and his wife. That's fine for them. At the time I probably had 6 very different sounding Ovations for the same price as his one Taylor and I'll bet he'd have a tough time picking his Taylor over my 1537 in a blind test. Ovations are great guitars for the money. Learn to play it like a madman and you'll never worry about it.
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Tupperware
Posted 2007-04-27 10:51 AM (#103411 - in reply to #103382)
Subject: Re: Do people look down on you for playing Ovations?


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That's the beauty of a ukulele. Most people assume you play it 'cuz you can't afford a whole guitar and they have too much sympathy to pick on a poor kid.

Dave
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ProfessorBB
Posted 2007-04-27 11:50 AM (#103412 - in reply to #103382)
Subject: Re: Do people look down on you for playing Ovations?



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I don't recall anybody ever saying anything derogatory about an Ovation I was playing. That's one of the advantages of hanging out with non-musicians who know nothing about guitars. I'm playing a three hour pubic solo gig next Friday and plan to use the Tak EF75J exclusively. I wonder if anybody will comment on it?
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fillhixx
Posted 2007-04-27 11:51 AM (#103413 - in reply to #103382)
Subject: Re: Do people look down on you for playing Ovations?



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Originally posted by moody, p.i.:
I don't spend any time worrying about what other people are thinking....
So how do you find the skips? Ouija board?
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Mark in Boise
Posted 2007-04-27 12:07 PM (#103414 - in reply to #103382)
Subject: Re: Do people look down on you for playing Ovations?


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Ovations were fashionable in the 70s, when I got my first one, but "traditionalists" didn't like "plastic" backs. Bell bottoms and miniskirts were fashionable, too. Ovation has increased its presence dramatically since then, and bell bottoms have come back. The other day I saw the shortest miniskirt ever. Good things never go out of fashion.
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juniodude
Posted 2007-04-27 12:10 PM (#103415 - in reply to #103382)
Subject: Re: Do people look down on you for playing Ovations?


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I just shrugged and played stupid (which isn't hard t'do).----the story of my life
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guitarmanrrg
Posted 2007-04-27 1:01 PM (#103416 - in reply to #103382)
Subject: Re: Do people look down on you for playing Ovations?


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When they give me the money to buy the guitar, then I'll listen to them! :p
There are a bunch of people that do look at the logo on the headstock which is really silly. I own Larrivees, Seagulls, Epiphones and Ovation and each guitar brings its own flavor to the mix.
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aceboympk
Posted 2007-04-27 2:59 PM (#103417 - in reply to #103382)
Subject: Re: Do people look down on you for playing Ovations?


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I started playing about 4 years ago. I have a neighbor who downgraded my Ovation Collectors. I sold it because I didn't know better. Now I'm looking for one.

I don't know very much about Ovations, but I do know that I miss the 2003 Collectors I bought from Musicians Friend for $675. Only may have been beaten by the Martin JC-16GTE I repaced it with for the same price.

But, I'd take either of them back in a heartbeat. And, I own one of the best bargains in the history of guitars: Tak EF75S.

There's usually some ignorant fool who displays their limited knowledge when they talk negatively about a guitar.

I don't care what type of guitar it is as long as any of the guitarists I respect can pick it up and make it sound good. If they can do it, it ain't the guitar's fault someone else can't.

Regards,
Mark
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Beggin
Posted 2007-04-27 3:14 PM (#103418 - in reply to #103382)
Subject: Re: Do people look down on you for playing Ovations?


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My son's musician friends used to come by my house and make fun of my O's when they were in a group. But, when they come by themselves they can't wait to play them plugged in (since that's all they know).

Just let the critics play one, most of them probably haven't. They may change their minds, if not, they won't change mine.
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Grif
Posted 2007-04-27 3:22 PM (#103419 - in reply to #103382)
Subject: Re: Do people look down on you for playing Ovations?


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BegginJM hit it on the head. Most of the O critics haven't even picked one up, let alone played one. But they'll tell you "yeah Ovations sound thin or muffled" or some other crap that some other lemming told them.

"Let the Music Do the Talkin"
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stephent28
Posted 2007-04-27 6:03 PM (#103420 - in reply to #103382)
Subject: Re: Do people look down on you for playing Ovations?



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Originally posted by noah:
"stephenT28 made something close to this statement; if it looks good, feels good, sounds good, and speaks to me..."

wasn't he describing dates back in college?
WOW....miss a couple days on the board because I am actually working and look at the abuse I get! :rolleyes:
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Michael Joseph Kramer
Posted 2007-04-27 6:13 PM (#103421 - in reply to #103382)
Subject: Re: Do people look down on you for playing Ovations?


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I hate people that play Carlo Robelli guitars. The guitars are FINE.. it's the people I despise... they get all cocky. Hahahahahahaa!

Sorry.. had to goof! God bless us all....
Everyone....

MJK
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Yak
Posted 2007-04-27 6:19 PM (#103422 - in reply to #103382)
Subject: Re: Do people look down on you for playing Ovations?


