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QUEEN - Brian, Freddie, John & Roger - Your thoughts?
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| Michael Joseph Kramer |
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Joined: November 2003 Posts: 214 Location: Stratford, Connecticut | Originally posted by standing: Exactly my friend. I thought they were a great band in the day. Brian May is a great guitar player. I thought they tackled some pretty diverse musical styles, often sounding like the a completely different band from one song to the next. (IMHO) I bought the new Queen CD with Paul Rogers, and to me, it sounds like a mediocre Bad Company album. I have nothing against Paul Rogers, it's just not Queen without Freddie Mercury. (again, IMHO) I'm reminded of Todd Rundgren joining The Cars and Dave Mason joining Fleetwood Mac. I love those guys individually, but trying to shape them into something they are not doesn't work. (yet again, IMHO) And that's why the band took soooo long to decide to not only continue with the "Queen" name but to also try and make sure that everyone doesn't come "expecting" QUEEN but QUEEN playing with PR. They always knew that they couldn't be what they ever were... which is why John Deacon flat out refused to participate. He stated at the Freddie Mercury tribute that there is no QUEEN without Freddie and said he was officially retired... that was all their stances back then... but Brian and Roger are not like that. They NEED to tour and enjoy themselves. For most, stopping would be very hard to do. Thanks my friend! MJK | ||
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| Michael Joseph Kramer |
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Joined: November 2003 Posts: 214 Location: Stratford, Connecticut | Originally posted by Dale Lutes: Amen Dale! I'm with you there 100% my friend! I'm a fan of their early material. I think Queen II is hands down their best work. Bohemian Rhapsody spoiled the ride for me and although there was still some good material on A Night at the Operat, I haven't bought any of their subsequent albums. But I guess I do enjoy them a bit more than you generally speaking because it was always worth it to me to buy the new album! And CDs! And DVDs! hahahaha! Thanks! MJK | ||
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| Joe Rotax |
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Joined: February 2008 Posts: 747 | I never took much notice of them - always thought they were a bit middle of the road, mainstream etc. | ||
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| CanterburyStrings |
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Joined: March 2008 Posts: 2683 Location: Hot Springs, S.D. | I was never a fan, but do appreciate their creativity. Because I haven't listened to commercial radio since the mid-seventies, I never got burned out on Bohemian Rhapsody, and I do think it's a great piece. (I use the word piece instead of song, because it is so much more than just a song.) | ||
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| Michael Joseph Kramer |
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Joined: November 2003 Posts: 214 Location: Stratford, Connecticut | Originally posted by PEZ: I knew you did PEZ! I Like them. I just had that feeling! ;^) Thanks brother! MJK | ||
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| Michael Joseph Kramer |
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Joined: November 2003 Posts: 214 Location: Stratford, Connecticut | Originally posted by The Wabbit Formerly Known As Waskel: That's a GREAT place to listen to all that too! From "Death on 2 Legs" to "Lazing on a Sunday Afternoon" to "I'm in Love With My Car". Brilliant. ...and I can listen to it in a dark room. Opens the imagination as well as the ears! hahahaha! Thanks for commenting! MJK | ||
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| Michael Joseph Kramer |
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Joined: November 2003 Posts: 214 Location: Stratford, Connecticut | Originally posted by gulfcoast: Well as Brian and Roger have said.... I agree its a different thing without Freddie and i was/am a fan. I just think its few and very far between that a band that big can bring in a different singer and pull it off that good. It all gones back to the fact that they are great songs. Paul is an "all around great" singer... moreso bluesy and smokey sounding but with a great range so he can actually sing a lot of the material very well. I know that they do tune down sometimes though, for certain songs, because there's just no way Paul could ever pull off some stuff. Or they leave it out completely, as they should.. if it's a "Freddie only" song.. Paul shouldn't be singing it. And "live" actually... Freddie comes up on the big screen... kicks off and sings along with the band... like that Elvis tribute band.. the REAL Elvis band.. when they play to Elvis on the screen. They do that with Freddie and end the songs with Paul... very classy! Thanks! MJK | ||
