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Location: Copenhagen Denmark | ..No-one wants to tell me..??!....is it "We Shall Overcome"..?
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Location: Omaha, NE | Originally posted by Enfant Terrible aka V-Elite:
What Song is that people are talkin`about..?? "Ohio" by Crosby, Stills and Nash. |
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Location: cincinnati, ohio | "Ohio," by Neil Young, recorded as a single by Crosby, Stills, Nash & Young in response to the fatal shooting of four college students by National Guardsmen at Kent State University in Ohio. It was included on the compilation CD "So Far," by CSNY.
This tab from www.hyperrust.org is the best acoustic tab I've seen for the song.
Chords/Tabulature for
Ohio
Chords:
D5 D F C(I) C(II) Gm7(I) Gm7(II)
D|---0-----0------x-----x-----x------3------0----|
B|---3-----10-----1-----1-----8------3------3----|
G|---2-----0------2-----0-----0------3------0----|
D|---0-----12-----3-----2-----10-----3------0----|
A|---0-----x------x-----3-----x------5------5----|
D|---0-----12-----x-----x-----10-----5------5----|
Main riff:
D5 F C(I) D5 F C(I)
D|-------------------------|-------------------------|
B|--3----3--3--------------|--3----3--3--------------|
G|--0h2--2--0-----0--------|--0h2--2--0-----0--------|
D|-------------3--------0--|-------------3-----------|
A|-------------------3-----|-------------------3-----|
D|-------------------------|-------------------------|
Verse:
D5 F C(I)
Tin soldiers and Nixon coming,
D5 F C(I)
We're finally on our own
D5 F C(I)
This Summer I hear them drumming,
D5 F C(I)
Four dead in Ohio
Chorus:
Gm7(I) C(I)
Gotta get down to it, soldiers are cutting us down
Gm7(II) C(II)
Should have been done long ago
Gm7(I) C(I)
What if you knew her and, found her dead on the ground
Gm7(II) C(II)
How can you run when you know?
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(main riff)
Verse:
La la la la, la la, la la
La la la la, la la, la
La la la la, la la, la la
La la la la, la la, la
Chorus
Repeat Verse 1
repeating last line as often as you feel happy with.
Finish on D5 |
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Location: closely held secret | My apologies, Miles, Al... I can't let this one go unopposed. Delete my post, delete the thread, do what you must.
Originally posted by Old Man Arthur:
We weren't protesting the Troops! We we SUPPORTING them. We were protesting the War! We just wanted everybody Home! Either win the War, or Come Home! It was a Civil War, that we had no business interfering in. (Sound Familiar?)
We welcomed the vets home, and tried to help them out when they hit the dirt over a backfire or a jack-hammer. They are our Brothers! That explains the egg throwing, spitting and cries of 'baby killers' that greeted our soldiers returning from Vietnam. Such as my brother. Believe me, they didn't feel supported. The same way today's soldiers don't feel supported by today's 'concerned' protesters.
Originally posted by Old Man Arthur:
If there was a draft today, this war would be over!
An All-Volunteer Army means that only the Poor, and Career Military go. (And sub-contractors, who make more money than our troops!)
The Rich-F@cks are just watching their Haliburton stock go up. “You know, education, if you make the most of it, if you study hard and do your homework, and you make an effort to be smart, uh, you can do well. If you don’t you get stuck in Iraq.”
- Senator John Kerry Now THAT's what I call support! Our soldiers are not only baby killers, they're idiots as well. How friggin hypocritical can you get. Some of our finest young men and women are putting their lives on the line every hour, and you arrogantly insult and demean them??
Originally posted by Old Man Arthur:
Either win the War, or Come Home! It was a Civil War, that we had no business interfering in. (Sound Familiar?) You don't know your history. We were WINNING the war... until the Democrats stirred up the radicals into forming protests to embarrass the Republicans. They 'defunded' our troops (as they would do today, but don't have the guts to), smeared them unjustly in the press, leaving them no alternative but to withdraw. Does that sound familiar?
By the way, certain Demos, including Kerry, managed to turn huge profits by negotiating oil deals with the North Vietnamese government after the war... Haliburton could take lessons from them.
It wasn't a civil war, any more than Iraq is. Communist China was the primary agent behind the North Vietnamese aggression.
Originally posted by Old Man Arthur:
Add on-- BTW I hear Vietnam is doing just fine since we left. Sure. Thirty years later.
