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Old Man Arthur
Posted 2007-05-06 8:55 PM (#101736 - in reply to #101711)
Subject: Re: why collection?



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Location: Keepin' It Weird in Portland, OR
I bought my Pseudo-Strat, with amp, for $99, cuz I know a few chords, and I wanted to remember how to play House of the Rising Sun before I was 50...
I kept trying to play a "clean" sound, but that weren't working, so I got a cheap wood-box.
I saw an Ultra, was reminded of Ovations, so I got the 4861...
I wanted a tuner, so I got the GC057.
I decided that I wanted a cheap 12-String, so I got a good non-O...
I wanted humbuckers, so I got the Silvertone Rockit Phony SG.
I wanted a REAL USO, so I got the 1621.
I wanted epaulets, but not another SSB, so I got the CC44...

See, everything has a reason! :p

But I gotta bite my lip, when I see some of the guitars going by...
I have eight guitars in a studio apartment. And I can only play one at a time. I am considering passing on the Johnson and one electric to people who need them. I don't use them, plus I would have more room for something pretty.
Also, Helping out people is Good Karma.
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FlicKreno aka Solid Top
Posted 2007-05-06 9:20 PM (#101737 - in reply to #101711)
Subject: Re: why collection?


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( Q ) " I pick up each of my guitars and think, gee, if I had to live with just this one, I'd be fine with that (with the exception of my old Legend... that guitar really does sound like crap)."

That`s an interesting point of view , my Legend 1617 is the "Senior" in my stable,and with Martin 12-54`s the one that resembles a Dreadnought most,here I would like to quote CWK :

"Oh there's a definate answer, everybody has one!"

..it seems to me that at times the "reviews" of an instrument are based very loosely,..I miss a few points..what strings are mounted and How Old are they ??..strings have to be straight ,that takes a while ,has the TOP "settled in", a Solid Top takes several years to open up,and ,I would say,that What Type of Music is being played on it could be a Decisive Factor on an eventual Verdict,fast note by note playing,may require a "behaviour" different than "slow strum",and have you noticed that at certain Chords,a Guitar will "Ring forever" ,but at other Chords it will nearly Stop right away ..Now this would have a tremendous Impact on a persons perception of How it Sounds,I was/am contemplating on "mapping" my guitars,( where they "ring out"...where "mellow sounding" )..but Oh.....different strings have Impact too....I`ve thrown scriblings away..made notes again..threw them away..So listening to fellow pickers/strummers opinions give me a hint or two,after all,there has to be a reason why certain Guitarmodels are cherished by many..

PS I do Respect your opinion Moody,I just do n`t understand your remark on that 1617 :)

Vic
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gh1
Posted 2007-05-06 9:23 PM (#101738 - in reply to #101711)
Subject: Re: why collection?


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For me it's two things --

First; the search for the personal definition of THE one. It plays well, looks great, and has a great tone. Not there yet so ......

Second; it's more about tone than just another guitar. No acoustic will fill the tone slot of an electric and visa versa. In each of those two broad categories there is different tones.

I suspect when i find what i'm looking for in each category i'll sell the rest and have just two to four guitars. And an Ovation may or may not be in there --- who knows. I'll know it when i hear it.

_____
gh1
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Jewel's Mom a/k/a Joisey Goil #1
Posted 2007-05-06 9:28 PM (#101739 - in reply to #101711)
Subject: Re: why collection?


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Location: Budd Lake, NJ
Collection? Depending on the standard, probably not....the size of the stable is a bit smaller right now. Gertrude (1111-4) because she's a permanent member of the family; Jewel (the Princess, CE868LX-4) because my shoulder needed a shallow bowl; Jazzey (the Tornado) for the effects stuff; Blanca (the Viper) for rock stuff; a Guild for the rare times I crave the old wood sound; the Steinberger for thumpin' bass; a few assorted bluegrass things including the dreaded banjo; and a truly dead classical guitar for show. Are there things I'd like to add to the stable? Of course. And maybe down the road......I guess, though, I should just be thankful to have the nice ones that I do. After all, one guitar makes you rich if you live somewhere where no one has one.

