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moody, p.i.
Posted 2014-11-09 11:00 PM (#500767 - in reply to #500765)
Subject: RE: New Strings


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guitarwannabee - 2014-11-09 7:01 PM

looks like the big secret is finally out
man up bob , it is time for you to come out of the closet. GWB

Yup, in the closet half brother and sister.....
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nerdydave
Posted 2014-11-10 12:07 AM (#500769 - in reply to #487374)
Subject: Re: New Strings


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And Dave Kell himself has already said that he is glad the subterfuge is finally over. You are not, however, welcome to appropriate his finest of Conants!
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tpa
Posted 2014-11-10 1:35 AM (#500772 - in reply to #487374)
Subject: RE: New Strings


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This is going to be a good day.

Edited by tpa 2014-11-10 1:37 AM
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Darkbar
Posted 2014-11-10 6:14 AM (#500775 - in reply to #487374)
Subject: Re: New Strings



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I have NEVER slept with Duane Allman, or even been ON his tour bus!
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Weaser P
Posted 2014-11-10 7:27 AM (#500777 - in reply to #487374)
Subject: Re: New Strings


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Not making that cut wasn't a bad thing, Bob.

Plan B of getting ON the Coco Chanel bus probably was...
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DaveKell
Posted 2014-11-10 8:15 AM (#500778 - in reply to #500775)
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darkbarguitar - 2014-11-10 6:14 AM

I have NEVER slept with Duane Allman, or even been ON his tour bus!


Ever since we've been little kids you've done this thing to rile me. Mom always sat you in a corner for it. Dad always encouraged you and that's why I detest him. Fortunately mom always liked me best. I assure you I told nobody you were my half brother, per our agreement when you turned me onto this place. I'm sorry nerd let the secret out. But to quote Homer Simpson, "what're ya gonna do?"
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nerdydave
Posted 2014-11-10 8:29 AM (#500779 - in reply to #487374)
Subject: Re: New Strings


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There you have it! Straight from the horses's mouth!! Nothing more to say!! Thanks DaveKell for being so honest and forthright about a topic so many would rather see swept under the rug.
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arumako
Posted 2014-11-10 9:44 AM (#500781 - in reply to #487374)
Subject: Re: New Strings



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What the...
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Mark in Boise
Posted 2014-11-10 10:06 AM (#500782 - in reply to #487374)
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Dave, was it your Mom who turned Bob onto those girlie shirts?
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Darkbar
Posted 2014-11-10 12:02 PM (#500783 - in reply to #500782)
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Actually, DaveKell was adopted, after his crackhead mom gave him up. The brain damage wasn't apparent at first, but he's done fairly well, all things considered...
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Mark in Boise
Posted 2014-11-10 12:46 PM (#500785 - in reply to #487374)
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Bob, your Avatar makes me suspect that Dave might not be the stepbrother with the brain damage.
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rick endres
Posted 2014-11-12 8:23 AM (#500831 - in reply to #487374)
Subject: Re: New Strings


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Back on topic here... ^_^

Bob - you said you got the light gauge, I think? I'm getting arthritis in my fretting hand, and I'm looking for something that's E-A-S-Y to play. It's gotten to the point where I've tuned down 1/2 step and have a permanent capo on the first fret (yes, the nut was filed down by a master luthier; it's a 1971 Balladeer that's set up about as perfectly as is humanly possible). I'm using D'addario extra light bronze on it.Tuning down and capoing isn't a real issue; I'm not advanced enough to use the dots on the neck. I also play a lot of James Taylor and Lightfoot, so I use the capo A LOT, and am used to it. But I think I would like to be able to tune to concert pitch like the rest of the kids, and I'm looking for any advice I can get.

Thoughts?
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Darkbar
Posted 2014-11-12 1:48 PM (#500838 - in reply to #487374)
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Well, Rick, I wouldn't say the A/B's are any easier to play than P/B's. I personally don't have an answer for you. I usually always tune down a step and capo up E. THAT is a little easier, but if you don't want to do that, then I can't think of a "softer" string...
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Old Man Arthur
Posted 2014-11-12 3:00 PM (#500843 - in reply to #487374)
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Rick... Have you tried "Silk-n-Steel" strings?
They are very easy to play, almost like nylon.
I have them on my 1114 Folklore and the sound great, and are surprisingly loud.
I got them because SnS strings have a much lighter tension, and the 1114 has had a rough life.
The brand is Martin Marquis M1400.
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rick endres
Posted 2014-11-12 3:32 PM (#500846 - in reply to #487374)
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Arthur - that sounds like a plan. Do you know if they sound good amplified? I read that they're good for fingerpicking, which I do a lot of. Thanks; I may try that on my Balladeer, and possibly my CS257.