Following the fall of Saigon more than one million South Vietnamese were either massacred or thrown into prison (euphemistically called “re-education camps”), where many were tortured and starved to death. Often their only crime was owning property or allowing a family member to leave the country.
Didn't hear about that on CBS, did ya?
Sorry, OMA. You've been drinking the kool-aid too long. Start thinking for yourself and try getting your information from somewhere other than the news re-mixers. You might be surprised at what's 'really' going on in the world.
In the meantime please stop insulting people who DO have the guts (which you, or I, for that matter didn't show when we had the chance) to step up and protect our country. |
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Location: Bluffton, SC | ...click... |
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Location: Campbell River, British Columbia |  \]
Oh goody!
Americans fighting over songs written by Canadians!
What will it be next?
The Night They Drove Old Dixue Down?
or If I Had A Rocket Launcher?
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Location: NJ | fill;
Can y'work the "Wreck of the Edmund Fitzgerald" into an Al-Qaida plot?? |
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Location: Omaha, NE | These events are really just vessels that we fill with our own ideas of how things are and how things ought to be.
I always wondered why there weren't any popular songs written about Ruby Ridge. |
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Location: Campbell River, British Columbia | Originally posted by cliff:
"Wreck of the Edmund Fitzgerald" Way to wreck a good mood, Cliff!
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Location: SoCal | Wabbit, well said.
For the record, I joined the Marines 4/04/68. |
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Location: closely held secret | Originally posted by Tony Calman:
For the record, I joined the Marines 4/04/68. And for that I thank you, Tony. |
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Location: Copenhagen Denmark | Now WABBIT,I`m Surprised about your reaction,there`s No glory in war,soldiers are No romantic poets,and many have been killed in war,soldiers and civilians alike,I have had Soldier-friends who served there(Vietnam),those ,who were lucky enough to survive the guns and came back,only to perish later of agent orange,None of them thought of themselves as "Heroes",and as far as being treated badly,well ,they all had a few words to say about treatment by the government,Bernie told me about getting a "nine-month tuition offer" on a GI bill,and that would be it,then He was on his own,and.. USA had lost-out in Vietnam,does not really matter who was behind it,and I do not see anybody "winning" in Iraq,...But...I Do See a Lot of Hardship looming on the horizon,in my Opinion ,Arthur was not "attacking" any-one,merely described a rotten situation,now I understand that you are busy ,and work hard ,but if you can take a moment to watch : "the Killing Fields"....or..."Full Metal Jacket"...those are epics that are rather true to reality,as being pointed out by Marines that I`ve known Personally,yes,have...for most have buckled under due to....anyway Arthur is not the culprit ..
the Battle is Not here...
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Location: Copenhagen Denmark | Thank you for the Song/Tab , Rick,I appreciate it :)
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Location: SoCal | "can take a moment to watch..."Full Metal Jacket".
Really enjoy the first 45 min or so, watched it again last night...hard ass DI which former DI R.Lee Ermey does so well.
That was not a time of peace and love, it was a time of anarchy. I sat in Univ. of Oregon classes having to study the writing of Nguyen Sinh Cung (Ho Chi Minh) and Mao Zedong (Tse-tung). And that was just in English Composition. It wasn't until years later (1973) when I took a grad class (War & Civilization) where we had one Marine (me), two Australian Army Officers, four Royal Marines, a former Ambassador, and six former flower children (one of which we found out later was a former member of the Weathermen). Facts were on the table, not slogans.
As now, this wasn't an isolated conflict...USSR and Chinese pilots and advisors, as well as equipment.
Interesting, at least to me, is that the most outspoken were those with the least facts and didn't vote. They loved challenging military wives and screaming at them about their husbands being baby killers. Couple instances of where a couple of Marines came nearby, they just crawled away. Four accosted my wife at church.
Where were the liberals - didn't hear them protesting the treatment of Vietnamese, Cambodian, and Laotian who were being slaughtered?
UCSD still has the Che Guevara Cafe.
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Location: closely held secret | Vic, I really mean nothing personal here, but please don't use those condescending tones to tell me I should watch movies so I can see what reality was. I had a brother there for 16 months, and he described it all to clearly for me. Had the draft not been canceled, I would have shortly found out for myself.
We didn't 'lose-out' in Vietnam, we were sold out - and it's happening again.