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Hey... That kinda sounds like your average BMW driver. :-)
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Northcountry
Posted 2007-04-27 8:07 PM (#103423 - in reply to #103382)
Subject: Re: Do people look down on you for playing Ovations?
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I do a Solo thing now along with a Duo when it is requested and am working on a Trio where I play Bass. The few solo gigs, that I take to help my Partner who does this stuff for a living and needs me to help cover some gigs for him, are a lot of fun. I bring the three Adamas Cannons with me and play music from Zep, Pink Floyd, Beatles, Young, CSN, Dire Straits, Supertramp, Petty, Kenny Loggins, America and even a Yes medley I am enlarging all the time and a Who medley. I have only played out so far "solo" 5 times. Each time I have had more than one conversation about my guitars. Always pleasant and always the comments are along the lines of total amazement! I am pretty sure I have sold at least one or two Ovations now...... These guitars are so beautiful and still so completely different than anything else out there they get attention. The sound is second to none for me. Never had one bad comment yet. Now for the Duo that I have done now about 30 times or so I am always getting the same kind of people talking to me about the Ovations. Aaron (my partner) has two beautiful and fairly expensive Taylor 815's I personally love the way they sound and play but he very rarely gets comments on his guitars but he makes up for it by being the best dam guitarist I have ever worked with anywhere. His comments are usually from people signing up for guitar lessons. But his guitars are just guitars to the audience. Everyone likes my singing and the appreciate my being able to fill out Aaron's guitar work but it is the Ovations themselves that get the most attention for me. Now Aaron attracts a lot of local musicians as well because of his talents and I have been told by a few guys who play that the ovations sound better than they were told they did. Here it is 2007 and people who are musicians are still listening to the "Ovations are bad sounding Crappy Plastic Guitars Bullshit" insted of trying them out. They obviously do not want to deal with the opinions of other musicians........Whimps......! I am totally amazed that the multihole design of these guitars that has been a round since the 70's is still something a lot of people have never seen. ?? I don't get it. By the way Aaron used to be a real traditionalist about acoustic guitars but these Adamas's have brought him around. He now respects, at least, the Higher end Ovations for what they are.........great great american made guitars!
Enjoy

Randy
!
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Styll
Posted 2007-04-27 8:33 PM (#103424 - in reply to #103382)
Subject: Re: Do people look down on you for playing Ovations?


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Nope...not at all.
In fact its always a topic of conversation.

I am very surprised to see how many know and dont know what kind of guitars they are. :cool:

I get quite the respone on how sweet they sound live.
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FlicKreno aka Solid Top
Posted 2007-04-27 8:37 PM (#103425 - in reply to #103382)
Subject: Re: Do people look down on you for playing Ovations?


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NORTHCOUNTRY Could n`t be more Right about this,overhere ,many Illiterates have never seen a multi-hole before,and at times they are " amazed" that they sound "like real guitars"...NORTH ,I could not have put it better myself...
( quoting NORTH ).." Here it is 2007 and people who are musicians are still listening to the "Ovations are bad sounding Crappy Plastic Guitars Bullshit" insted of trying them out." ..
Go Figure....

Vic :cool:
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richardd
Posted 2007-04-27 9:09 PM (#103426 - in reply to #103382)
Subject: Re: Do people look down on you for playing Ovations?


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I years past I must say it used to annoy and perhaps even intimidate me a little when people would look down their nose at my Ovations.

....I have since learned that most people don't know what they're talking about when it comes to Ovations. Most have never played more than one or two and the rest approach playing one with the preconception that it couldn't possibly sound good anyway.

Now days I couldn't care less. I'll stack my 47RI up against most anything.
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Mark in Boise
Posted 2007-04-27 11:00 PM (#103427 - in reply to #103382)
Subject: Re: Do people look down on you for playing Ovations?


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When you live down under, Richard, everyone looks down on you no matter what guitar you play.
Stephen, that will teach you to work.
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nonis
Posted 2007-04-28 1:49 AM (#103428 - in reply to #103382)
Subject: Re: Do people look down on you for playing Ovations?


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I did a presentation on how music relates to math for an easy grade on a math project this year. It was extremely confusing and I'm pretty sure it just went by their heads.

Then I played Bramfatura by Joey Eppard, since I had my 1778t and they would've asked me to play something. It's a crazy song and I can play it all but a couple parts I play sort of wrong.

Anyway, after all that, one girl raised her hand and I thought she was going to ask a question or tell me that I suck at playing, but she said "I like your guitar."
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muzza
Posted 2007-04-28 2:21 AM (#103429 - in reply to #103382)
Subject: Re: Do people look down on you for playing Ovations?



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Originally posted by ProfessorBB:
I'm playing a three hour pubic solo gig next Friday ...
"pubic"!! Try and keep it on topic, Prof. :D
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Jewel's Mom a/k/a Joisey Goil #1
Posted 2007-04-28 5:14 AM (#103430 - in reply to #103382)
Subject: Re: Do people look down on you for playing Ovations?


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My occasional times of playing out is bluegrass, with a group my husband helped start. Since I can't play lead on guitar, I don't get much attention. But, since Jewel is blingy (she's a Custom Elite LX) she gets a bit of attention just based on her looks; so, I always offer a chance to play her, and the main comments she gets are, "I can't believe how easy it is to play," "This has such great action," "How much did you pay for it?" (And while they're noodling around on her, I'm trying out theirs--and I hardly ever find one that plays as easily as she does.) I don't know if anyone's bought an O because of it, but Jewel has changed some perceptions.

--Karen
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moody, p.i.
Posted 2007-04-28 10:13 AM (#103431 - in reply to #103382)
Subject: Re: Do people look down on you for playing Ovations?


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I was kinda surprised that last week. I walked into my local GC (in Lake Forest for you local folk) and ended up talking with a sales guy named Simon. The 1627 RI had sold and we were talking about what a good guitar it is. He's owned Ovations in the past. I was telling him about the OFC guitar. He actually requested that when I get it, I bring it in so he can play it! We're going to a/b it against the rest of the store.....

Somebody in a GC who had an appreciation for Ovations. Can the end of the world be far behind?
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