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PEZ
Posted 2007-09-15 1:10 PM (#81780 - in reply to #81755)
Subject: Re: auto zoned



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Location: Nashville TN.
6 Volt battery ???
Old Sports car??
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Trader Jim
Posted 2007-09-15 3:29 PM (#81781 - in reply to #81755)
Subject: Re: auto zoned


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Location: South of most, North of few
BTW, My wife is the parts manager at the local Lincoln Mercury dealer. I don't have any problems with parts.
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alpep
Posted 2007-09-15 3:38 PM (#81782 - in reply to #81755)
Subject: Re: auto zoned


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Location: NJ
Originally posted by PEZ:
6 Volt battery ???
Old Sports car??
I wish maybe a gull wing mercedes? or 58 vette?

nope just a 55 ford pickup.
bought new by my grandfather and a rust bucket now. my grandfather cracked it up a few months after new and it was repaired by old man had 3 accidents all in a row 3 years in a row all on thanksgiving day in the late seventies. the truck never really recovered.

I used it up until the mid 90's and well life kinda got in the way and now that the borough is on my butt about it I am in the process of getting it back on the road.

but .........

the cop that cited me told me the truck was not registered. well historic registration in NJ is a one time thing and they sorta send me renewals etc. plus he said it was registered to my old man. impossible since he died in 83 obviously it is an old clerical error from the 80's on the dmv's part but these bozons (bozo + moron = bozon) just don't want to hear it.

so off to the DMV.....they told me I am trying to do something illegal, the truck is NOT mine I am NOT the owner even though I do have a title with my name on it.....

how does it get resolved?

a day trip to trenton and then hold my breath!
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Beal
Posted 2007-09-15 5:13 PM (#81783 - in reply to #81755)
Subject: Re: auto zoned



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Al here is the problem in a nut shell.
America doesn't manufacture anything anymore (certainly no where near enough)
In the old days, when we were brilliant and young, all these chunksters would have factory jobs. Only the ones able, would deal with the public. It was a step above factory work.
There are no more factory jobs so all these loosers now go for the service jobs and get to deal with the public. Fun, ain't it?
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alpep
Posted 2007-09-15 5:44 PM (#81784 - in reply to #81755)
Subject: Re: auto zoned


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Originally posted by Mauvais Beal (cwk2):
Al here is the problem in a nut shell.
America doesn't manufacture anything anymore (certainly no where near enough)
In the old days, when we were brilliant and young, all these chunksters would have factory jobs. Only the ones able, would deal with the public. It was a step above factory work.
There are no more factory jobs so all these loosers now go for the service jobs and get to deal with the public. Fun, ain't it?
absolutely correct.
except some of these folks would be SWEEPING up in the factory they would not have any of the skilled labor jobs.
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FlySig
Posted 2007-09-15 5:59 PM (#81785 - in reply to #81755)
Subject: Re: auto zoned



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Originally posted by alpep:
so off to the DMV.....they told me I am trying to do something illegal, the truck is NOT mine I am NOT the owner even though I do have a title with my name on it.....

how does it get resolved?

a day trip to trenton and then hold my breath! [/QB]
I had a similar snafu with NY state over insurance, which resulted in an arrest warrant issued for me twelve years later. Oh yeah, I didn't live in NY state or have a NY drivers license. Some clerk mistyped something and it eventually went into a national data base. Made my life complicated for a while, but enough paperwork eventually solves all DMV snafus.
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ksdaddy
Posted 2007-09-15 6:32 PM (#81786 - in reply to #81755)
Subject: Re: auto zoned


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Stopped into the hardware store today. Locally owned since 1844 (seriously). Even though they are mucky-mucks that practically own the town and the sister of the two brothers currently at the reins is a US Senator that fought to keep Lowes out of here, I still try to buy locally. If a small store HAS it, I'll do my best to buy it within reason.

Having said that, I was perusing the tools and lusted over some of the bar clamps. Every one I picked up said Made in China. In fact I had a hard time finding anything that was made in the US. The utility blades maybe.

I then strolled over to the lawn & garden section in the vain hope of finding a scythe. No way. A scythe? Of course not. I knew better than to ask the guy behind the counter because he wouldn't know what one WAS.

Most (if not all) of the rakes, shovels, etc were made in China.

