|
|
Joined:
January 2002
Posts: 14127
Location: 6 String Ranch | the discoloration is probably just some glue film or something cosmetic like that. The lines look like it could have been tape on the area and the adhesive attacked the finish ;eaving the lines there. It looks like it is still all intact, just looks a little ugly.
I'd say it's all cosmetic and not worry about it. Of course, I could be wrong, but I don't think so.
The way would be to see if there are any seems on the inside drom cutting etc. |
|
| |
|
Joined:
November 2007
Posts: 1486
Location: Cincinnati | Originally posted by lanaki:
high bid has been retracted due to seller changing the description. you got that right |
|
| |
|
Joined:
October 2006
Posts: 5575
Location: big island | i asked the seller about the questionable binding on the treble side upper bout. see his response on the auction page. things just don't add up... |
|
| |
|
Joined:
December 2006
Posts: 6268
Location: Florida Central Gulf Coast | Beal,
I've heard that the MS is no longer set up to reproduce the 'gold sparkle'. Do ya know? |
|
| |
|
Joined:
November 2007
Posts: 1486
Location: Cincinnati | Originally posted by lanaki:
i asked the seller about the questionable binding on the treble side upper bout. see his response on the auction page. things just don't add up... Totally agree. He bought it new, never had it repaired, yet even says it looks repaired. |
|
| |
|
Joined:
December 2006
Posts: 6268
Location: Florida Central Gulf Coast | Music Mike posted that this is a '78 and this guy says he bought it new in '82... could happen, I guess.
Sumpin' just ain't right here with all the backpedaling! |
|
| |
|
Joined:
January 2002
Posts: 14127
Location: 6 String Ranch | don't know
and yes there seem to be holes in his story. |
|
| |
|
Joined:
June 2007
Posts: 3084
Location: Brisbane Australia | FRG?? :eek:
AJ |
|
| |
|
Joined:
March 2005
Posts: 5563
Location: Blue Ridge Mountains | This has got to be the "sweetest" sounding Adamas I have (comparing with old, new and slotheads).
I would have to agree with that; my '78 #189 is the best sounding Adamas I own...I too got it for a crazy cheap price; even after having a bit of setup and repair by Mother done; it's just the best...
They had it right back in the day... |
|
| |
|
Joined:
October 2006
Posts: 5575
Location: big island | Originally posted by stephent28:
Randy does that mean you no longer want it? i wuz not the bidder, but i still want it... |
|
| |
|
Joined:
October 2006
Posts: 5575
Location: big island | On Aug-14-09 at 20:07:26 PDT, seller added the following information:
I took the guitar to a local Guitar Center store (a U.S. chain) and had it evaluated by their guitar staff. It was examined carefully and completely under blacklight and the cracks in the finish on the back are just that -- cracks in the finish, not in the body. The guy who inspected it also looked inside with the black light.
He did say there was a hairline crack where the bottom of the neck was possibly starting to come up from where it is attached to the body, but there was no present problem. He also said it needed adjusting, that the strings were a bit too far up (which is why I filed the notches in the bridge just a little bit, long ago, to lower the strings). He said at some point in the future, the neck should be removed and reset. Of course, this guitar's neck does not have a rod up it with a bolt you could adjust. It's solid wood.
I put a new 9 V alkaline battery in it recently and I had the guy inspecting it plug both outputs into an amplifier, one channel at a time, to verify that the pickups and electronics worked and that there was no "scratchiness" in the volume and tone controls. All that was perfect.
The evaluator said it chimed well, had great intonation, the face was in great shape, etc. I had them write up their evaluation, and I will send a photo (JPG file) of that document if anyone sends me their email address (mine: henrystinson@yahoo.com). I am unable to post that photo here, because I'm already up to my maximum limit of 12 pictures.
Disclaimer: I told Guitar Center that they would in no way be held liable for any mistakes or misinformation, but I have confidence in their evaluation. They took their time inspecting it and writing it up.
I apologize to all bidders for my failing to notice the deterioration and small defects, but this guitar looks great (except the back) and plays and sounds great. |
|
| |
|
Joined:
October 2006
Posts: 5575
Location: big island | i'd take it and send it to mama for some good nursing. |
|
| |
|
Joined:
May 2008
Posts: 1556
Location: Indiana | I'm not in the running, but I'd have some serious trust issues with this seller. Claims at least twice to be the original owner yet knows little to nothing about it's features or history...
"Absolute pristine condition Ovation Adamas Adamis I Acoustic-Electric guitar, no scratches I just noticed there is a crack on the back that I don't remember but it's been sealed with superglue. I don't remember doing that. Further Correction: There is no superglue. The crack on the back is in the outer finish."
????
"Of course, this guitar's neck does not have a rod up it with a bolt you could adjust. It's solid wood."
????