--Karen
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alpep
Posted 2007-05-07 7:19 AM (#101740 - in reply to #101711)
Subject: Re: why collection?


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I had no way to answer this question until yesterday.

I went to a communion party for my cousin's kid and another cousin's kid asked me about playing guitar. He is 14. He asked me if it was fun. My response was that I have been playing since I was in 2nd grade and nothing in my life gives me more pleasure. I can pick up a guitar zone out on all my worries and problems and just get lost in the music that I make.

as a result the instruments that I own that help me achieve this goal are vital to my "therapy".

damn think I can write these off?
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ProfessorBB
Posted 2007-05-07 9:16 AM (#101741 - in reply to #101711)
Subject: Re: why collection?



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Although most of mine are playable, I really only play maybe six of them regularly. The remainder are always displayed in my music room and I really enjoy just looking at them. Like Al, I get lost in my own music and the ambiance of the music room contributes to the experience.
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Omaha
Posted 2007-05-07 9:23 AM (#101742 - in reply to #101711)
Subject: Re: why collection?


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Originally posted by Mark in Boise:
A collection to me implies some element of uselessness. I try to have what I "need", which opens up another debate, "How many guitars do you need?"
Over the years, at two different performances, I've seen both sides of that.

Back in the early 1980's, I saw Eric Clapton playing at the Omaha Civic Auditorium. It was a fantastic show...the crowd was totally into it and he was on fire. Played at least two hours, plus five or six encores, and never switched guitars once. Same strat the whole way through.

A few years ago, we saw Tom Petty and the Heartbreakers over at the Mid America Center. Our seats were on the left side of the stage, and we had a perfect view of the roadies as they worked. Both Petty and Mike Campbell switched guitars between every single song. They had racks and racks of them lined up, and numerous guys pulling them down, tuning them up, and running them on stage for each song. It was really pretty impressive. They had it to such a degree of fluidity that it wasn't distracting unless you looked for it.

Other than switching between acoustic and electric, I don't swap guitars. But then again I don't have a pack of roadies bringing them to me either...could have used them on Saturday night. During the second set, the battery on my Taylor died (dumb mistake...should have put in the fresh ones before the show), so I switched to the electric....and promptly broke a string. Good grief.
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brainslag
Posted 2007-05-07 10:34 AM (#101743 - in reply to #101711)
Subject: Re: why collection?


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Originally posted by Mr. Ovation:
I have no idea what you guys are talking about.
Riiiight... Let me help your problem by taking that curly maple V.III off your hands :D
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MWoody
Posted 2007-05-07 10:34 AM (#101744 - in reply to #101711)
Subject: Re: why collection?



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I prefer the term "Arsenal".
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Elliot Meldoy
Posted 2007-05-07 10:38 AM (#101745 - in reply to #101711)
Subject: Re: why collection?
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I don't see a problem....
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FlicKreno aka Solid Top
Posted 2007-05-07 10:39 AM (#101746 - in reply to #101711)
Subject: Re: why collection?


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( Q ) "I prefer the term "Arsenal".

...YUP !!....

Vic :cool:
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fillhixx
Posted 2007-05-07 12:03 PM (#101747 - in reply to #101711)
Subject: Re: why collection?



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Never own more guitars than have interior wall space for hangers!

How's that for a rule of thumb?
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ProfessorBB
Posted 2007-05-07 12:14 PM (#101748 - in reply to #101711)
Subject: Re: why collection?



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Originally posted by fillhixx:
Never own more guitars than have interior wall space for hangers! How's that for a rule of thumb?
Good for a start, but I've recently discovered that they also hang very conveniently off the ceiling as well.
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fillhixx
Posted 2007-05-07 12:32 PM (#101749 - in reply to #101711)
Subject: Re: why collection?



