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Location: Florida Central Gulf Coast | I guess he didn't like the color... |
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Location: Colorado Rocky Mountains | I saw a replay of the act and thought it was senseless and a waste of an otherwise good guitar, but didn't give it much thought thereafter. I wonder how much longer the promoters and Gibson will continue to provide guitars if the recipients just destroy them? |
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Location: VENISE-EN-QUEBEC CANADA | Garth Brook use to smash guitar to!!!!! :confused:
and what a DUM A_ _ move from Busch dont like im period :mad:
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Location: Nashville TN. | Maybe he was upset it was better than a Hamer?? |
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Location: On the Coast - Halfway between SF & OR | Wow, such reactions to a very talented kid having some fun with his crew. It was his guitar to do with as he pleased, it was done in fun and friendship for the crew not malice or anger (if you had seen more than the edited film clip that would be clear) and as for charity, he and the foundation he started back in 2006 does a lot more for kids than I imagine any of you who feel it's necessary call him some profane name. |
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Location: VENISE-EN-QUEBEC CANADA | well he could of auction off the guitar for is charity instead of breaking it,would of been less painfull for use guitar lover
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Location: On the Coast - Halfway between SF & OR | Originally posted by flag72:
well he could of auction off the guitar for is charity instead of breaking it,would of been less painfull for use guitar lover
Daniel ;) True - but that's like saying drivers could auction off the tires on their winning car instead of destroying them in a post race burn-out. But the burn-outs are fun and joyous and cause no harm to anyone (unless I guess, you really love tires). I for one, love seeing that amount of joyous emotion. Can any of this be seen as a violent act? I guess, by some, but I really feel sorry for anyone that jaded. |
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Location: Florida Central Gulf Coast | Why didn't he bust up his other trophies and share the shards? I wonder if he kept the PU assy... 
His trophy... his to do with it as he pleases... still an azzclown IMO! |
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Location: The Great Pacific Northwest | "It was probably a promotional stunt anyway!!"
Bing Bing Bing Bing Bing Bing !!!!
We have a winner!!!!
Would this thread, or the gazillion others, along with video, exist how Kyle if he just took his trophy and went home? Hell, I didn't even know there was a Nascar Race the other day and I never heard of this guy until his name was.....
EVERYWHERE!!!!!
And all it cost was a guitar... you couldn't buy this amount of marketing/exposure for ANY price that Gibson, Nascar, and Kyle are getting for only cost a couple of thousand bucks...
Ah the wheels of gorilla marketing at work.. makes me heart a quiver. |
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Location: NW of Philadelphia | The guitar trophy is promotional, that is true. But other driver has ever smashed one. The custom Gibson LP for winning Nashville and the Grandfather Clock "trophy" are considered "must haves" by NASCAR drivers. Lets see him do that to the "Grandfather Clock" that they give to the winner (either Richmond or Martinsville).
Regardless of whether or not its his trophy... its classless and shows a complete lack of respect for the company and people that made it.
What if the people that made it are die-hard NASCAR or K. Busch fans? Do you think they still are? If I were Gibson, I would refuse to make anymore for NASCAR. Give him a him 4" plastic kids trophy, to him it means the same and tell him where to stick it! |
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Location: Vernon CT | Oops?!?!?! I'm sorry, I thought this was the Ovation Fan Club. :rolleyes: |
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Location: Blue Ridge Mountains | Fletcher...my comment was directed at Bush, not you or any of the other NASCAR fans out there...
I lived and worked in Nashville for several years...I have friends who work at Gibson and know what it meant to them to have one of their guitars represent them on a national stage like that...and to have this dumb wit wee in their faces is disgusting...it has nothing to do with the suits at Gibson Corporate at all...it has everything to do with the men and women who take pride in something that’s Made in America...a slogan that is becoming less and less appropriate...
He's lucky it was a Gibson.
If it had been on Ovation he would now have a black eye and damaged teeth after it rebounded and hit him in the face!!
AJ
AJ, that is pretty true...but, If that had been an Ovation or an Adamas...this thread would be approaching the length of the infamous Insomniac Pop Quiz thread...and you know it...
