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Joined: October 2012 Posts: 1034 Location: Yokohama, Japan | DanSavage - 2017-05-19 12:14 AM I got the first couple of coats of clear on the top. Oh WOW! She is purdy! I'm in no hurry; but man, I can't wait to see her all done! Beautiful! | ||
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Joined: February 2016 Posts: 1802 Location: When?? | @arumako - " I can't wait to see her all done! Beautiful!" +1 | ||
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Joined: October 2012 Posts: 1034 Location: Yokohama, Japan | DanSavage - 2016-12-29 12:58 AM This will be getting a torrefied Sitka spruce top and braces. I played this guitar before taking the neck and top off and it sounded pretty good. So, I'll probably be duplicating the K-brace pattern. It's like a simplified A-brace pattern. It's going to be interesting to see how the "K" brace pattern contrasts to the "A" brace (if any...). I wonder how long Ovation implemented the "K" brace in their production. Haven't heard much about it and the Internet doesn't seem to have much (even the Ovation Tribute site? maybe I missed something?) to say about it either. Very cool (and rare?) combination! | ||
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Joined: June 2012 Posts: 2316 Location: Pueblo West, CO | As near as I can tell from the sales brochures on OvationTribute.com, the K-5 brace pattern was mainly used in the 80s. It was used on the Custom Balladeers and Ultras for that time period. Sometime in the early 90s, the Ultras were phased out and the Balladeers went back to a modified version of the original X-braces. Not the Ovation Modified-X, but a modified version of the original Ovation X-braces used in the 1960s.
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Joined: June 2012 Posts: 2316 Location: Pueblo West, CO | I got the final coats on the top, and the neck/head stock. I'm going to let them cure for a couple of days, then final sand and polish everything. | ||
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Joined: October 2012 Posts: 1034 Location: Yokohama, Japan | DanSavage - 2017-05-25 12:41 AM As near as I can tell from the sales brochures on OvationTribute.com, the K-5 brace pattern was mainly used in the 80s. It was used on the Custom Balladeers and Ultras for that time period. Sometime in the early 90s, the Ultras were phased out and the Balladeers went back to a modified version of the original X-braces. Not the Ovation Modified-X, but a modified version of the original Ovation X-braces used in the 1960s.
Thanks for the info Dan. After some attempt at searching on the web, I ended up cycling right back to This thread. I think your 1612's top photo might be the only clear pic of a K-5 brace. I found a thread right here on the OFC from 2009 that discussed this very issue, and the K-5 brace ended as a mystery with no graphic representation of what it looked like. I wonder if the longer side braces of the K-5 will make the top a bit stiffer than the A brace. Can't wait to hear your thoughts on it when you string her up and take her for a spin! | ||
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Joined: June 2012 Posts: 2316 Location: Pueblo West, CO | arumako - 2017-05-26 8:17 AM Thanks for the info Dan. After some attempt at searching on the web, I ended up cycling right back to This thread. I think your 1612's top photo might be the only clear pic of a K-5 brace. I found a thread right here on the OFC from 2009 that discussed this very issue, and the K-5 brace ended as a mystery with no graphic representation of what it looked like. I wonder if the longer side braces of the K-5 will make the top a bit stiffer than the A brace. Can't wait to hear your thoughts on it when you string her up and take her for a spin! The 1987 and 1988 Catalogs have photos of the K-5 braces. It's right near the front of the catalog. It also shows a cut-away A-brace behind it. See: 1988/89 Ovation US Catalog I recall reading somewhere that the guitar top actually twists as it vibrates, so Charlie designed the quintad braces with this in mind. The A-brace is, essentially, a quintad brace pattern for a center-hole guitar. But, it requires the reinforcements at the joint between the upper and lower side braces to spread the load from the upper bout to the lower one. The K-5 brace substitutes the two-piece side A-braces for a single piece of wood on each side. Its profile is taller than the A-brace equivilant, which helps counteract the pulling force of the strings. But, it's construction is simplified and cost is lowered because it doesn't need the extra reinforcments. Since the top is twisting as it vibrates, the extra height doesn't really affect how it sounds compared to an A-brace. But, it's easier and cheaper to produce. Obviously, there was some aspect that Ovation didn't like about this brace pattern as it was pretty much dropped by the mid-1990s with the Balladeers going back to their origins, the X-brace. Now, almost all Ovations are X-braced, even the Elites. The only exceptions are the Adamas, which use the quintad, and the Glen Campbell CLs, which use a VT11 brace pattern. (?) Yep, it shouldn't be too long, now. I'm going to start the wet sanding/polishing and it should be ready to play by the end of the weekend. (Yay!) Edited by DanSavage 2017-05-26 11:48 AM | ||
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Joined: June 2012 Posts: 2316 Location: Pueblo West, CO | It's been a while since my last post. I've taken a few pics along the way. The top and neck/head stock are done.
Bridge is being glued into place. Clamps removed. Neck aligned and bolted into place, fret board extension glued down.
