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DanSavage |
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Joined: June 2012 Posts: 2315 Location: Pueblo West, CO | I spent some time cleaning up the body in preparation for joining the new top.
I also used the heat gun to soften the glue holding the remnants of the old top to the kerfed lining and top of the neck block. It was definitely a lot easier and faster to do this job with a heat gun rather than cold chiseling.
I still need to remove the glue remnants from the underside of the fret board extension. Now that all the glue is removed I tested the fit of the neck to the body. Not bad. It's fit is a little sloppy, but all in all it should work just fine. I'll fine-tune the fit as I go. | ||
DarenSavage |
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Joined: December 2016 Posts: 128 | Wow! This guitar seems to be coming apart pretty cleanly. Definitely makes the retopping go easier. It's still a lot of work, but at least there's not more work on top of it. Pun intended. | ||
DanSavage |
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Joined: June 2012 Posts: 2315 Location: Pueblo West, CO | Yeah, using the heat gun to get the old remnants off really made the job a lot easier. Had I done the job with Dremel, Xacto and scraper, it would have taken a lot longer, not to mention producing a whole lot more sanding dust. More importantly, the neck and top glue joints are back down to the original wood with no extra taken off. | ||
DarenSavage |
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Joined: December 2016 Posts: 128 | I'm all for easier. Everything looks like it's going to go back together great. Edited by DarenSavage 2017-01-11 9:43 AM | ||
Love O Fair |
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Joined: February 2016 Posts: 1801 Location: When?? | Man, I'm going to have to amp up my caffeine intake to keep up with TWO Savage brothers. Welcome to the OFC, Daren! (I'm pretty new here myself) | ||
DarenSavage |
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Joined: December 2016 Posts: 128 | Thanks LOF. Lucky for you I'm new to luthiering. Wood/fiber glass construction I know, guitar terms and especially, Ovation model numbers...I got a lot to learn! Edited by DarenSavage 2017-01-11 7:20 PM | ||
DanSavage |
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Joined: June 2012 Posts: 2315 Location: Pueblo West, CO | I was able to joint the top in preparation for joining. I also rough cut all the brace stock. I'm planning to join the tops for all four guitars at the same time so that I can take them down to the sanders and have them all thickness sanded together. | ||
DarenSavage |
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Joined: December 2016 Posts: 128 | That sure is a pretty top. I bet it will look better once it done. | ||
DanSavage |
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Joined: June 2012 Posts: 2315 Location: Pueblo West, CO | Yeah, it does have nice grain pattern that flows with the shape of the guitar. | ||
tpa |
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Joined: December 2004 Posts: 566 Location: Denmark | Is that threaded insert for a strap button original? | ||
DanSavage |
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Joined: June 2012 Posts: 2315 Location: Pueblo West, CO | Yep. It's just a molly, or more properly a rivet or jack nut. They come in a number of sizes, but I believe that Ovation uses the 6/32 thread size. Edited by DanSavage 2017-01-20 6:33 PM | ||
DarenSavage |
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Joined: December 2016 Posts: 128 | I worked the Joshua Bell concert tonight in Los Alamos. Here's a photo of him with his $5 million Stradivarius violin. He was nice enough to accommodate my request for a photo after his rehearsal.
