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Location: Phoenix AZ | We don't know what Miles goal is so probably hard to give him exactly what he wants ... list of model TYPES?, model NUMBERS?, every possible ITERATION? Hell, you could make a pretty long list of just the different COLORS !!!
I actually thought the way I organized my gallery made sense (at the time) ... shameless self promotion
1. Original series = all the shiny bowls
2. Round hole series = 3 bling levels (balladeer, legend, custom legend) plus the variations
3. Elite hole series = 3 bling levels plus the variations
4. Twelve strings = cross reference from other series
5. Bass guitars = cross reference from other series
6. Slotheads = steel folklore and nylon classicals
7. Adamas series = all of them
8. Collectors, limited runs and customs
9. Little guys = mandolins and ukuleles
10. Stormseries = semi hollow electrics
11. Solid body = all the solid bidy electrics
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Location: Upper Left USA | This is why Henry Ford lost it once you could get a new Ford in a color other than Black.
Stick to the model offerings and perhaps add a string of custom offerings.
Then go and relax by sitting back and gazing at the Christmas tree... wait, is that ornament out of place...
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Location: Phoenix AZ | Yes ... ALL of my guitars have exactly 3-1/2 windings of string around each string post when tuned to pitch. I'm serious. |
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Location: 6 String Ranch | Tamo ash was just a color, wood top uk2 was only one, as was the 12 string Uk2 and there were only 2-3 Messina deacons. Nakao models were always limited runs probably less that 50. There was one for Meyer too. I would think the break point has to be if it was in general production and offered to the world and showed up in a catalogue then it counts. Limited runs, proto runs, one off and handfuls are in a second category |
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Location: 6 String Ranch | But do they shrink to 3 windings when you use a string tube? |
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Location: Phoenix AZ | Beal - 2015-12-01 7:55 AM
But do they shrink to 3 windings when you use a string tube?
The StringTube is only used to pull the string through the bridge. You remove it before inserting the string in the post. The StringTube is too long to leave on permanently, it would extend over the saddle.
I guess you could cut the length down to around 3/4 of an inch and leave them in place for good. But the downside is that you'd have to buy a set for every guitar and as you know they are not exactly cheap.
The other idea of varnishing the inside of the bridge holes has actually worked out quite well and has made the StringTubes almost obsolete. The only thing I am not yet convinced is how many restringings you can do before the holes need to be revarnished. But so far, so good. |
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Location: 6 String Ranch | There is a new epoxy varnish that is supposed to be real good, but like all great things, it's down side is that it takes 48 hours to dry. |
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Location: Hot Springs, S.D. | Sweetwater T. I don't remember how many were made (100?) but they were totally different from any other guitar. Contour bowl with elite soundholes, koa epi, and that great textured paint. |
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Location: The Great Pacific Northwest | I have enough to work on I think... although... I just thought of another so keep'em coming..
Bluebird. Now I realize there were several models called Bluebird.. including a 12-String, but in each case if I had one and some asked "what is that" I would say "It's an Ovation Bluebird".