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Joined: February 2014 Posts: 704 Location: moline,illinois | Another pretty Dan Savage guitar,the quality of the top wood and the way you finish them make me drool every time I see one. Where's this beauty headed off to when she's done,I hope your keeping something for yourself. | ||
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Joined: June 2012 Posts: 2316 Location: Pueblo West, CO | Hi Kevin, Thanks for the kind words. Yes, the Stewmac torrefied spruce has been consistently high-quality. The silking in this one is particularly strong, almost to the point of obscuring the actual grain. While this one has been spoken for, no money has changed hands yet. That won't happen until after it's finished and playable. I'll let the buyer speak up when they're ready. Yes, I've still got the 1111-4 I did a few months ago. I was planning to sell it, but after playing it for a while I decided to keep it as a house guitar. Well, that is, unless someone offers me an exorbitant amount of money for it. | ||
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Joined: June 2012 Posts: 2316 Location: Pueblo West, CO | Nut is made. Tuners are installed and strings are on. | ||
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Joined: May 2008 Posts: 1555 Location: Indiana | Nice Dan. Interesting you went with rosewood. One of mine had been routed thru to the top. I chose ebony for the new bridge floor... being the hardest wood in my stash. Like you, I believe it improved the sound, but that would be difficult to prove to a jury. Keep up the beautiful work. | ||
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Joined: March 2002 Posts: 15664 Location: SoCal | Beautiful Dan. Had my 1117 out at the canyon last night. It sounds great and plays like buttah! Wish it had sounded that good when I first bought it in 78..... | ||
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Joined: December 2016 Posts: 128 | Very pretty. Congrats on birthing another Savage Special. | ||
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Joined: June 2012 Posts: 2316 Location: Pueblo West, CO | Jonmark Stone - 2017-06-03 9:03 AM Nice Dan. Interesting you went with rosewood. One of mine had been routed thru to the top. I chose ebony for the new bridge floor... being the hardest wood in my stash. Like you, I believe it improved the sound, but that would be difficult to prove to a jury. Keep up the beautiful work. Thanks, Jon. | ||
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Joined: June 2012 Posts: 2316 Location: Pueblo West, CO | moody, p.i. - 2017-06-03 12:54 PM Beautiful Dan. Had my 1117 out at the canyon last night. It sounds great and plays like buttah! Wish it had sounded that good when I first bought it in 78..... Thanks, Paul. I'll upload the video snippet of your guitar I took the last time I was up at the canyon. It's not much to look at, but the guitar is clearly heard. Ha! Is it your favorite guitar, yet? LOL! | ||
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Joined: June 2012 Posts: 2316 Location: Pueblo West, CO | DarenSavage - 2017-06-03 4:32 PM Very pretty. Congrats on birthing another Savage Special. Thanks! | ||
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Joined: October 2012 Posts: 1034 Location: Yokohama, Japan | DanSavage - 2017-06-03 12:43 AM Nut is made. Tuners are installed and strings are on. "WOW"...as Arumako's jaw drops to the floor...awaiting full review and video with bated breath! Incredible work Dan! | ||
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Joined: August 2007 Posts: 1008 Location: Tuscany, Italy | Amazing. Another work of love on a beautifully restored Ovation. I want one Bravo Dan ! | ||
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Joined: June 2012 Posts: 2316 Location: Pueblo West, CO | Thanks, Ken, & Riccardo. Dan Savage - 1982 Ovation 1612-4 Rebuild... Edited by DanSavage 2017-06-04 6:42 PM | ||
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Joined: October 2012 Posts: 1034 Location: Yokohama, Japan | moody, p.i. - 2017-06-03 4:54 AM Beautiful Dan. Had my 1117 out at the canyon last night. It sounds great and plays like buttah! Wish it had sounded that good when I first bought it in 78..... Okay...now isn't that just going a bit too far? Ah, but one listen to the video says it all... DanSavage - 2017-06-04 8:40 AM Thanks, Ken, & Riccardo. I used some nice ear-buds to listen to this 1612 - what an amazing voice she has! I suspect the torrefied top is the central reason; with these kinds of results, the Mother Ship is bound to release a torrefied model, or a line... DanSavage - 2017-06-02 2:13 AM While this one has been spoken for, no money has changed hands yet. That won't happen until after it's finished and playable. I'll let the buyer speak up when they're ready. I keep saying, I'm not in a hurry, and I'm not..., but I don't think I've ever been more ready to own a specific guitar (perhaps excluding the 1678av50-5) in my life! I'll take delivery whenever, but I'm ready when you are Dan! Thanks for giving me the opportunity to own a Savage Rebuilt O! Edited by arumako 2017-06-04 8:29 PM | ||
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Joined: May 2008 Posts: 1555 Location: Indiana | Impressed. MS should be experimenting with torrefied tops IMHO. | ||
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Joined: February 2016 Posts: 1802 Location: When?? | @Dan - "It's just a few snippets of different songs I know." And the crowd goes wild! Not only do you produce spectacular guitars, you play them well too. As always, looking forward to the next chapters in the book of Dan. | ||
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Joined: June 2012 Posts: 2316 Location: Pueblo West, CO | All done. I'll let the pics speak for themselves. | ||
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Joined: October 2012 Posts: 1034 Location: Yokohama, Japan | DanSavage - 2017-06-08 2:53 PM All done. I'll let the pics speak for themselves. Oh WOW! Oh WOW! Oh WOW! Oh WOW! Oh WOW! Oh WOW! Oh WOW! Oh WOW! Oh WOW! Oh WOW! Look at the silking on that sound bo..., look at the beautiful fini..., look at that headsto..., look at that fret-job, wait-a-minute, it just dawned on me that the finger board is not rosewood (duh!)...but ebony? Oh man, she is gorgeous! Just amazing work Dan! Edited by arumako 2017-06-09 5:59 AM | ||
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