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| Michael Joseph Kramer |
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Joined: November 2003 Posts: 214 Location: Stratford, Connecticut | Originally posted by Mr. Ovation: Exactly and Amen brother! It's seems every band has their "Bohemian Rhapsody" but I have to admit, that's what got me to listen to them in the first place. Simply brilliant musicians, writers and performers. Comparing Queen to ANY other genre is fruitless as it's just Queen. It's not Rock, Metal, Pop or anything else... It's Queen. As far as the Paul Rogers and Danny Miranda lineup, I know Danny and it's a great gig, but they should not have used the name Queen. They could have called it Paul, Brian and Friends or whatever... but it's not Queen, not close, not even. I'm a huge Paul Rogers fan, but there was more to Queen than hitting the notes and playing the tunes. Freddy's delivery and performance was just as much part of the show, and he's one of the few performers where you could hear his personality even in the studio recordings. It's a little different with a group like the Who. As Roger D has been quoted, that not matter who is playing drums and bass, He and Pete still hear John and Keith.... and the audience does too. For some groups, it's all or mostly about the Music. The Who is an example of that. For other groups, like Queen, FZ, even the Stones who I have no use for or the Beatles or Elvis. They are all examples of artists or groups that were much more than the some of their musical catalog and just can't be replaced or re-packaged. I agree wholeheartedly with you. And Danny is a great guy.. I was doing shoots for Blue Oyster Cult before and then after he joined Queen and he was always great at the East Coast shows I got to go to and hang during the soundchecks and whatnot. They're all truly close.... very much like a family... of course they want to keep that "machine" going because otherwise the SAS band has to hire Danny to play bass! hahahaha! Or he has to beg Buck for his old gig back! hahahaha! I'm just joking... no one should blame him for taking the "Queen" gig... that's for sure! Thanks for commenting Mr. O! MJK | ||
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| Michael Joseph Kramer |
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Joined: November 2003 Posts: 214 Location: Stratford, Connecticut | Originally posted by Joe Rotax: Yea, that's the myth created by too much radio airplay or whatever with any band.. but Queen aren't truly mainstream at all. If anything, they helped CREATE the stream. I never took much notice of them - always thought they were a bit middle of the road, mainstream etc. They pioneered so many things in their career... the 1st music video I believe? One of the 1st bands to do soundtracks to major motion pictures.... One look at their Wikipedia will show probably just a fraction of their total information.. and it's a HUGE Wikipedia! Check it out http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Queen_band I know QUEEN: The Magic Years Vol 1, 2 and 3 definitely go over each and every one of their pioneering accomplishments up until it was produced.. it's definitely worth checking out. That's the problem I've noticed. When something is "legendary" or "magical" all over the world... usually here... in the good ol' USA.... it's BLAH or MAINSTREAM! hahahahaha! Go figure! Thanks so much for the comment! MJK | ||
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| Michael Joseph Kramer |
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Joined: November 2003 Posts: 214 Location: Stratford, Connecticut | Originally posted by CanterburyStrings: Someone who isn't burned out on "Bohemian Ehapsody"... now that is definitely an accomplishment! Hahahahaha! I was never a fan, but do appreciate their creativity. Because I haven't listened to commercial radio since the mid-seventies, I never got burned out on Bohemian Rhapsody, and I do think it's a great piece. (I use the word piece instead of song, because it is so much more than just a song.) Thanks for your comment! MJK | ||
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| FlySig |
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Joined: October 2005 Posts: 4081 Location: Utah | Been a fan for a long time. Now my 16 yr old plays a solo acoustic version of "Bohemian Rhapsody" on her Ovation. One of my most memorable dates in high school involved a Queen song on the car radio in a rainstorm. | ||
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| Michael Joseph Kramer |
