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Location: Tidal Mudflats of Virginia | I'm happy and sad for ya Paul, I know Kim will make it better but still... |
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Location: closely held secret | So, new top, new bowl... new pickup, new preamp (Pro or Optima maybe? - be sure to get the XLR board).
20 years of playing/aging the top and it will be as if it never happened. |
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Location: Germany | Oh dear! Wonder why they can't replace just the top? I'm quite sure it has a screwed neck so it should be no problem to remove it from bowl/top and simply replace the top. Just a thought.
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Location: NJ | I don't think it was an accident at all . . .
. . . I think it "jumped". |
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Location: closely held secret | ... or was pushed by someone on the grassy knoll. |
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Location: Nova Scotia, Canada | "...20 years of playing/aging the top and it will be as if it never happened..."
That extra 20 years may be great for the top but it'll be hard as hell on poor Moody. ;) |
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Location: closely held secret | By then he'll have conquered the elusive "4th chord". |
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Location: Phoenix AZ | I know Paul does not want to hear this, but ...
If you put a whole new body on this, won't it just sound like a regular Custom Elite? No disrespect to the CE, but the 87C is certainly in a different league sound wise.
You know what Paul, maybe have them cleat it, seal it up as best they can and play on... Yes it will look like a somewhat beat up guitar but who knows maybe it'll sound wonderful?
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Location: closely held secret | Not a bad idea, Dave, but what's the differences between a CE and the '87 (besides mojo) that cause it to sound so good?
Bracing? Top wood? Kerfing?
(if it is just mojo, then I agree Paul... get the top repaired and treat it as a precious, but slightly disfigured loved one) |
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Location: Budd Lake, NJ | I'm so sorry it happened, Moody--I remember when my Gertrude had her unfortunate accident; "heartsick" doesn't really describe it, does it? :(
Is it absolutely necessary to replace the top? One way or another, the guitar is not going to be original, and if anything, Gertrude means more to me in her less-than-pristine state than before. When I toted her to the Mothership to be looked at, Kim discouraged me from replacing the top (she was about 17 years old at the time the split happened, and closer to 30 when I finally took her up to the Mothership to have her original "temporary" repair redone for good.) They did a wonderful job stabilizing the split, and it hasn't affected her ability to hold tune--or sound wonderful--at all. When she came home, you could hardly noticed it.
Just looking at things from a different angle....
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Location: Vermont USA | Hey fix the top chicks like guys with scars :confused:
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Location: NW NJ | I'm with Tuppy, Karen and Pauly - Get the ship to fix the top. 20 years is a lot of playing in to get the top broken back in... |
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Location: Boise, Idaho | I was trying to say something really important for my 5000th post, like "I bought Slothead # 45", but buying the Cayman last week put me a few years further behind on the guitar purchases. Instead, I was lying awake worrying about our SoCal friends (the news showed a fire burning down a hill to some houses that looked a lot like Tony's neighborhood) and I suddenly remembered G-Man, who had the 87 Collector's with the bad neck and fretboard that he was sort of trying to sell. Noah posted some of his pictures for him and I emailed him several times, but he never decided what to do with it. I will try to find his email address. His real name was Kyle and he lived in Milwaukee.
Anyway, my idea was that he has a decent bowl and top, but a bad neck. He might sell the parts and Paul could have the mothership make a really nice guitar out of the 2 of them, using his insurance payment. |
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Location: Latitude 39.56819, Longitude -105.080066 | Bummer Paul, I know how you loved that one!
...but after 5000 posts, maybe Mark has finally proved useful (unlike Jeffery W!) |
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Location: Earth·SolarSystem·LocalInterstellarCloud·Local Bub | Keep your money in your shoes.
(then Bite Me.) |
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Location: Vermont USA | "Keep your money in your shoes"
Better to put my feet in them.
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Location: south east Michigan | Paul...
No matter how you try and spin it, it's not a good thing.
I'm bummed for ya buddy. :( |
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Location: Carle Place, NY | Originally posted by moody, p.i.:
I talked with Kim. The guitar will need a whole new top to make it right. That also means a new bowl. It looks like the insurance company is willing to repair it. I'm not so sure that a new top and bowl is absolutely necessary. My CL had a big thru the wood crack in the top and the factory was able to refinish it and preserve the top. The crack is still visable but absolutely stable. Also the factory replaced the top on my 1537 but used the original bowl.
Keep in mind that even if the top can be saved, the guitar will need a new bridge which will not have the two bolts. I don't think that it will sound any different though. It's just that the new carved bridges are not quite as nice as the old ones.
Send it to the factory and ask to have the guitar preserved as much as possible.
Keep it all in perspective Paul. S**t happens. A damaged guitar is a whole lot better than a physical injury that would prevent you from playing guitar. |
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Location: closely held secret | Originally posted by Mitchrx:
A damaged guitar is a whole lot better than a physical injury that would prevent you from playing guitar. And it's a lateral pass to Cliff! Will he run with it or hand it off to Jeff? |
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Location: SoCal | Mitch, you are absolutely right. In the great scheme of things, a damaged guitar is not that big a deal. People out here are losing their homes and a few have lost their lives.
I'll shoot the guitar out to CT in the next week and we'll go from there. |
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Location: Cicero, NY | Ouch. That's too bad, Paul. Glad your place is safe though. |
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Location: Carle Place, NY | Originally posted by The Wabbit Formerly Known As Waskel:
Originally posted by Mitchrx:
A damaged guitar is a whole lot better than a physical injury that would prevent you from playing guitar. And it's a lateral pass to Cliff! Will he run with it or hand it off to Jeff? |
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Location: Earth·SolarSystem·LocalInterstellarCloud·Local Bub | Paul...
Just in case... keep that crack clean (notice my restraint) if the top can be repaired... it's the dirt in the crack that makes it most noticable...
Maybe some painters masking tape over it's length...
(I must now go outside and shout double-entendres into the forest) |
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| Wow - so sorry Paul.
I've always been jealous of you guys with enough room to leave guitars out on stands or hang 'em on the walls but for once I can see the advantage of my having to keep them in their cases.
Minimum fixing - it adds character like those old schoolday scars. Guitars are like us - you should be able to tell their age just by looking. Nuts to the plastic surgery, just get a few stitches and live with the scar. And put the rest of your guitars away until the Sant Anna moves on. I remember the strength of that wind even after 30+ years.
Coulda been worse - you coulda been sitting playing it. |
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Location: Campbell River, British Columbia | Originally posted by Jewel's Mom:
at the time the split happened Karen's right. Split happens.
Stabilize the wound to make sure it will never get any worse. Now you got a 'road warrior' story making your guitar an official Road Dog.
Now, for FURTHER safety. I think you should ship all your guitars to a safer, wetter environment until things cool down. I suggest any member in the Washington State area.
(10%, across the border, right guys?)
Did I just say that out loud? |
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