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Location: SoCal | Originally posted by Gallerinski:
Originally posted by Jewel's Mom a/k/a Joisey Goil #1:
...the sentiments against the Taylors?
Taylor is the Obama of guitars. If you look past the public adoration and slick marketing and hype, you're left with somthing very ordinary and ultimately disappointing which costs you dearly. |
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Location: NJ | . . . after 8 years of Esteban. |
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Location: Upper Left USA | 
Dave,
Meet me in Oregon, I really want to continue this debate. Come unarmed. |
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Location: SoCal | Originally posted by cliff:
. . . after 8 years of Esteban. ...just can't let go.... |
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Location: Phoenix AZ | Originally posted by cliff:
. . . after 8 years of Esteban. I knew I could "smoke Cliff out of his hole" if I used the right bait. |
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Location: Utah | Esteban as President? :D
His VP would have to be Fabio. That would be a sight to see. |
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Location: Upper Left USA | First of all I want to congradulate Loki, uh er Dave, for flushing out Cliff. Not an easy task.
Secondly the finger-poking exercise (marketing tool?) did make me think of the connective reasoning that ties the topics of marketeering and Politics.
Get to know and understand the individual and separate them from the hyperboly (Google it).
Sometimes you get what you pay for and sometimes you pay for what you ask for.
And...you can't always get what you want, but if you try sometimes, you just might find... you get what you need! |
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Location: Tennessee | I need a drink. |
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Location: Keepin' It Weird in Portland, OR | MWoody sez:
Dave,
Meet me in Oregon, I really want to continue this debate. Come unarmed. North Park Blocks, by the Elephant at noon... I'll referee. :p
[Yes, it's a biggun] |
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Location: Hot Springs, S.D. | Anyway, I have mentioned before that I have never found a Taylor that "spoke" to me. I think if they were about one third of the price they might make a nice guitar for someone, but I would never buy one because they sound soul-less to me. I honestly don't bash them for fun. I just think that if I were going to spend that kind of money on a guitar, a Taylor wouldn't even be in the running. |
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Location: Boise, Idaho | I got hooked on Ovations in the 70s because they were different and innovative. There was plenty of marketing hype, but I really wanted to be independent in many ways. The sound and playability were different. Then after coming out of guitar exile for 20 years, I saw all the marketing of Taylors. I couldn't find anything different about them. A friend said he tried a ton of guitars before deciding that a Taylor sounded best. By then I had 5 Ovations that had different qualities and I liked the sound of most of them better than his Taylor. I paid less for all 5 than he did for his Taylor. When I finally decided to spend some big bucks (for me) on my first new guitar in 30 years, there was no way I'd buy something as ordinary as a Taylor. The OFC fit the bill. I play Taylors almost every time I go into a guitar store, but I never feel like I have to have one.
I am also staunchly loyal to anyone or any company that has been good to me. Ovation has, Taylor hasn't. |
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Location: On the Coast - Halfway between SF & OR | I actually have never even seen a Taylor, much less played one, but I was wondering;
Is this rivalry strictly between Ovation owners and Taylor owners or do lovers of other makes join in? |
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Location: Vernon CT | I will ALLWAYS say "To each his own". A Taylor WAS the first guitar that truely spoke to me. Was it because I was new and hadn't developed a musical ear yet? (Not that I have one now) I don't think so. I played that guitar everytime I went into G.C after I played others and it allway spoke to me. My tastes have changed and while I still like a "Bright" tone which I believe most Taylors have, I now enjoy the "Full" tone of my Ovations. BUT, I'll never knock a Taylor just because. |
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Location: Keepin' It Weird in Portland, OR | fletcher asks:
Is this rivalry strictly between Ovation owners and Taylor owners or do lovers of other makes join in? Here?
& here...
And, Of course, Here...
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Location: Utica, NY | Originally posted by MWoody:
Get to know and understand the individual and separate them from the hyperboly (Google it).
I did and this is what I got:
Did you mean: hyperbole ;) |
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Location: GA USA | Nervous, you're my hero.
Dave, have you got a Collings uke yet? |
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| Guitars don't talk to me (as long as I stay on the medication) However, as one who owns both brands, I can say that they both get the job done. What else do you need? |
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Location: 6 String Ranch | I haven't laughed this hard in a long time. |
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| Like Mike said, it comes down to personal preference.
I tried two Taylors before I bought my Collectors. I just didn't like them. I also didn't like the salesman who trashed Ovations and wanted me to buy a Taylor.
Before I bought the guitar, my teacher said to me "For $800 you would get a low end Martin or Taylor. IMHO,Martins and Taylors don't get really good until you spend over $1,000 for them. For $800, Ovation offers a bigger bang for the buck."
For me, the Taylor bashing is less bashing the guitars and more of a snide comment on "wood box only" forums that absolutely adore not only Taylors, but CA and Rainsong guitars, but trash Ovations.
BTW, I don't think that there is anything wrong with the Taylor, CA or Rainsong guitars.
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Location: Phoenix AZ | Originally posted by Capt.Lovehandles, Head Counselor:
Dave, have you got a Collings uke yet? Nope. I'm not a soprano guy. The tenor comes out at year and and I'll give it a listen. But I'm not holding my breath. The soprano is beautiful in a "Collings" sort of way, but sonically you can do better for 1/2 the price. Sorta like Taylor. |
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| A guy I race with has 3 Taylors - I'll have to get him to bring them to the track some day so I can try them out - not the greatest environment for a guitar to be in..lol
I've sorta re-discovered my 1621-4 over the last few years. The only way I can describe it is to say that it has a great voice. |
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Location: South Windsor Connecticut | One of the guys at my jam plays a very nice (high end) Taylor. Others play Ovations, while I play my HD28 Martin. There is also another guy who plays the same Martin and we always will joke about the Taylor. It's all good to me, I just like my Martin, my Ovation, Larivee, Takamine, and maybe someday a Taylor. |
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Could someone please 'splain to me...
