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Location: Fort Worth, TX | Pics... as requested...
If you want to see more pics of his other builds and reviews from new owners I suggest going to acousticguitarforum.com and searching for Jonathan Conant or Conant Guitar. As for the theory of him rebranding Chinese guitars... I can forward the emails of in progress build pics of a few of the guitars on AGF if it would ease your mind. I'm only following thru with these pics because of the requests. It appears I have all four remaining dreads sold as of a few hours ago. |
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Location: Fort Worth, TX | CanterburyStrings - 2014-06-24 12:57 PM
Not to mention that you are willing to sell yours to finance an O. O's are great as we all know, but if this guy's guitars are so great that the dread sounds like a $30,000 Martin, why would you be selling your OM? Not as good as the dread, huh?
Please tell me where I said it sounds as good as a Martin of any value? Reading for comprehension would reveal I said a luthier here told me the craftsmanship on the top bracing is as good as a thirty grans Martin. |
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Location: Canada | Is there a 12-string available in that 12-fret slothead format? Though the body looks odd and unbalanced with dreadnaught bottom and round shoulders. |
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Location: Always beautiful canyon country of Utah | At least you guys are insulting and decimating poor Dave with love. I do think his heart is in the right place. |
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Location: SoCal | You know, if that guitar sounds half as good as it looks, then it looks twice as good as it sounds....... |
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Location: Fort Worth, TX | GUESS WHAT???!!! I got an email from a member here wanting the last of the five if the tentative buyer doesn't come through. The last thing I'd do is reveal who he is and let you all heap commensurate abuse on him. But at least ONE person might be getting an awesome guitar from a very experienced luthier for a third of its true vale. I should have known better than to post anything woodbox related here I will admit. You guys by and large have a bias completely tilted to O's... which I completely share. It's just in my case being on a lifetime disability income means I can't just run out and buy one whenever I want. Instead I have to sacrifice another guitar I may be very attached to, as I will soon do with Dr. Conant's OM I've had for a year. I don't want to bust up my Conant collection but I am jonesing for another O and have found an aged Balladeer special I want. |
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Location: Fort Worth, TX | merlin666 - 2014-06-24 6:05 PM
Is there a 12-string available in that 12-fret slothead format? Though the body looks odd and unbalanced with dreadnaught bottom and round shoulders.
I'm stumped by the "unbalanced" comment? It is a classic Gibson body style built from ancient Gibson blueprints but with the internal bracing done in the manner of Martins. It honestly is an awesome sounding guitar I've yet to be able to put down for a few months now. The two remaining unsold ones (at least at the time I posted this) have carpathian and Adi tops. I might keep one of thhose and sell my current one at a big discount to someone. Another thing about Dr. Conant. After he builds a guitar if it doesn't satisfy him in every way he commits it to a bandsaw. It has happened already on one I was waiting for for a buyer. No branding them as seconds. My only motive in posting this was to give somebody a chance to add a quality guitar to their stable for a third of its true vale.
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Location: Fort Worth, TX | "In the past we have donated for guitars that were suppose to be ovations and wound up being other brands.
we have provided guitars for members in need that were not in need.
we have bought guitars for over value because a member was in need or ill or a family member was ill.
we supplied instruments for people that claimed they were musicians in need of instruments."
In that case Al, I'd like to submit my medical resume dwgpreacher can confirm when he gets around to replying to this thread and setting the record straight. I was declared totally disabled at age 58 while I still had all three of my kids in college. My income dropped by three fourths. Suddenly I was in extreme financial peril. I traded my only remaining O to dwgpreach for a 13 year old dread of Dr. Conant's based on the sound of the dread alone. Cosmetically it was very loaded with mojo. I am still facing the need for a 19th major surgery but am trying at all costs to avoid it because I spent six months in the hospital with horrendous complications from the last one and was unable to eat a single bite of food for a year afterwards, existing on IV nutrition. I couldn't even watch tv because food commercials literally drove me insane. I'm still flat broke and always will be and have been unable to finish helping my kids with their education expenses which makes me feel like a failure as their father.
Would I qualify for any help with obtaining another O? I find it unconscionable nobody you've helped before ever posted a follow up "thank you" or anything at all. I can assure you I am much more appreciative than that. Early on I had to learn to swallow my pride and LET people help me. As a self employed entrepreneur my whole life that went completely against my grain. A sign industry forum (the business I was in my whole life) raised over five grand for me following one surgery. I have yet to meet any of those people but was very humbled by their donation which literally helped me avoid what would have been the second foreclosure in my life because of my health. I'd take any Elite type guitar with the multi soundholes at any discount in price that could be offered. I feel like a fraud being on this forum now not in poseesion of an O.
If you're really feeling generous I absolutely loved the new prototype O's with the design change! |
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Location: south east Michigan | geez Dave... it was never the kind of thing you submitted an application for.
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Location: Fort Worth, TX | Brad Durasa - 2014-06-25 8:00 AM
geez Dave... it was never the kind of thing you submitted an application for.