Fast forward, I found a small company here in Maine that custom makes European style scythes custom fitted to the buyer, complete with accessories and lots of tutoring if needed. I guess that was encouraging, a small company that makes their own stuff and follows through afterwards!
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ProfessorBB
Posted 2007-09-15 7:26 PM (#81787 - in reply to #81755)
Subject: Re: auto zoned



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I seldom mess with my own cars anymore. I open the hood and don't recognize a thing. Plus, living in the city where we drive less than 5,000 miles a year, and owning relatively reliable vehicles (she Lexus, me Acura MDX), car repairs are a thing of the past. I'd rather spend my time and money in the bandroom.
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Old Man Arthur
Posted 2007-09-15 7:49 PM (#81788 - in reply to #81755)
Subject: Re: auto zoned



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I listen to the hedge-fund stock-report business-news on the radio... And get dismayed.
They say that we have become a "service-based" economy Like It's A GOOD THING!
Everyone works at McDonald's so they can shop at Wal-Mart.
You never have to worry about our own government becoming "Protectionist" cuz we make NOTHING here!
Even our tomatoes are grown in Guatemala. Most of the parts of anything that is made here is imported.
The big post-war (WWII) economy was based on manufacturing. That was what made America Great!
We also were the Breadbasket of the world, sending food to China, Russia, and anyone else in need.
Now we import most of our food.
Now our economy is based on Speculation. Trading pieces of paper that you cannot EAT!

Screw Terrorism! Our real concern should be that all the countries that we owe money to might cut-off our credit!
Piss the rest of the world off so that they won't trade with us until we pay our bills!
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Phil Wong
Posted 2007-09-17 3:56 PM (#81789 - in reply to #81755)
Subject: Re: auto zoned


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Al,
A few years agoI went to Staples for school supplies for my kids. I paid for my items and was waiting for the cashier to staple the bag closed. She tries to staple the bag closed numerous times. Then I realized something funny and I said to her " You work at STAPLES and ran out of staples. :p " I thought it was funny but she gave me a your an asshole look. I think she was just pissed because she was near the end of her shift and there were not extra staples at her register.
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an4340
Posted 2007-09-17 4:21 PM (#81790 - in reply to #81755)
Subject: Re: auto zoned


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Phil, I think it's funny.

At lunch I went to PEP boys to get some materials to repair a car bumper. I went to the counter and asked for help on what were the correct materials, and the Bozon Goth Chunkster (though this one was skinny) said he did not know. I asked if anyone in this auto supply store knew, and he said no, that I should go down the street to an auto repair shop. You're kidding me right, I said. He said no, I'm really sorry mister, no one knows. His sincerity was nice, but also disappointing.
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Paulcc1
Posted 2007-09-17 4:40 PM (#81791 - in reply to #81755)
Subject: Re: auto zoned


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Your money is as good as everyone else. So if it were me they would never see my shiny white a?? in there store again.
The End Pauly
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Tupperware
Posted 2007-09-17 5:19 PM (#81792 - in reply to #81755)
Subject: Re: auto zoned


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Location: Phoenix AZ
Originally posted by alpep:
chunky + Youngster equals chunkster
Just dawned on me that Chunky + Oldster also equals Chunkster.

Dave
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cliff
Posted 2007-09-17 5:38 PM (#81793 - in reply to #81755)
Subject: Re: auto zoned


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Have a client who is a woman (of somewhat diminutive stature) whom NOBODY likes.

. . . usually refer to her as "The Shunt".
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ksdaddy
Posted 2007-09-17 10:17 PM (#81794 - in reply to #81755)
Subject: Re: auto zoned


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I was in one of the local parts stores today and there is a woman about 45 that works there. Her father owned a parts store and she grew up in that whole dynamic. She is one of the best parts people I've ever known.

She's also gay.

Which has nothing to do with it except today there was a guy talking to her at the counter. He was selling ad space in a semi-local magazine and he asked her to fill out a short questionnaire. Apparently one of the questions was marital status. He was reading her responses as she checked them off. He said, "So you never got married, huh? Never found the right man?"

If I had been drinking coffee I would have done a spit take. She just smiled and said, "Nope! Never found the right man."

At this point he's getting flirtatious.

"Still lookin'?"