Edited by rick endres 2014-11-12 3:36 PM
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Geostorm98
Posted 2014-11-12 3:53 PM (#500847 - in reply to #487374)
Subject: RE: New Strings



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I tried recording with the EB Alum Bronze 12-54 strings. They are very crisp and powerful for fingerstyle and the strumming sound is pretty huge. That said a purist might wish for a softer feel or tone...but with my old ears that are missing some high end these things sounded great recorded straight onto ZoomH2 SD card. The fingerpicking really rang out..sometimes that super crisp sound of changing chords sounds cool on a playback. I really sensed the difference of material, the aluminum bronze is quite a bit brighter, maybe not for everyone though.
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rick endres
Posted 2014-11-13 10:49 AM (#500868 - in reply to #487374)
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GHS makes acoustic silk & steel strings that are gauged 10 to 42 from high to low. That’s an even lighter gauge than the Martins. Might be interesting…

Edited by rick endres 2014-11-13 10:50 AM
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d'ovation
Posted 2014-11-13 1:36 PM (#500874 - in reply to #487374)
Subject: Re: New Strings


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As we are on the string topic ... for you O (in particular 12-string) do you prefer to remove ALL strings (so some cleaning and inspection can be done) before putting on a fresh set, or do you prefer to replace string by string individually to maintain overall tension on the guitar?
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CanterburyStrings
Posted 2014-11-13 2:45 PM (#500875 - in reply to #487374)
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Remove all the strings. Clean the guitar, oil the fretboard. Instruments in he violon family need constant tension simply so the soundpost doesn't fall over. (They are a bear to get back into the right place.) But you don't need to keep tension on the guitar.
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Mark in Boise
Posted 2014-11-13 3:10 PM (#500877 - in reply to #487374)
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99% of the time I do like CS says. It's a good opportunity to clean and oil the fretboard and check things over well. I remember doing it the other way, but can't remember why. Possibly because I only replaced one string, or less likely, that I had recently cleaned and oiled the fretboard.
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Old Man Arthur
Posted 2014-11-13 3:46 PM (#500881 - in reply to #500846)
Subject: Re: New Strings



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rick endres - 2014-11-12 1:32 PM

Arthur - that sounds like a plan. Do you know if they sound good amplified? I read that they're good for fingerpicking, which I do a lot of. Thanks; I may try that on my Balladeer, and possibly my CS257.

Yes, Silk-n-Steel sound good amplified.
They sound different, like any string change.
And they last a long time, which surprised me.
(I thought that I would kill them quickly)

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Leo
Posted 2014-11-15 1:50 AM (#500932 - in reply to #487374)
Subject: Re: New Strings



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Hello Rick,

Have you tunned your guitar with James Taylor sweetened method? It sounds very nice, and tune his guitar a few cents down per string:

http://www.jamestaylor.com/guitar/lesson-five-bonus-video/

If you play fingerstyle, I agree with Arthur that silk and steel is hard to beat, but the king of confort and sound in fingerstyle is the thomastik plectrum, specialized on old instruments, and people looking for easy playing.

Check the sound of this strings:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3xcZKTTbBEQ

Where they sell, and fans opinions:

http://www.juststrings.com/toi-ac111.html

Good luck in your search
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DetlefMichel
Posted 2014-11-15 7:31 AM (#500935 - in reply to #500932)
Subject: Re: New Strings



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I use the THOMASTIK Plectrum .11-50 on all guitars. Especially on 12strings it is a new world, really. These strings need more maintenance (string cleaner like fast fret or similar) than others but sound so much better and are very easy to play and go easy on old guitar tops.
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SOBeach
Posted 2015-04-23 12:14 PM (#509255 - in reply to #487374)
Subject: RE: New Strings


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Last week I picked up a set of the Ernie Ball Aluminum Bronze strings. Put 'em on my daily player, the 1667 Legend cutaway.  I got the Medium Lights (12, 16, 24, 32, 44, 54), 'cause I tune down to D-standard (for my vocal range) and the heavier gauge strings help keep up the tension.

 

Ernie Ball states these strings have "bigger tone" and "more projection than phosphor bronze" and have "enhanced bass tones, punchier mids, and crisp / clear highs."  Well, to my ears, their claims are legit.  I like 'em!  Depending on how long they last, I may have new "favorite" stings. At least for my 1667.

 

Thanks for the recommendation BobG.  

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Geostorm98
Posted 2015-04-23 12:38 PM (#509258 - in reply to #509255)
Subject: RE: New Strings



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I like them a lot SOBeach. I play about an hour/day and have found the strings sound good for around a month or so. At that point I'm ready to change them out and get that crispness back.
PS-I always give them a quick wipe down after use and store my guitar in its case.

Edited by Geostorm98 2015-04-23 12:41 PM
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