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CanterburyStrings
Posted 2014-08-27 4:01 PM (#493696 - in reply to #492654)
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Al said he "had to take out a restringing order".

What kind of strings?
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Darkbar
Posted 2014-08-27 4:16 PM (#493697 - in reply to #493696)
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Geostorm98
Posted 2014-08-27 4:20 PM (#493698 - in reply to #493691)
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10/4 OMA the simplest explanation is usually correct.

The factory closed.

At any rate, we shall carry on. We are non conformists. We don't follow the herd. We play what sounds and feels best and to hell with conventional wisdom.
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kavalero
Posted 2014-08-27 6:40 PM (#493701 - in reply to #492654)
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Not really sure about the reasons for what the OP asked about, but this is certainly a very friendly site with lots of knowledgeable people willing to share their knowledge.

Cheers
Doug
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SOBeach
Posted 2014-08-27 7:29 PM (#493703 - in reply to #493696)
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CanterburyStrings - Al said he "had to take out a restringing order".

I caught that too, but wasn't sure if it was a Freudian slip or an intentional joke ...either way, it made me chuckle. 

 

of course my fermented mind immediately imagined....

 

Da Judge:  What? A restringing order?

 

Al:  Yes please judge, that guy has been wound way too tight for way too long. He's so high-strung, he's snapped a couple times already. And now he's developed a totally unpleasant tone. 

 

Da Judge: Restringing order granted. Bailiff, find some extra mellow nylon heavy gauge.


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GaryB
Posted 2014-08-27 7:44 PM (#493705 - in reply to #492654)
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Dave Kell, I share your thoughts, and you said it well. I think hosting and monitoring a forum isn't easy. I wouldn't want to do it. This is a well run forum, relatively easy to access and use. I've been defensive here once or twice, got my undies in a twist. Probably mostly my fault. I still enjoy coming here. There's a wealth of information, and the members are usually friendly and generous with that information. I don't post often, but I like checking in. I've yet to find a perfect world.
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nerdydave
Posted 2014-08-27 7:58 PM (#493707 - in reply to #492654)
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I personally like the friends you haven't met!!
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Beal
Posted 2014-08-27 9:03 PM (#493709 - in reply to #492654)
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Way happened? Everything got said, it got boring, Miles threw a shitfit and the Usual Suspects went somewhere else. Then Fender bought Ovation and fucked it all up and shot it in the head. So now it's pretty much a historical place where we can talk about what was. Sometimes I come here but mostly I don't cause I look forward. Most of all the questions have been asked and answered. Been there, done that.
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Old Man Arthur
Posted 2014-08-27 9:07 PM (#493710 - in reply to #492654)
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I just got another Composite Acoustics guitar...

Do you think that we could get Peavey to buy Ovation?
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Mr. Ovation
Posted 2014-08-27 9:14 PM (#493711 - in reply to #492654)
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Hi.. Yes a bought another business, but Lisa runs it, as she has for the past couple of years so no real change. I'm on here every day, several times a day, along with several other forums I belong to. Unless I have something to contribute, I stay out of it. I think I've done that from the start.

As far as the "social" vs "factual" base... Although Al and I have a different view of the the degrees of social vs factual, I think we agree that this site was never supposed to be one or the other exclusively.

I really don't have much to add to what Al posted. People seem to forget that the "hey day" was also a hey day for the scum of the earth. At least two (that we know of) "contributing members" are wearing orange suits these days, or at least they were at last check. Nothing to do directly with the Ovation Fan Club... but they were here... stealing where they could, scamming where they could... oh it was such fun back then... not...

I guess what really gets me about the factory closing is I can only imagine what a gathering would be like today if they re-booted the lines instead of giving them the boot. There are some serious hard-core Ovation nerds out there.. and the wealth of knowledge that has been collected now... what an event it would be. But alas... that's not going to happen.

Most every member now is greeted and welcomed and we appreciate their input, especially if they stick around.

Bottom line... This forum, this website, is keeping the brand alive. I don't usually take credit for such things, but there is no denying it. If the brand ever comes back to the USA, I'm sure this site will be responsible for it, because there is no other place on the web to gauge interest in the brand.

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FlySig
Posted 2014-08-27 9:52 PM (#493712 - in reply to #492654)
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I thought things here took an uptick after the factory closed. People felt some loss and came here to reconnect with fellow O/A fans. There has been a flurry of activity on the BFLG page and what seems to be an increase in activity with buying/selling.

It seems there have been more new members recently than we used to get.

With the closing of the factory there just isn't anything new to discuss. No new designs, such as when the LX came out. No new anniversary or collector's editions. No new custom orders. No new factory tours. No new Mothership refurbs.

I think we will see an increase in discussions about mods and repairs now that Mother has very limited capabilities. Probably we'll see discussions about 3rd party preamps. We'll see more questions about rebuilding badly damaged guitars.
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nerdydave
Posted 2014-08-27 11:59 PM (#493723 - in reply to #492654)
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I still think this site has something to offer and I will continue visiting it. Where else can you find a group so dedicated to the guitars we so dearly love??
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DanSavage
Posted 2014-08-28 12:05 AM (#493725 - in reply to #493709)
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cwk2 - 2014-08-27 7:03 PM
Most of all the questions have been asked and answered. Been there, done that.


Why did Ovation route a shallow section out of the center portion of the underside of the bridges?