At this point I'm cringing, my toes are curling, and I'm thinking, oh, god, SHUT UP dude....

She just responded with something like, "Oh, I'm so busy here at work I'd never find the time..."

So I guess the lesson learned is that it sometimes ain't no picnic on the OTHER side of the counter!
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ProfessorBB
Posted 2007-09-18 9:34 AM (#81795 - in reply to #81755)
Subject: Re: auto zoned



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My father worked as a partsman at Ford dealerships most of his working life. He memorized 99% of the part numbers of every Ford car and truck from the 1950's through the 1980's. If he lost his job at one dealership, he'd make a few phone calls and be hired by another that same day. Knowledgeable Ford partsmen back then in Southern California were valued for their knowledge. They all knew and respected one another. He finally washed out of the business as the old school owners sold to newer generations who were more interested in selling cars than keeping them running. Try and find a dealership that still has its own in-house body shop these days.
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Nils
Posted 2007-09-19 1:16 AM (#81796 - in reply to #81755)
Subject: Re: auto zoned


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Originally posted by an4340:
Phil, I think it's funny.

At lunch I went to PEP boys to get some materials to repair a car bumper. I went to the counter and asked for help on what were the correct materials, and the Bozon Goth Chunkster (though this one was skinny) said he did not know. I asked if anyone in this auto supply store knew, and he said no, that I should go down the street to an auto repair shop. You're kidding me right, I said. He said no, I'm really sorry mister, no one knows. His sincerity was nice, but also disappointing.
If you are repairing a plastic bumper cover I think you went to the wrong kind of auto supply store. You need to go to any "autobody supply" store, they should have what you need & they should be able to tell you how to use the materials. Even a well stocked auto supply store probably wouldn't have the stuff you need, although some do, generally smaller places like we have here.
I guess I'm really lucky. I have had an account at the same place (Madras Auto Supply) for 35 years. George finally retired & now his son Cory runs the place. When I met Cory he was still in school but he worked at the store on weekends. I know all the people that work there & the machinist in the back room is one of my best friends.
Way back when a guy could actually work on a car engine, if we needed a part we'd just go unlock the store & get it & write it on the pad. I could still do that but I don't work on any running gear anymore. Not even at work at the body shop (38 years), we farm that greasy stuff out.
At this point my idea of "working on the rig" is plugging in the Predator under the dash of my Ford diesel & programming it to give me however much power I want (up to 425 hp), how hard & when I want it to shift, whether I want mileage or go fast, yada yada, & I can turn off the 100mph governor if I want. (Which I don't anymore, my wife would get a HUGE ticket, she's a real leadfoot.) All by re-programming the computer with a little hand-held gizmo. It's amazing.
The thing really works great. At the "economy" setting, which changed the mileage from 15-16mpg to 17-18mpg, it's making 390 hp & 910 ft-lbs of torque. Instant Hot Rod. Kinda tough on tires if you aren't careful but it's sporty to drive, especially for a 3/4 ton 4WD truck.

But I can't fix anything under the hood. It doesn't even have a throttle linkage, it's all done through the injectors via the computer, from what I'm told.
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omp2k1
Posted 2007-09-19 4:51 AM (#81797 - in reply to #81755)
Subject: Re: auto zoned


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Well its not the youngsters problem they dont know any better, most of them act like that because their paretns didnt teach them any manners or they did but under the influence of other kids who havent been tought proper manners they neglect them just to be "cool", if in company of others, otherwise they'll probably act right, so I say its "what you bring from home", sort of say...
if that makes any sense... :rolleyes:
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an4340
Posted 2007-09-19 10:16 AM (#81798 - in reply to #81755)
Subject: Re: auto zoned


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The chunkster I encountered was perfectly polite, just had no knowledge, nor did anyone in the store. I did find what I thought I needed but the knowledge department there was empty.

Anyway I'm going to do what I always do when dealing with plastic, just put on fiberglass. It's not the bumper that's broken, it's the fascia (sp?).
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Nils
Posted 2007-09-19 10:35 AM (#81799 - in reply to #81755)
Subject: Re: auto zoned


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Originally posted by an4340:
The chunkster I encountered was perfectly polite, just had no knowledge, nor did anyone in the store. I did find what I thought I needed but the knowledge department there was empty.