Daren  Edited by DarenSavage 2017-02-04 12:51 AM | ||
DanSavage |
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Joined: June 2012 Posts: 2315 Location: Pueblo West, CO | Kewl! Thanks for sharing. How was the concert? Is that his Strad or one on loan? I'll bet it would sound better with a torrefied top. LOL! Edited by DanSavage 2017-02-04 12:14 PM | ||
DarenSavage |
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Joined: December 2016 Posts: 128 | Parts of the concert were really good (Carmen), parts were not really my cup of tea (atonal numbers). He traded in his $2 milllion Strad for this one. He owns it and it never left his side. When you get tired of Ovations, you can switch to upgrading Strads with torrified tops! | ||
DetlefMichel |
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Joined: May 2011 Posts: 755 Location: Muenster/Germany | DarenSavage - 2017-02-06 10:04 PM He traded in his $2 milllion Strad for this one. He owns it and it never left his side. When you get tired of Ovations, you can switch to upgrading Strads with torrified tops! Who knows? My new Ovation with a Dan Savage top is slowly going to become my favourite right after the 1688... | ||
DanSavage |
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Joined: June 2012 Posts: 2315 Location: Pueblo West, CO | DarenSavage - 2017-02-06 1:04 PM Parts of the concert were really good (Carmen), parts were not really my cup of tea (atonal numbers). He traded in his $2 milllion Strad for this one. He owns it and it never left his side. When you get tired of Ovations, you can switch to upgrading Strads with torrified tops! Yeah, if I owned an instrument worth that much and took it to a concert, it wouldn't be far from me, either. I don't know that I'd be re-topping a Strad worth $5 million. I'd probably start with a Stewmac fiddle kit that costs only $199, then add a torrefied top for another $65. Technically speaking, since the Strad is about 500 years old, it's top is pretty much the same thing as torrefied wood. Edited by DanSavage 2017-02-07 12:56 PM | ||
DanSavage |
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Joined: June 2012 Posts: 2315 Location: Pueblo West, CO | DetlefMichel - 2017-02-07 9:52 AM Who knows? My new Ovation with a Dan Savage top is slowly going to become my favourite right after the 1688... Yeah, that's a pretty sweet sounding guitar. | ||
Love O Fair |
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Joined: February 2016 Posts: 1801 Location: When?? | @Dan ->>Technically speaking, since the Strad is about 500 years old, it's top is pretty much the same thing as torrefied wood.<<- At that age ya gotta wonder when they will finally turn to petrified rock! | ||
DanSavage |
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Joined: June 2012 Posts: 2315 Location: Pueblo West, CO | Love O Fair - 2017-02-07 2:07 PM At that age ya gotta wonder when they will finally turn to petrified rock! From the studies I've read wood pretty much stops aging at ~400 years. I've also read that musical instruments need to be exercised otherwise the wood 'goes to sleep'. So, a museum-kept Strad is not going to sound as 'luscious' as one that is plated regularly. | ||
Old Man Arthur |
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Joined: September 2006 Posts: 10777 Location: Keepin' It Weird in Portland, OR | DanSavage - 2017-02-07 8:42 PM So, a museum-kept Strad is not going to sound as 'luscious' as one that is plated regularly. Yup... As I have heard, a Museum-kept guitar, lute, violin, harp, is just OLD. That is why all of those Strad violins are in the hands of concert violinists. They don't OWN them... But the millionaires who do own them know that they have to be played. Otherwise, you paid $15Million for a wall hanger. | ||
DarenSavage |
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Joined: December 2016 Posts: 128 | Old Man Arthur - 2017-02-08 1:00 M One of my dance students has a music teacher in Vienna with a $20 million Strad. I think hers is a player, not a looker (unless you're one of her music students). That is why all of those Strad violins are in the hands of concert violinists. They don't OWN them... But the millionaires who do own them know that they have to be played. Otherwise, you paid $15Million for a wall hanger. Edited by DarenSavage 2017-02-08 7:03 PM | ||
DanSavage |
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Joined: June 2012 Posts: 2315 Location: Pueblo West, CO | Got the top rough cut. (first cutaway re-top) Sound hole is cut. All braces are made and being glued down. I'll pull the top off the gobar deck this afternoon, then work on the 1612 top. | ||
moody, p.i. |
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Joined: March 2002 Posts: 15664 Location: SoCal | Ok people. Gonna let you in on a little secret here. Dan and Daren are not just brothers. They are identical twins. I mean Patty Duke Show twins! Look alike, walk alike, at times they even talk alike. They only way, on first look, to distinguish them apart is the cut of their facial hair. Really cool...... | ||
DanSavage |
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Joined: June 2012 Posts: 2315 Location: Pueblo West, CO | moody, p.i. - 2017-02-15 2:07 PM Ok people. Gonna let you in on a little secret here. Dan and Daren are not just brothers. They are identical twins. I mean Patty Duke Show twins! Look alike, walk alike, at times they even talk alike. They only way, on first look, to distinguish them apart is the cut of their facial hair. Really cool...... Technically, we're fraternal twins. The genes run strong in our family. Here's a pic of all of us taken Christmas Day 2016. From left to right is Daren, Daren's dog Greta (she's shy) my daughter Rachel, my sister Tammy, my other daughter Rosalyn, wife Martine and me. Edited by DanSavage 2017-02-15 6:41 PM | ||
DarenSavage |
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Joined: December 2016 Posts: 128 | DanSavage - 2017-02-15 10:14 AM Wow! I'm proud to be your first cutaway re-top. I know its mine because the body is the background. Got the top rough cut. (first cutaway re-top) Sound hole is cut. All braces are made and being glued down. I'll pull the top off the gobar deck this afternoon, then work on the 1612 top. | ||
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