"The binding does look a little strange in one place. It's never been repaired, at least not by me. I bought it new. I just looked at that area closely and it does look like the binding might have gotten chipped or something and someone filled it in with some kind of clear plastic.It's a mystery to me."
????
Buyer Beware. |
|
| |
|
Joined:
March 2002
Posts: 15665
Location: SoCal | People, get real here. The guitar may not be perfect but if you can pick it up from under 2 grand, and shoot it back to the factory for another 5 hundred to bring it up to snuff, then for less than 25 hundred you've got a 30 year old Adamas I with all the old mojo that implies.
And it's a wide neck to boot. Pretty damned rare.
If I had the cash, I'd grab it.
You guys are dwelling on all the verbage and missing the big picture..... |
|
| |
|
Joined:
January 2002
Posts: 14127
Location: 6 String Ranch | roger that |
|
| |
|
Joined:
June 2006
Posts: 7307
Location: South of most, North of few | At the risk of being the party pooper here, I'll say this. An Adamas I is a very nice guitar. A wide neck Adamas I is a rare Adamas. That said, unless you are enamored with the looks of the I series, whether it's rare or not, as for resale, it's only worth a certain amount, and only to VERY few people. (read, us nuts here) If you want to buy this as an investment, I'd say you're barking up the wrong tree. If you want it cause you want an Adamas I with a wide neck, and plan to send it back for a refurb, and then keeping it forever, then it might be worth pursuing. I never did really become attached to the looks of the "broccoli head" Adamas. I'd rather have a II. Bottom line, those who want one AND have the cash to outlay are few and far between, so the seller is dealing with a small audience. |
|
| |
|
Joined:
March 2002
Posts: 15665
Location: SoCal | TJ, what you say is true. But I'm not talking about the investment value. I'm talking about an terrific guitar that doesn't come along very often.
One of the great things about Ovations and Adamii is that they are great deals for great guitars. Unlike a Taylor or a Martin, you're not paying a fortune for the name. A wideneck Adamas I is worth $2500 easily for it's sound, playability, and coolness factor. It will slice and dice with guitars costing up to $4k easily.
It's like my rebuilt Legend. On the open market it might be worth $500, but I've played it next to guitars costing 4 times that and it's right there with them.
I'd never look at an Ovation/Adamii as a great investment, just a great guitar..... |
|
| |
|
Joined:
June 2006
Posts: 7307
Location: South of most, North of few | Yeah, but it slips off your lap... :D
scuse me, I've got to go bid on it now... |
|
| |
|
Joined:
March 2005
Posts: 5563
Location: Blue Ridge Mountains | The guitar may not be perfect but if you can pick it up from under 2 grand, and shoot it back to the factory for another 5 hundred to bring it up to snuff, then for less than 25 hundred you've got a 30 year old Adamas I with all the old mojo that implies.
Absolutely! And it doesn't need to be a wideneck either (although for those who prefer the wider neck it is a plus)...my '78 1687-8 #189 was almost identical...it needed the bowl refinished around the heel of the neck, a neck reset and some electrical work: total price guitar and refurb. was less than $2000...and it's as good as new except for the 30+ year old mojo which to me is priceless! try to buy a new Adamas I for that price...and even then it's a new guitar w/o the mojo...or the sound of these original AD I's...I do love the original AD I headstock...it's distinctive and readily identifiable... |
|
| |
|
Joined:
March 2002
Posts: 15665
Location: SoCal | Originally posted by Trader Jim:
Yeah, but it slips off your lap... :D
scuse me, I've got to go bid on it now... Now THAT'S the TJ we know and like (or at least, tolerate)...... |
|
| |
|
Joined:
September 2005
Posts: 3618
Location: GATLINBURG TENNESSEE :) | Taking a look at the close-ups ... It looks like it has the original 1979 strings on it also. If I had the scratch I'd pick it up cheap and send it to the mothership for a makeover also. Somebody here needs to rescue it. |
|
| |
|
Joined:
June 2006
Posts: 7307
Location: South of most, North of few | OK, so what happened? Now it's listed as ended, but with a starting bid of 1200 and a bin of 3k with 0 bids???
This is getting weirder by the minute. |
|
| |
|
Joined:
November 2007
Posts: 1486
Location: Cincinnati | RELISTED
|
|
| |
|
Joined:
June 2006
Posts: 7307
Location: South of most, North of few | Yeah, Blues called me and told me it had a bin of 1200.00 By the time I pulled it up someone had made a bid and made the bin go away. :mad: |
|
| |
|
Joined:
September 2005
Posts: 3618
Location: GATLINBURG TENNESSEE :) | I also noticed that a lot of the "original owner" claims are gone. Looks like a much better description now. (shipping jumped to $95 though) his perrogative.
It will be a lot more interesting to watch now (: |
|
| |
Adamas I on the 'bay