Anyway I'm going to do what I always do when dealing with plastic, just put on fiberglass. It's not the bumper that's broken, it's the fascia (sp?).
You'll be wasting your time, fiberglass will NOT stick to a plastic bumper cover.
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maxdaddy7271
Posted 2007-09-26 5:20 AM (#81800 - in reply to #81755)
Subject: Re: auto zoned


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...sitting on the sidewalk beating yo-what?!
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an4340
Posted 2007-09-26 9:57 AM (#81801 - in reply to #81755)
Subject: Re: auto zoned


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Nils,
I did it. And it's sticking. I followed the directions from Popular Mechanics.

http://www.popularmechanics.com/how_to_central/automotive/2763656.h...

I've also used fiberglass to repair old ovation cases.

I'm curious why you say it won't work. I think the secret is surface preparation. What material would you recommend to repair a bumper? (Besides replacing it)
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an4340
Posted 2007-09-26 12:56 PM (#81802 - in reply to #81755)
Subject: Re: auto zoned


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I used this, though not in a kit form.
http://www.amazon.com/Fiberglass-Resin-Jelly-Repair-Kit/dp/B000BOHK...
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Nils
Posted 2007-09-27 12:34 AM (#81803 - in reply to #81755)
Subject: Re: auto zoned


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Originally posted by an4340:
Nils,
I did it. And it's sticking. I followed the directions from Popular Mechanics.

http://www.popularmechanics.com/how_to_central/automotive/2763656.h...

I've also used fiberglass to repair old ovation cases.

I'm curious why you say it won't work. I think the secret is surface preparation. What material would you recommend to repair a bumper? (Besides replacing it)
Because if it is flexed it will crack. Fiberglass will not *permanently* bond to flexible plastic. It's not chemically compatible. Fiberglass is hard & rigid, bumper covers are soft & flexible. Did it feather in so it looks like the rest of the bumper & you can't see the repair after painting? It's virtually impossible to feather something as relatively hard as fiberglass into something as soft as a bumper cover without leaving a clearly discernable edge. There are some special flexible adhesives that are made for repairing bumper covers that are designed to permanently bond to these types of plastic (there are a number of different kinds). Not many adhesives will stick to any of them. Years ago when plastic bumper covers first appeared, we (in the autobody repair biz) tried all sorts of ways to repair them. Fiberglass was one of the first things we tried. Fiberglass will 'sorta' stick for a while but it won't last. They all came back. For a few years there was simply no way to do permanent repairs, you bought a new one. Then they came out with hot air plastic welding equipment & soldering iron type welding equipment. You had to match the plastic rod to the type of plastic by doing "burn tests" to find out what it was. Those would stick 'em back together but we had no way to smooth out minor wiggles. (Plastic body filler wouldn't stick either.) Over the years the chemical companies have finally developed ways to do repairs on covers with relatively minor damage (& that aren't textured) that will pass muster with I-Car, which is the outfit that oversees such things & makes agreements with the insurance companies regarding acceptable repair methods. (That would be the stuff I suggested you buy at the autobody supply store.) To do a proper repair to a cover with a hole or tear, you first have to remove the cover. Then clean & machine sand the back & apply a special semi-sticky mesh that's very similar to the stuff used on drywall, only stronger. That is buried under a coat of two part bonding adhesive. There are several manufacturers of these. This will add strength & help hold the repair together when it flexes. Then you "V" out the outside & give it a heavy coat of the adhesive/filler to fill most of the void, sand it out to shape as close as possible, glaze it with a special flexible glaze made to stick to the plastic, final sand, prime, sand again, seal & paint to match with basecoat-clearcoat urethane with flex additive. If it's only scratched & not torn or punctured you can block out all but very deep scratches with a DA sander & then use the glaze to fill the rest. It bonds & feathers very nicely, I did one this morning at the Ol' Bodyshop.

Oh yeah, O cases are rigid plastic that doesn't flex much so the poor bond from the fiberglass resin has a fighting chance to stay stuck. However, if it gets whacked in the same spot again there is an excellent chance that the glass will pop out in one piece.

Good luck.
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Slipkid
Posted 2007-09-27 9:21 AM (#81804 - in reply to #81755)
Subject: Re: auto zoned



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I'm gonna buy a battery for my truck today.
Wish me luck.
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