It's his; he can do whatever he wants...What a tired old justification for selfishness.
Sure it is; and he can and did...
But suppose we take a minute and consider that someone or something might be better served...like one of the kids he purports to be helping getting a great guitar or better yet, sell/auction it and give the money...but instead to be reckless with our freedoms is pathetic and reduces us to Neanderthal levels...
And if that represents NASCAR, I want nothing to do with it...
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Location: Hot Springs, S.D. | Give it to a kid!!!! :mad: :mad: :mad: |
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Location: Keepin' It Weird in Portland, OR | Originally posted by CanterburyStrings:
Give it to a kid!!!! :mad: :mad: :mad: Amen.
[He didn't even look cool smashing it... Looked kinda lame actually] |
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Location: Copenhagen Denmark | I make an amp. , it gets destroyed , I build another one.. No big deal , the Gibby craftsmen crying about a git. that they made .. ? .. Oh Please .. |
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Location: Blue Ridge Mountains | No one said anything about crying...it's called pride in workmanship and the fellow that put hours into painting the guitar I am sure shares those sentiments...for what it's worth, when I was younger and Townshend and the Who smashed all of those guitars and equipment, I thought they were jerks as well...we couldn't afford the stuff they destroyed w/o thinking and to this day, I remember how it felt... |
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Location: Copenhagen Denmark | Music , I understand how ya feel , as far as pride in workmanship goes , yeah I know about that , after sleepless nights and tons of coffee , having constructed an amp. that simply sounds good , no-matter what it`s driving , and , then to see it go up in smoke just `cause of some ninny , does give a sting in the heart , yet , it only induces me to build a better one ... I mean , as long as it aint any of your precious gits. ..., I know .... it is a shame , but ...
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Location: south east Michigan | I've done alot of reading on Townshend & The Who. Even back when I was 16 there were other kids that thought smashing a guitar was a foolish thing to do. I won't argue the foolishness of the act in general but I will suggest that when put into context, Townshends trademark is a natural extention and logical conclusion of how he played. That and the fact that he always tried act as a mirror the audience. He saw aggression in the crowd then reflected it back.
Townhend also had a long history of smashing a guitar for charity. One I heard of just a few months ago. However he said thats it... he won't do that anymore.
As you all know by now, I have seen every Detroit Who show since 1970. That first show in 1970 was the only time I've seen a guitar smashed.
But... I digress.
I'm with Dave. It's his. He can do what he wants and deal with the results.
I bet this is getting more attention here than over at the Gibson Fanclub.
Is the such a thing as a Gibson Fanclub??? |
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Location: Tennessee | "without thinking"
Folks, it was a show. Everyone on that stage knew what was going to happen. The TV announcer knew what was coming. The Gibby guy who handed over the guitar knew what was coming. It was a show. It was planned. The guitar was probably a stunt double anyway. I recently did an industry event in Nashville where the host company had some "limited edition" Gibson guitars painted for some lucky recipients in attendance. The guitars were unplayable pieces of crap even if they had a custom paint job.
Word has it, The Shrub (or "Rowdy" Busch, as he likes to call himself), went to the Gibson factory and commissioned two guitars earlier in the week on the likely chance he would get to do this. Nobody from Gibson seems to be outraged. BTW ... the news reports say that Sam Bass, the guy who paints the trophys, applauded and was quoted as enjoying the show.
Let's be consistent here. Where was all the righteous indignation with the Trebuchet incident or the "booting" of the Celebrity? Everyone seemed to think THAT was pretty hilarious. What's the difference on this one? |
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Location: Utah | Originally posted by MusicMishka:
I lived and worked in Nashville for several years...I have friends who work at Gibson and know what it meant to them to have one of their guitars represent them on a national stage like that...and to have this dumb wit wee in their faces is disgusting...it has nothing to do with the suits at Gibson Corporate at all...it has everything to do with the men and women who take pride in something that’s Made in America...a slogan that is becoming less and less appropriate... That was my thought, too. Lot's of people taking pride in manufacturing a product in the USA, and having hopes riding on the national exposure of their product, and then having the guitar smashed. It kind of cheapens their guitars' image.