Originally posted by Enfant Terrible aka V-Elite:
I do not see anybody "winning" in Iraq,...But...I Do See a Lot of Hardship looming on the horizon Damn right. If we don't fight them there, we'll be fighting them here. But since my 'here' is not your 'here', I can see why you might not be as concerned. |
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Location: Copenhagen Denmark | WABBIT,I do Not Mean to be Condescending,and I do APOLOGIZE to You and Tony for coming across as such,I was Surprised for you being ,can I say " agressive"...?!..I know you ( here on the board ) as a rather intelligent person,..and I am Indignified to hear about Tony`s wife being acosted by COWARDS !!..WABBIT,overhere the situation is rather Unpleasant,Danish Military Is "Overthere" with American Troops,and ,yes, BodyBags Have Arrived in Danmark,People have thrown Molotov`s at the cops,Ethnic Clashes have ensued,I just pointed out those movies,for those ,who knew of those horrors Firsthand, told me,that those films depicted reality, as the reality that they had witnessed ,that`s all . :)
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Location: closely held secret | My apologies as well, Vic, and my condolences for the countrymen you've lost. |
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Location: Blue Ridge Mountains | Tony, I joined the Marines in Dec. 71 after my draft number was 106 and the Army wanted me...I was an air traffic controller and flew with search and rescue...Lost many good friends. It took me until 1984 to be able to visit the Wall...one of the most moving things I ever encountered...I wrote a song...a true story of one of the 58,350+ names on the Wall named Robbie; we grew up near each other...I'll sing it at the Tour/Jam in CT. Took me awhile to deal with everything from the 60's/70's...Like Iraq, we had booby traps/mines to deal with there as well. My heart goes out to the Vets of Iraq...
"A Picture Paints a Thousand Words but Some Refuse to Pay Attention!" |
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| Who's Edmund Fitzgerald, and how did he stop a terrorists plot? !
I need to know.
Hey could type nasty words in this thread because it ain't gonna be here much longer.
Ohio was and still is simply a song about an event that is a historical fact.
Anyones beliefs about that war or any war are mute.
The point is there are NO qualified historians who do not completely agree the national guard acted improperly that day and those, young, protesting americans died.
No matter what side of the argument you were on back then or now this incident is what it was....Tragic.....
CSN & Y (written by Young if I remember right)simply put it to music.
The song is great!
Like my Dad always told me; to "Forgive and Forget" is not wise............. we should "always TRY and forgive" this is humanity at it's finest but "NEVER FORGET" this is history. And it's record can be used to help us all to learn from and, hopefully, not repeat our mistakes!
Ohio is history in music. Play it loud and teach while you entertain!
Wow I did a rant! Kewel! |
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Location: Simpsonville, SC | Mike,
Thanks for your always calm responses in heated matters. I hope that you will sing your song at the Blue Ridge get together too. I look forward to meeting you and your wife.
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Location: Keepin' It Weird in Portland, OR | Gee fellas... I didn't mean to piss Everybody off! :eek:
Politics, Religion and Sports... Start an argument everytime!
[and whether Taks are good for kindling]
Fillhixx-- "If I Had A Rocket Launcher" is a GOOD song!
Hadn't thought of it for awhile. Now I gotta look that up... |
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Location: Copenhagen Denmark | It was a Civilised Conversation among Civilised Men ,in an Uncivilised World....was that with a Z ??
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Location: Keepin' It Weird in Portland, OR | OMA Quoting self---
[Fillhixx-- "If I Had A Rocket Launcher" is a GOOD song!
Hadn't thought of it for awhile. Now I gotta look that up...]
Oooh, Oooh I found it! :cool:
I don't believe in guarded borders and I don't believe in hate
I don't believe in generals or their stinking torture states
And when I talk with the survivors of things too sickening to relate
If I had a rocket launcher
If I had a rocket launcher
If I had a rocket launcher
I would retaliate |
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Location: Campbell River, British Columbia | Originally posted by Old Man Arthur:
I would retaliate Danged peaceniks, eh?
;)
Best song ever on the subject
Look Me Up After The War
John Ims
(She's In Love With The Boy)
He played it at a seminar I attended.
Powerful stuff, but I can't find a link or lyrics.... |
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Location: NJ | I am so ready to close this thread.....
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FOUR DEAD IN OHIO