I guess that's the test. For each model out there... if you owned one.. how would you answer (in one or two words) the question "What model Ovation is that?" My list is essentially a list of those answers. |
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Location: Sydney, Australia | Standingovation - 2015-12-02 1:09 AM Beal - 2015-12-01 7:55 AM But do they shrink to 3 windings when you use a string tube? The StringTube is only used to pull the string through the bridge. You remove it before inserting the string in the post. The StringTube is too long to leave on permanently, it would extend over the saddle. I guess you could cut the length down to around 3/4 of an inch and leave them in place for good. But the downside is that you'd have to buy a set for every guitar and as you know they are not exactly cheap. The other idea of varnishing the inside of the bridge holes has actually worked out quite well and has made the StringTubes almost obsolete. The only thing I am not yet convinced is how many restringings you can do before the holes need to be revarnished. But so far, so good. Wait! String tubes were real!!?? |
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Location: 6 String Ranch | I wouldn't say that the Bluebirds were a model. They were only made for Glen. Never offered to the public |
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Location: sitting at my computer | Mr. Ovation - ... keep'em coming.. Typhoon II Bass (i read the original was called "Williwaw"?) how 'bout the Condor (Storm series-like) synth equipped ES335 archtop? Or are those considered Hammond guitars? also, there was the Ocean Acoustic models - a center sound hole version, and another with multi oval soundholes in the bass and treble bouts. (a precursor to the MOB models???) Would compiling this list be considered a lesson-in-futility or an exercise in... mass-O-chism?!  |
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Location: Frozen Tundra of Minnesota | TAFKAR - 2015-12-01 5:14 PM
Standingovation - 2015-12-02 1:09 AM Beal - 2015-12-01 7:55 AM But do they shrink to 3 windings when you use a string tube? The StringTube is only used to pull the string through the bridge. You remove it before inserting the string in the post. The StringTube is too long to leave on permanently, it would extend over the saddle. I guess you could cut the length down to around 3/4 of an inch and leave them in place for good. But the downside is that you'd have to buy a set for every guitar and as you know they are not exactly cheap. The other idea of varnishing the inside of the bridge holes has actually worked out quite well and has made the StringTubes almost obsolete. The only thing I am not yet convinced is how many restringings you can do before the holes need to be revarnished. But so far, so good. Wait! String tubes were real!!??
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Location: Phoenix AZ | Nancy, with all due respect, you might not want to dismiss it until you hear all the evidence or better yet try it yourself.
You can look it up in the archives it goes back a decade. I first stumbled on this when I had an Ovation with a tight low-E hole on the bridge. It was a bugger to restring with medium gauge. So I took it to a local repair guy to see what could be done. To my amazement he simply took a price of 56 gauge sting and ran it through the hole like a mini rasp. He blew away the sawdust and low an behold problem solved.
But this got me thinking that I had in fact seen sawdust on my own strings when restringing due to the abrasion and two long term potential problems came to mind. Number one, would over the course of dozens and dozens of restringings the holes actually get bored out to be too large and less structurally sound? Or could there even be minute vibrations of the string through the hole causing spurious overtones. More importantly what about the sawdust? Could fine fibers of it be embedding themselves in the windings of my E-A-D-G strings and slightly "muting" the tone?
I used to be a tennis racket stringer and we used fine gauge tubing to feed the strings through stubborn racket holes. So I thought, WHY NOT ??? I gave it a try and I was immediately impressed. Could I really hear a difference? I don't know real from imagined, but I was CONVINCED. Other members here tried my advice and some found it beneficial and others found it a bunch of BS. All I will say is this ... it would be ill advised to dismiss it without trying it yourself. You MIGHT be missing out on an almost free of charge improvement in your guitars tone and longevity of its bridge.
Unfortunately right around the time this started to pick up steam and I was envisioning dollar signs in my dreams I found out that somebody and beaten me to the punch and was already marketing String Tubes. Damn it. So I did not get rich after all, ha ha. But I still find satisfaction that I stumbled on this myself, proved it out and turned on a lot of other OFC members to the same method.
If you want more detailed instructions on how to use the String Tubes just do a search or drop me a line.
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Location: Frozen Tundra of Minnesota | Standingovation - 2015-12-01 10:05 PM
Nancy, with all due respect, you might not want to dismiss it until you hear all the evidence or better yet try it yourself.
You can look it up in the archives it goes back a decade. I first stumbled on this when I had an Ovation with a tight low-E hole on the bridge. It was a bugger to restring with medium gauge. So I took it to a local repair guy to see what could be done. To my amazement he simply took a price of 56 gauge sting and ran it through the hole like a mini rasp. He blew away the sawdust and low an behold problem solved.
But this got me thinking that I had in fact seen sawdust on my own strings when restringing due to the abrasion and two long term potential problems came to mind. Number one, would over the course of dozens and dozens of restringings the holes actually get bored out to be too large and less structurally sound? Or could there even be minute vibrations of the string through the hole causing spurious overtones. More importantly what about the sawdust? Could fine fibers of it be embedding themselves in the windings of my E-A-D-G strings and slightly "muting" the tone?