I see it as an insult to the people who made the guitar |
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Location: south east Michigan | Where was all the righteous indignation with the Trebuchet incident or the "booting" of the Celebrity? Everyone seemed to think THAT was pretty hilarious. What's the difference on this one?
Awww.. just when I was having such a good time pointing out other peoples faults Bobbo has to go and point out my own.
Whatta buzz kill. |
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Location: Blue Ridge Mountains | Artist Sam Bass ‘heartbroken’ over Kyle Busch’s guitar smash...
Sam Bass, the longtime NASCAR artist who painted the Gibson guitar smashed by Kyle Busch after the Nashville Nationwide Series race on Saturday night, said he was “stunned and heartbroken” to see his work destroyed in victory lane.
Though Busch immediately told Bass he “meant no disrespect” to anyone – the artist, Gibson or the track – Bass said Monday he’s struggled to accept the incident.
“It’s like raising a child,” Bass said. “You start out with nothing and you finish it and you hope people will take care of it. And it was stunning, absolutely stunning to see that thing destroyed within seconds of him getting it.”
Bass said Busch told him he would order two more guitars from Gibson to be painted like the one that got smashed, and the artist said he understood the “rock-star thing” Busch was trying to accomplish.
“It’s his trophy, he can choose to do with it what he wants,” Bass said. “But I’m not going to lie about it. If he had asked me, ‘Hey, I’m thinking about destroying that trophy guitar whenever I win it, what do you think,’ of course I would have told him, ‘No! Please don’t. Let us give you a prop guitar.’”
The Gibson guitar has become the symbol of Nashville Superspeedway, and the one Busch smashed was the 30th designed by Bass, who said the trophy has come to be “a very revered piece of history … and revered by the fans here in Tennessee.”
Seeing Busch smash the guitar after getting out of the car upset both fans and sponsors. Bass noted that representatives from race sponsor Federated Auto Parts walked out of victory lane after Busch’s act.
Bass estimated that he and Gibson put “hundreds and hundreds of hours” of work into the guitar, which is so unique that “you can’t just buy this thing right off the shelf.”
“A guitar might be a guitar and he might have seen rock stars destroy them and things like that, but at the same time, this is a trophy,” Bass said. “You wouldn’t think he would destroy the Daytona trophy or the Brickyard trophy or something like that.
“This is much more than just a guitar somebody plays at a concert and beats the hell out of when they’re done. It symbolizes something much bigger, much greater – and that’s the part I don’t think he thought all the way through.”
After the race, Bass smiled in pictures with Busch and told reporters he was OK with Busch’s act. He said his feelings haven’t changed and he has no interest in criticizing Busch for what happened, preferring instead to stick to a personal philosophy of always taking the high road.
“I’m not going to accost him in victory lane or fuss at him and berate him,” Bass said. “If he told me he meant no disrespect, I’m going to take him at his word that he meant no disrespect.”
But Bass couldn’t help but wonder what would have happened if the situation were reversed.
“What if I won a contest to win Kyle Busch’s car?” he said. “Let’s say the crew prepares it and everything else and I accept it at an awards ceremony and just start beating the hell out of it.
“I don’t think they would appreciate that, it would hurt their feelings that they put their work and time and energy and effort into it.”
And what if Busch races at Nashville again next year?
“I joked with someone that if Kyle’s in the show, we’ll make an exact replica – only it’ll be a pillow,” he said. So much for a planned stunt...what a waste... |
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Location: South of most, North of few | A waste it was. There are people who would sell their soul for that guitar. There are people who deserve to have that guitar. I used to love nascar, back when it was actually racing. Back when the "S" stood for "Stock". Now it's just a place for corporate sponsors to advertise their logos. All the cars are the same template, and basically the same engine, just different decals. And those STUPID wings on the back. Car of tomorrow,...right! The manufacturers should be made to run the crap they make. V6 front wheel drive sedans. Doesn't matter, soon there will only be Toyota and Ford when GM takes the last nail in it's coffin. Maybe Hyundai will join the fray....
Ok, I've said my piece.
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