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Location: Tennessee | CanterburyStrings - 2013-09-19 11:42 AM stonebobbo - 2013-09-20 10:12 AM Your left hand is what you know. Your right hand is who you are. I LOVE that!! Is that original or did you hear it someplace? Either way, it is more true than anything I've ever heard. May I use it? Not mine! It's something I heard many years ago that has always stuck with me. At one point, I looked to see if it was atrributed to anyone in particular, but to no avail. Absolutely use it, CS. |
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Location: Boise, Idaho | immoody - 2013-09-19 1:37 PM
MWoody - 2013-09-19 10:37 AM
Its all relative... I would call it a Gsus because I would play it along with Csus, F/Dsus and Em+ which works for my mind. Example: 320033 x32033 022033 200233-2 It could also be confused as an anti-social commentary but that has never been my intention. 
Always thought that guitar was the coolest one Ovation never built....
And I thought that was the coolest Ovation Gathering, because it was my first, not counting when Waskel showed up in his leather pants. |
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Location: Denver, CO | Also, Dawg, the "sus" is short for suspended, not for sustained. The 2 or the 4 is "suspended" within the chord, and it replaces the 3rd. Well I told you up front you're gonna call me a moron. Then I went and proved you (me) right.
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Location: Hot Springs, S.D. | Nope, I'd never call you a moron! When I first saw the term all those years ago, I thought it meant sustained too.  |
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Location: Boise, Idaho | I had no idea what it meant. It took me a long time to figure out that a G/D wasn't some kind of G chord divided by a D chord. I called it a G over D. Some of us are just getting here late and struggling to catch up. I probably never will get there, but the exercise is interesting. |
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Location: Upper Left USA | "And I thought that was the coolest Ovation Gathering, because it was my first, not counting when Waskel showed up in his leather pants."
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Location: Boise, Idaho | MWoody - 2013-09-19 6:07 PM
"And I thought that was the coolest Ovation Gathering, because it was my first, not counting when Waskel showed up in his leather pants."
Hey, what happens on the canoe trip STAYS on the canoe trip...
Well, there was that squealing noise, but I thought it was feedback! |
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Location: Central Massachusetts | That was a great gathering. Wonder how gh1 is doing these days. |
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Location: Boise, Idaho | There were a few others that we haven't heard from since. Tim from Idaho and the guy from Hermiston. |
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Location: Northwest Arkansas | AstroDan - 2013-09-19 1:13 PM
mymartind35 - 2013-09-19 9:22 AM A Gsus4 is actually the chord that you add the "A" and the "C". A G with another D added is a G add 5. James Taylor prefers this chord over the "G" as it gets rid of that pesky 3 note. It does sound better with the 5. I think the Gsus4 adds a 4th - "C", a Gsus2 would add a 2nd - "A" Do that with a D chord all the time, A chord too. Even E sometimes I always thought the 320033 was a G add5
I guess I should have been more specific. A Gsus4 just adds the C, but I also add the A making it add two notes of the 4th chord-C. An A without the finger on the 2nd string, second fret is an Asus2. Same goes with a D. If you leave out the F# and let the E ring it's a Dsus2. Sus2 chords are done a lot in Contemporary Christian music. |
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Location: Denver, CO | I guess I should have been more specific. A Gsus4 just adds the C, but I also add the A making it add two notes of the 4th chord-C. An A without the finger on the 2nd string, second fret is an Asus2. Same goes with a D. If you leave out the F# and let the E ring it's a Dsus2. Sus2 chords are done a lot in Contemporary Christian music. I had learned those chords as simply A2 and D2. Yes they are very common in contemporary Christian, and I use them a lot in my own music. A country singer I used to work with used them both with hammer-ons and pulloffs as A2-Am, Am-A2, A-A2, etc etc. I guess I understand now what a G2 is? I've seen it notated but never seen a fingering for it. |
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Location: Hot Springs, S.D. | Try 320203. I have always called that a Gadd9, but 9 and 2 are the same note, in this case an A. It's a really pretty chord. The difference between a "2" and a sus2 is that in the sus2 you have no third, but in a 2 (or add9), you still keep the third. And it sounds a lot better if the 2 and the 3 aren't right next to each other. |
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Location: Suisun City, Ca | Is this forum the best in all the world, or what?