I used to be a tennis racket stringer and we used fine gauge tubing to feed the strings through stubborn racket holes. So I thought, WHY NOT ??? I gave it a try and I was immediately impressed. Could I really hear a difference? I don't know real from imagined, but I was CONVINCED. Other members here tried my advice and some found it beneficial and others found it a bunch of BS. All I will say is this ... it would be ill advised to dismiss it without trying it yourself. You MIGHT be missing out on an almost free of charge improvement in your guitars tone and longevity of its bridge.
Unfortunately right around the time this started to pick up steam and I was envisioning dollar signs in my dreams I found out that somebody and beaten me to the punch and was already marketing String Tubes. Damn it. So I did not get rich after all, ha ha. But I still find satisfaction that I stumbled on this myself, proved it out and turned on a lot of other OFC members to the same method.
If you want more detailed instructions on how to use the String Tubes just do a search or drop me a line.
See TAFKAR???
StandingOvation, it's not fair to engage in a battle of wits with an unarmed Nan... 
LMAO!!!!!!!!!!! You guys are GREAT!!!! 
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Location: 6 String Ranch | Of course the type of tubing will affect the tone. In order to get the desired effect a polypropylene, the harder the better, should be used. If you can find the tinted stuff it is even better since a black or dark blue will give the wound strings a fuller richness whereas yellows and Reds will be brighter and should be used on the trebles. |
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Location: Frozen Tundra of Minnesota | Beal - 2015-12-02 8:31 AM
Of course the type of tubing will affect the tone. In order to get the desired effect a polypropylene, the harder the better, should be used. If you can find the tinted stuff it is even better since a black or dark blue will give the wound strings a fuller richness whereas yellows and Reds will be brighter and should be used on the trebles.
Have they tried Kevlar yet? Very Supple, very Strong! Inexpensive and easy to work with! |
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Location: south east Michigan | And it goes without saying the Fender's take on String Tubes should be avoided. |
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Location: Boise, Idaho | I recommended using catheters, but the price my urologist charged was way out of line. I then discovered Standing O's real solution. Just buy so many guitars that you hardly ever need to change the strings on any one.. |
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Location: Frozen Tundra of Minnesota | Mark in Boise - 2015-12-02 10:57 AM
I recommended using catheters, but the price my urologist charged was way out of line. I then discovered Standing O's real solution. Just buy so many guitars that you hardly ever need to change the strings on any one..
....There goes the Dew again.... LOL!!!!!!!!!!!!!! |
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Location: 6 String Ranch | Well when the strings go dead, sell the guitar. Of course you only need string tubes on Ovations, Loudens and some Taks.
The Williwaw was the single pickup version of the Typhoon. There was never one made. Basses were Pacific storms, guitars Atlantic. |
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Location: The Great Pacific Northwest | So while we're on the subject... (and I'm sure Bill X and others are banging their heads against the wall wondering what they got themselves into with all these names).... Williwaw, Typhoon, Thunderhead, Hurricane, Tornado.... all that's fine... then..... Eclipse is what type of storm? There's got to be a story there. |
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Location: 6 String Ranch | Had to figure out a way to use all the parts that couldn't be used for natural or sb or the see through colors or things that got screwed up so badly they should be scrapped except they were still structurally sound. Sooooooo, paint them black. This was at the end of the run of the storms so it was use up as much as possible and sell it so you don't have to write it off. Maybe that's where Eclipse came from, or perhaps an eclipse is going dark and being all black with bowl paint achieved that. There was also no sanding and buffing of the finish, lower labor. |
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Location: sitting at my computer | Mr. Ovation - Eclipse is what type of storm? Was the Eclipse actually ever marketed as a member of the "Storm Series"?
Although we OFCers lump the Eclipse in with the "Storm Series" because we're aware of its background... the only Eclipse ad I've ever seen doesn't make any mention of it being a member of the Storm Series, but rather, its advertised as its own distinct model. If it wasn't marketed as a Storm, no need to name for a storm. 
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Location: The Great Pacific Northwest | Beal, I guess the timing was off or it could have been named after the last storm... Sharknado!!!... oh wait.. that had a sequel too... |
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I need some assistance with the Master List