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Joined: November 2003 Posts: 214 Location: Stratford, Connecticut | Originally posted by FlySig: That's great! You should YouTube her doing it and put it up! I LOVE seeing kids into Queen! Especially that they can do renditions of BoRhap on an Ovation! That's awesome! Been a fan for a long time. Now my 16 yr old plays a solo acoustic version of "Bohemian Rhapsody" on her Ovation. One of my most memorable dates in high school involved a Queen song on the car radio in a rainstorm. [/QB] Wait wait... ahhhh yea... eh hem... okay... I got the lotion and the kleenex! Please continue with the Queen song on the radio story! Pretty please? Thanks! hahahahhahaha! MJK | ||
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Joined: October 2005 Posts: 4081 Location: Utah | Originally posted by Michael Joseph Kramer: Her name was Deirdre, though she went by Didi. It was one of the worst but funniest dates I ever had. We had been friends for years, and finally decided to date. What a disaster! But we laughed through it and then decided just to stay friends. Please continue with the Queen song on the radio story! Pretty please? Thanks! hahahahhahaha! At one point we were driving around with the windows down, singing "We Are the Champions" at the top of our lungs to the radio. And that's all I'm going to say about that.. | ||
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| enders UKII |
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Joined: August 2008 Posts: 90 Location: los angeles | OK, I'm back but not confused, definitely, I think, maybe, don't know for sure. Listen to Bohemian Rhapsody and listen to "One Night in Paris" off of "Original Soundtrack" by 10CC which came earlier and I think you'll get my drift. But. . . it's all irrelevant for me now because I can't listen to any of it anymore - just burned out on all of that early 70's stuff. But never did like Queen, hated the guitar work (I respect Brian May but I don't like it - how is that?) It's good to be controversial. Bob | ||
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| Losov |
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Joined: October 2008 Posts: 489 | Now THIS one I will address. Disc jockeys from time immemorial have done send ups and jokes. When I first heard "Bohemian Rhapsody" that's exactly what I thought it was - some kind of joke. No, this really was a serious release by a group called - Queen. I couldn't believe it. I further couldn't believe all the success they were having with it. I have never enjoyed one note, one syllable of Queen's music. And I still don't get it. | ||
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| Waskel |
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Joined: February 2005 Posts: 11840 Location: closely held secret | Have you ever heard "'39" or "Good Company"? | ||
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| GaryB |
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Joined: August 2007 Posts: 494 Location: Location Location Location | Ah, see, I didn't get it before, Losov. Shame on me. You're the resident music guru. I'm not as deep as you. When someone asks me what I think, I figure they want to know what I think. I'll have to explore the other possibility that you posed; that when someone asks me my opinion, they really want to tell me what THEY think. Was that what you said?? Very clever of you, I think.. I'll just have to pay more attention to your pearls of wisdom from here on, and see if I can learn something about the devious ways of human nature, and uh..oh yeah...music... :rolleyes: | ||
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| Beal |
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Joined: January 2002 Posts: 14127 Location: 6 String Ranch | They did the music for Wayne's World, didn't they? Great movie........... | ||
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| Michael Joseph Kramer |
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Joined: November 2003 Posts: 214 Location: Stratford, Connecticut | [/qb]Her name was Deirdre, though she went by Didi. It was one of the worst but funniest dates I ever had. We had been friends for years, and finally decided to date. What a disaster! But we laughed through it and then decided just to stay friends. At one point we were driving around with the windows down, singing "We Are the Champions" at the top of our lungs to the radio. And that's all I'm going to say about that.. [/QB] Well here's to DiDi my friend! Any You! Cheers for a good memory that seems will last a lifetime! Blessings brother! Thanks for sharing! MJK | ||
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| Michael Joseph Kramer |
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Joined: November 2003 Posts: 214 Location: Stratford, Connecticut | just burned out on all of that early 70's stuff. But never did like Queen, hated the guitar work (I respect Brian May but I don't like it - how is that?) Haahaaahaaaahaaahaaa! It's good to be controversial. Bob [/QB] Ahhhhh controversy! If you say so, Bob! Good luck with that brother! I don't feed into drama personally, but I have respect for people who desire to! hehh hehheeee! Blessings my friend! Burnt out on 70s music! I love it! MJK | ||