How would you finger that 320203? |
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Location: Hot Springs, S.D. | 3ring finger, 2index, 2middle, 3pinky. It's a little hard to get to at first, but like any other "finger twister", just drill back and forth between it and whatever chord you are playing previous to it. |
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Location: Boise, Idaho | Timely. I've been fussing with Eva Cassidy's "Over the Rainbow" that has the 320203 right after the intro. A lot of times with fingerstyle I see a chord that seems impossible to finger, but I don't use all the notes or can move my fingering while still technically staying on the same chord. Since I normally play a G with my little finger on the high E string, I can have my index finger free to try to get that additional second fret. |
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Location: sitting at my computer | dwg preacher - So laugh at my ineptitude and call me a moron now... Nope, 'cause you're not alone. Others of us here are learnin' too. "Slash chords", well sonofagun! ...so thaaaat's what those are!! found this instructional vid from Andrew Wasson Guitar Theory: Slash Chords - No More Mystery http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HjrVslvtz5U AstroDan - Is this forum the best in all the world, or what? For Ovation fans, absOlutely! |
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Location: Denver, CO | I think I've been playing that add9 like 3x0233, with the free index finger on that A. And yes, Dan, I think this IS the best guitar forum in the world. |
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Location: Texas | Where's Dobro?
I suspect he could tell us the correct names of all of the chords mentioned above, plus different ways to play them, plus hundreds of variations. I envy his deep knowledge of theory (& his playing,) but I've gotten away with, "it's some sorta G" for many years...
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Location: New Bern, NC | My, my, there are a lot of misconceptions here about chords. I see one or two of you got it right. Music theory, love it! A G-chord fingered 3X0033 has no third (B note) and is therefore not a major OR minor chord. You HAVE to have a 3rd to distinguish between major and minor. Chords like this tend to have an "open" sound with no third. I'm not an electric player, but I think "power chords" are like this. You finger the lower strings and there is no 3rd. If there is a 3rd, it's a minor third. If you finger it: 320033 you do get the 3rd of the chord on the 5th string, but it tends to have an "open" sound with the 3rd in the lower register. Adding that D note on the 2nd string is not a suspension. A suspended 2nd chord adds the 2nd note of the chord. For a G-chord that would mean you would add an A note. For a suspended 4th chord you would add the 4th of the chord, thus a C note. When I say 2nd and 4th of a G I am referring to a scale starting from G: G A B C D E F G. A is the 2nd and C is the 4th. Suspensions tend to want to resolve up or down. For example, the G note in the Dsus4 wants to resolve down to F#. The E note in the Dsus2 wants to resolve UP to the F#. Other chords that add other scale notes, usually to "color" the chord are not suspensions because they don't sound like they want to resolve to something else.
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Location: Hot Springs, S.D. | "A suspended 2nd chord adds the 2nd note of the chord. For a G-chord that would mean you would add an A note. For a suspended 4th chord you would add the 4th of the chord, thus a C note."
But you do agree that the 2nd or 4th take the place of the 3rd, right? If you still have the third in the chord, it is an add9 or add11. And of course if you have both the 3rd and a dominant 7th and add the 9 or 11 you just have a plain old 9th chord or 11th chord. |
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Location: Flahdaw | Just had someone jump my case on my Youtube channel 'cos I said "sustained" instead of "suspended".
FWIW, I don't care..... |
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Location: Orlando, FL | Very educational thread, it's been a great read! |
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Location: Chicago | I'm here... learning with the rest! I think the bases are covered: Given a G triad (G B D) you can mix those notes up (invert) however you like, whatever sounds good to the ear. If you play the triad over a specially desired bass note, esp a note NOT in the chord, it is written as a slash chord: G/F = G chord with an F bass. A chord will be "extended" if you keep building in thirds: G B D F (= G7) G B D F A (= G9) etc. Typical extensions are 9, 11, 13. Then there are "altered" chords where you "tweak" one of the tones IN the triad or one of the natural extensions. Example: G B Db F = G7b5; so altered chords are notated G7#9, G7b5b9 etc. Or, you could just drop into the triad whatever note you like, then it is often notated "add": So an open G chord with an "A" on the third string is "G add 9" (or "G add 2". If a chord has replaces the third with the fourth it is "suspended" So the notes in G sus would be GCD. If you have a seventh in the mix it is usually notated G11 (GDFC). Note that a great deal has to do with which octave a note is in. If you play a G chord over a C bass it's better to say G/C. If you are playing the C in a middle register (string 5 or 2) then it might be a G sus. If you are playing the C at the top of the chord over a G7 sound, then it's definitely a G11. Finally, if it's just G and D (no B no C) you'll find it identified as "G5" "Ironman" anyone? |
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Modified G chord: what's it called?