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Bong! Doh! Chung! Doh! Krang! Doh! Jzzzt! Doh! Chong! Doh!
(the sound of walking through the music room.....)
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Mark in Boise
Posted 2007-05-07 1:30 PM (#101750 - in reply to #101711)
Subject: Re: why collection?


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I'm with Al and Prof. Playing is therapy. I've still got a couple more walls in the "music room", but I'd have to move some exercise equipment that gets used less than the guitars do. SWMBO wants a smaller house and I'm afraid the music room will get left out in any move.
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Mr. Ovation
Posted 2007-05-07 2:48 PM (#101751 - in reply to #101711)
Subject: Re: why collection?


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I still have no idea what you guys are talking about.

This is a shot of one of my old storage areas at the studio in Maryland.

It's hard to tell in this picture, but most all the ones that are standing are stacked two deep. Yes they are all Ovations. Yes they all have guitars in them, and no that ain't all of 'em, only about two thirds (60ish).

http://www.baronaudio.com/images/guitars.jpg
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Beal
Posted 2007-05-07 3:12 PM (#101752 - in reply to #101711)
Subject: Re: why collection?



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fillhixx, You'd love the music room here. When the dog barks they all echo it. Imagine 10 Nationals and 10 more acoustics all going on the same woof.
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cliff
Posted 2007-05-07 3:25 PM (#101753 - in reply to #101711)
Subject: Re: why collection?


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What's REALLY cool is when y'play one of the Nationals at a fairly decent volume and y'start getting sympathetic resonance from some of the others . . . .
(but only when the sun's shining on 'em)
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fillhixx
Posted 2007-05-07 3:48 PM (#101754 - in reply to #101711)
Subject: Re: why collection?



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Okay, here's the plan.
We tune all CWK2's guitars to an open E. Jam some hillbilly/African/blues on a banjo, upright bass, and a hooter,

turn on the recorder and see what happens after the howling dogs calm down!

Musicaly, I mean.
and after we pry Cliff off the ceiling.
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Mark in Boise
Posted 2007-05-07 7:53 PM (#101755 - in reply to #101711)
Subject: Re: why collection?


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Miles may be the only one who really has too many guitars. I just have a shirt that says a man can't have too many guitars. I have too many shirts.
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Beal
Posted 2007-05-07 9:05 PM (#101756 - in reply to #101711)
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Who gets to play the Hooters?
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beatlejuice53
Posted 2007-05-07 10:26 PM (#101757 - in reply to #101711)
Subject: Re: why collection?


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Miles' herd makes mine look rather small. I only have 59 (26 basses and 34 guitars). Yea, I know that adds up to 60. I have a doubleneck (guitar/bass)....it's a guitar and a bass but only counts as one. The wall hanger idea doesn't work too good for me. Eight of my "arsenal" are headless or headsless. Even though by most standards I have a rather large collection, i have never concidered myself a collector. It has to be something I really want, like, or just too good of a deal to pass up for me to buy something. If I buy a guitar or bass and don't like it, I don't keep it. Make any sense? Or should I still seek medical attention?
Bill
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Beggin
Posted 2007-05-07 10:46 PM (#101758 - in reply to #101711)
Subject: Re: why collection?


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BeatleJ,

I think it may be too late for medical attention..however an open house to let us play them all might be appropriate.
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fillhixx
Posted 2007-05-08 1:45 AM (#101759 - in reply to #101711)
Subject: Re: why collection?



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Originally posted by cwk2:
Who gets to play the Hooters?
Whoever has the warmest hands, usually.
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Grif
Posted 2007-05-08 1:52 AM (#101760 - in reply to #101711)
Subject: Re: why collection?


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Beatlejuice, anyone who can play a different guitar every week of the year, and still have 8 leftover, I think can call themselves a collector!

Wow!
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