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| Michael Joseph Kramer |
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Joined: November 2003 Posts: 214 Location: Stratford, Connecticut | Originally posted by Losov: Haahaa haaaa! Now THIS one I will address. Disc jockeys from time immemorial have done send ups and jokes. When I first heard "Bohemian Rhapsody" that's exactly what I thought it was - some kind of joke. No, this really was a serious release by a group called - Queen. I couldn't believe it. I further couldn't believe all the success they were having with it. I have never enjoyed one note, one syllable of Queen's music. And I still don't get it. I think Losov's member number is what is really "tell tale" here! He must be the resident prankster... the one who likes to ruffle everyone's feathers? No? Si? LOL Just kidding! Hey... some people just don't get it. That's totally understandable! What's common sense to one person is a completely different language to another! Good luck with Losov! If you even need luck? Thanks for commenting! MJK | ||
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| Michael Joseph Kramer |
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Joined: November 2003 Posts: 214 Location: Stratford, Connecticut | Originally posted by Beal: Yea, but that was just one song! They did the music for Wayne's World, didn't they? Great movie........... If you like that, or even don't.... Check out the Highlander soundtrack! Or even the Flash Gordon soundtrack! Or even any of their 15 studio albums... 5 live albums... or even their band or individual albums or complilations.... then let me know what ya think about THAT! Heh heh! Oh... also tell me what you think about THIS performance from Live Aid 1985: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tTzZdIfBxrY The day when Queen ruled the whole world - and the world went crazy. Live Aid held at Wembley on July 13, 1985. This was so big, They stole the whole show - one of my biggest moment, and still today it makes me smile. So I make this 10 minutes remix from Live Aid:[/QB] | ||
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| Michael Joseph Kramer |
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Joined: November 2003 Posts: 214 Location: Stratford, Connecticut | I was never an opera fan. Of course Freddie getting involved in it with Monserrat Caballe helped to peak my interest. They did a rockish Soul filled Opera album called Barcelona.... worth checking out. Also I was never big into Pavarotti but I certainly respected his talents and how much physical work it must take to perform like he did in his life.... This video actually got to me a bit: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l1hFslY6oVw Brian May of Queen wrote it and Freddie recorded a version of it while he was sick and dying. He never stopped making music as long as his health gave him even enough strength, he went on with the show... on stage or in the studio... he always did his best to be there working! And this was at a time when there were no drugs or even knowledge of what was indeed wrong with him.... so put that in your pipe and smoke it homey! Hee hee! Thanks! MJK | ||
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Joined: December 2008 Posts: 1456 Location: Texas | Ok, I'm going to go out on a limb here and take a wild guess that Michael Joseph Kramer is just a little bit of a fan of Queen… I'm enjoying your wild enthusiasm Michael. I have long held my own opinion about the meaning behind the lyrics of Bohemian Rhapsody, I'd be curious what a true Queen devotee says it's about? | ||
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| Mr. Ovation |
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Joined: December 2001 Posts: 7247 Location: The Great Pacific Northwest | Before MJK takes a stab at it... I'm curious if my impression of most of their music all these years has been correct or not. I think "Queen" was more than a cool name. While some of the songs have a "meaning" deeper than what's on the surface... mostly they just wrote "Queen'd" up music. As in drama queen, as in over the top stories. Rhapsody, Killer Queen, Fat Bottom girls, Bicycle, Flash, We will Rock You, etc etc etc.. Just amp'd up, camp'd up, theatrical rock. Again except for a few... no hidden meaning, no hidden agenda, just pick a topic, no matter how silly or important, and ride that line between cartoon and brilliant. A Queen song is to any other song, what Arnold Rimmer's salute is to any other salute. It is what it is, and while you and I couldn't do it with any amount of dignity and a straight face... they get away with it.. they pull it off.. | ||
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QUEEN - Brian, Freddie, John & Roger - Your thoughts?