Edited by DanSavage 2014-08-28 12:09 AM
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Cripple Rick
Posted 2014-08-28 12:09 AM (#493726 - in reply to #492654)
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Lots of emotion here.

I was in the audience when Tommy Emmanuel gave this advice on learning a new piece of music.......'decide what you want, work it out, and then practice it Very slowly'.

I'm a new-be here (and I like the site), but it seems to me that the new Old Guard (administration) needs to decide what this site is going to be, work out the details/rules/direction, and then hit the Go button. What will happen will happen.
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arumako
Posted 2014-08-28 12:48 AM (#493727 - in reply to #493725)
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DanSavage - 2014-08-27 2:05 PM

cwk2 - 2014-08-27 7:03 PM
Most of all the questions have been asked and answered. Been there, done that.


Why did Ovation route a shallow section out of the center portion of the underside of the bridges?



Inquiring minds want to know! Same scenario with my 1117-4. "Why?" indeed!
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tpa
Posted 2014-08-28 2:14 AM (#493730 - in reply to #493711)
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mileskb - 2014-08-27 9:14 PM
Bottom line... This forum, this website, is keeping the brand alive. I don't usually take credit for such things, but there is no denying it. If the brand ever comes back to the USA, I'm sure this site will be responsible for it, because there is no other place on the web to gauge interest in the brand.


My thoughts also. And thanks for running this site.

MWoody - 2014-08-27 7:53 AM
Be the change you want to see.


Well put. Maybe a bit sharp, but very clear. Nonetheless this thread has drawn the attention of many so it has also been (and still is) valuable in that sense.

Regarding the shallow recess under the saddle my guess is that it is there to limit the amount of glue being squeezed out under the bridge in production. This will mean a thicker adhesive film - which mechanically seen is OK with Epoxy being a relative strong glue - but highly reduce the amount of mess on the soundboard and fixtures to be cleaned afterwards. But, as noted, I am just guessing.
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Darkbar
Posted 2014-08-28 6:13 AM (#493735 - in reply to #492654)
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Nothing about the site has "changed". It still does EXACTLY what it did in it's heyday.

The only thing that has changed are the PEOPLE. The members have the choice to make it a "fun" place to participate in, or a boring cold dry place full of nothing but pertinent OVATION information.

If you go thru the archives, you'll see that in a huge number of threads the original question was answered, then the thread warped in all different directions...often hilarious. At times I've tried to keep that old spirit alive, but I'm usually ignored, and sometimes criticized. Or maybe I'm just not funny.

In any event, this "vehicle" has NOT changed....only the drivers and passengers.
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Beal
Posted 2014-08-28 7:47 AM (#493738 - in reply to #492654)
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They did the little rout for a glue pocket for better adhesion.
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alpep
Posted 2014-08-28 8:34 AM (#493743 - in reply to #493696)
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CanterburyStrings - 2014-08-27 4:01 PM

Al said he "had to take out a restringing order".

What kind of strings?


that was restraining order.


sorry for the typo


but

it should have been piano wire if you get where I am going with that.......
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DanSavage
Posted 2014-08-28 9:13 AM (#493744 - in reply to #493738)
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cwk2 - 2014-08-28 5:47 AM

They did the little rout for a glue pocket for better adhesion.


Thank you. I thought that was the reason.

Fast-drying epoxy, like what is used on these guitars doesn't soak into the wood and instead needs a rough surface area to form a strong glue joint.
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Mark in Boise
Posted 2014-08-28 10:19 AM (#493747 - in reply to #492654)
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Still the same. Bob, you would be funnier if he'd go back to wearing that shirt. OMA could post more half-nude videos and we'd have a lot of the old banter back. At least you guys can change your shirts. I can't change being a Polish lawyer.
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john bange
Posted 2014-08-28 11:10 AM (#493750 - in reply to #493735)
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darkbarguitar - 2014-08-28 6:13 AM

Nothing about the site has "changed". It still does EXACTLY what it did in it's heyday.

I think this is true, at least since I returned to the "brand"...just ebb and flow
I read through the posts this morning, as I do each morning and, I find the banter entertaining and informative. I enjoy the many different personalities.
I then go to the Banjo Hangout. I think the forums there have similar subject volume and often as not, similar reply volume. The Underground Martin forum might have a little more replies to subjects but, as here, you read many different opinions...subtle differences and blunt differences.

see ya tomorrow
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Darkbar
Posted 2014-08-28 12:35 PM (#493751 - in reply to #493747)
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Mark in Boise - 2014-08-28 11:19 AM

I can't change being a Polish lawyer.

With a Porsche. DING!!!
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Mark in Boise
Posted 2014-08-28 1:54 PM (#493756 - in reply to #492654)
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I could sell the Porsche and just drive the Honda. That would get it back to just Polish and lawyer jokes. It would take a long time to sell the Ovations, but I don't care about people who ridicule any of those things anyway. I like being different and I'm very successful at it.
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Darkbar
Posted 2014-08-28 2:34 PM (#493758 - in reply to #493756)
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Actually, you haven't been "dinged" lately (it ain't the same if I have to fake it...)

OMA won't do any more topless videos now that his moobs have gotten so big. Coincidentally, his busking revenue has increased as well

And I donated my gay shirt to Goodwill, but I'm sure I've got SOMETHING in my closet that'll work
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