It was actually done tongue in cheek.... well, sort of. |
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Location: south east Michigan | "kinda"? ....yeah ... okay... but still ... I think you're mis-reading the room. |
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Location: Keepin' It Weird in Portland, OR | DaveKell - 2014-06-25 5:45 AM
I feel like a fraud being on this forum now not in possession of an O.
Don't be silly.
Ownership is not a requirement. Only Appreciation of the Ovation design.
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Location: Flahdaw | Leave it to DaveKell to start another firestorm on the OFC forum. My hat's off to ya.... |
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Location: Fort Worth, TX | I HAVE TO EMAIL DWGPREACHER AGAIN TO GET HIM IN HERE AS A CHARACTER WITNESS!!! |
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Location: Texas | HEY DWGPREACHER {{{Crickets}}} |
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Location: Fort Worth, TX | amosmoses - 2014-06-26 7:26 AM
HEY DWGPREACHER {{{Crickets}}}
He emailed back that he has been extremely busy as of late but will soon set my record straight. |
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Location: Always beautiful canyon country of Utah | Good ta see a little life here and an almost vitriolic exchange although I would submit that it has thankfully not sunk to that level! |
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Location: Denver, CO | Hey everybody! Its the Preacher, risen from the dead! Hope you are all well, and I've missed you. I have to admit I have been lurking a little, but the schedule doesn't allow me to play on these forums much any more.
I first picked up the Conant I traded to Dave at a used shop here in town, hanging on the wall next to half-a-dozen Taylors Martins and Gibsons, all tagged at significantly higher numbers. Picked a few up and played them, and this one blew them all away. Now, I will be the first to admit I'm an idiot, but that was my impression. Talked to the sales man and he admitted he knew almost nothing about the instrument, but, I quote "It's a really well-built guitar, and I think it would sell for closer to $1200 if it had a "label" on it." I bought the guitar, loved it, played it for a couple of years, had a chance to meet Dr. Conant at his house, sit down with another of his builds, see some other stuff he was working on, and I was VERY impressed.
Now about Dave: We were next door neighbors for years, played in a band together for years, did some business together. I consider him to be one of my very closest friends, and I cannot say I have EVER had an occasion to question his integrity. Yes, he does have a flare for the dramatic, but I would ask you to accept my opinion that you should never need to worry that he would do anything even remotely shady. If Dave is promising you a quality hand-built instrument (and honestly, I think $700 is damn cheap for what you would be getting) at a reasonable price, that is exactly what you will get.
I understand the no-refunds policy, because Dave is not a wealthy man and Dr. Conant is a bit on the eccentric side. I can absolutely understand that is a difficult pill to swallow, for someone who doesn't know Dave and hasn't seen one of Dr. Conant's guitars. And some of your comments are fair from that perspective. However, knowing the instrument, and Dave, as well as I do, I am sure you will find that is not an issue.
Here's my question, in the interest of stirring the bee's nest and all: Are any of you guys pissing all over Dave actually interested in checking out the product, or has this devolving thread just been a game of mud slinging for your own amusement?
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Location: Flahdaw | dwg preacher - 2014-06-26 10:50 AM
or has this devolving thread just been a game of mud slinging for your own amusement?
As if anyone here would EVER stoop to that level.... |
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Location: Texas | "for your own amusement" Since no one else here is amusing, that isn't a fair question. |
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Location: south east Michigan | Boiled down...
Dave posts something he feels there might be a problem with.
Catching up after a busy guitar show weekend Al, the Roundback King of the Land, pretty much suggests the topic be dropped. No... he did not say it directly, but that's the feel I got.
Dave won't let it go.
He got the good doctors name out there. Mission accomplished. No need for the hard sell.
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Location: Fort Worth, TX | Brad Durasa - 2014-06-26 11:13 AM
Boiled down...
Dave posts something he feels there might be a problem with.
Catching up after a busy guitar show weekend Al, the Roundback King of the Land, pretty much suggests the topic be dropped. No... he did not say it directly, but that's the feel I got.
Dave won't let it go.
He got the good doctors name out there. Mission accomplished. No need for the hard sell.
I am amazed at how someone who has never met me can so easily ascribe motives to me. The only "mission accomplished" is that this post has resulted in the impending sale of the last 12 fret dread to an OFC member. As for "not letting it go", I think it's called REPLYING to posts with questions asked which, if I'm not mistaken, is the normal SOP on internet forums. You seem to be the one incapable of letting it go and I'm predicting a swift rebuttal to that from you any second now. |
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Location: Denver, CO | It is a beautiful guitar. I don't care so much for the slope-shoulders, but I like the slothead a lot. That houndstooth purfling is a Conant trademark, but the pearloid rosette is a little more flashy than his typical work. Dave probably didn't say this, but that Gold leaf logo is something Dave designed for Dr. Conant, shortly after they started talking. I see he has updated his label. Is that something you had a hand in, Dave?
Slipkid: Your comment makes a lot of sense, but the feeling I got was he felt his motives and integrity were being unfairly questioned. Honestly, I thought most of this forum was familiar enough with Dave that he would have been allowed a little more grace than that. And that does not make any of the comments on this thread invalid; if you don't know someone, it is always wise to vet them thoroughly before doing business with them. |
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