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| Three ways to go here.
1. We could all get a humorectomy and declare you leader of our little gang of neanderthals, but only if you feel willing and able to devote the time necessary to bring us up to your level.
2. You could f@ck off and troll somewhere else.
3. You could use the Planet Waves 3 step cleaning system which I like a lot. Takes more time, costs a little more but works great. Not that popular with the rest of the board but as you will have noticed most of them can't count to 3 without taking their mittens off.
Hope this helps. |
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Location: NJ | Like it or not, droll, banal, flippant remarks is oft-times de rigueur around here . . .
. . . being smarmy just paints a target onto your back . . . |
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Location: Lake Hiawatha, New Jersey | "and then another 100 or so who don't have a life outside of the OFC and simply can't resist posting SOMETHING."
I resemble that remark! |
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Location: closely held secret | Originally posted by schroeder:
Three ways to go here.
1. We could all get a humorectomy and declare you leader of our little gang of neanderthals, but only if you feel willing and able to devote the time necessary to bring us up to your level.
2. You could f@ck off and troll somewhere else.
3. You could use the Planet Waves 3 step cleaning system which I like a lot. Takes more time, costs a little more but works great. Not that popular with the rest of the board but as you will have noticed most of them can't count to 3 without taking their mittens off.
Hope this helps. Now, see? One post that embodies everything I was talking about!
1 - Cutting humor. A bit sarcastic in nature, but so is Schroeder. Not very helpful, yet entertaining.
2 - Brutally straightforward suggestion to solve the problem.
3 - Solid advice born from experience using a certain product for a certain purpose. Tempered with a humorous afterthought, slightly tinged with a little bitterness, probably stemming from his failure to get permission from his wife to be part of the Incident in Fernandina.
All followed up with a hearty wish for success!
Excellent! |
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Location: Brighty in Blighty | The Elite Special natural (at least mine) has a very 'matt' finish (it's not raw wood but almost)and I wonder whether a product like the Dunlop 65 cleaner and polish will do just that, clean and polish.
Polish to me sounds like it's going to produce a non matt finish, of course I might be wrong. Anyhow I've ordered some and I'll try a little section.
Now all this has been fun and diverting but I really have to get back to the wood shed. |
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Location: Cincinnati | I have a "matt" finish Martin and the Dunlop 65 does not produce a non-matt finish on it. |
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Location: Brighty in Blighty | Excellent, thanks |
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Location: closely held secret | "I saw something nasty in the woodshed".
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Location: Huntington Beach, CA | I once waxed a satin finish Ovation. It looked ridiculous! Found a good wax remover (non-abrasive and not too acidic) and brought it back to what it was. I've used Dunlop 65 ever since.
If you have spots that have penetrated the top finish, you may be looking at a lot of work and I haven't the experience to advise you.
I know that wax is recommended for oil finished wood like necks and headstocks but, it isn't easy to work with in tight areas, tends to darken the wood and I'm not sure how much protection it provides for all the effort.
Some here evidently wax their legs (women I hope), others wax poetic, still others are just whack. You will get good advice... just need to enjoy the various personalities you meet along the way.
Hope you like your new guitar. I have the S778 and REALLY like it. Very woodsy/folksy. Good luck.
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Location: Brighty in Blighty | @ Eman
Thanks for the info - just what I needed. I don't think anything has penetrated the top it just could do with a light clean. There is a small section that looks like it's been polished -- it's just where previous owner has been resting on the body whilst playing - perhaps it has worn through - hard to tell.
I have also just ordered a 6778 LX :-) |
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Location: Jet City | I used to use a touch of beeswax in mineral oil for fretboards. I use dunlop 65 too, but I'm glad this post happened cuz I wasn't sure if it could be used on the satin finish on my 6774's neck and headstock.
Now I know.
And Dweezil, a wide sense of humor (and sometimes just as much patience) is required here. I think your papa would have appreciated the humor and sarcasm. Those were some of the main building blocks of his music! |
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Location: Vermont USA | Dunlop 65 on top of guitar
Butchers wax on neck
Mineral oil on fret board
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Location: Warren,Pa. | One thing you will notice over time (as did Pauly) is that, where your arm rests on the guitar, top the matt finish becomes shiny after a while. I never did hear an answer as to what to do about that. Pauly saw that creeping up on his Elite Special and wrestled with what to do. What DID you do, Pauly?
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Location: Warren,Pa. | Seagull recommends WINDEX on their guitars with matt finishes.
BTW...what's "smarmy"? |
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Location: NJ | It's a term used by those in Jersey who are purpoted t'have "no life" . . . . you wouldn't understand. |
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Location: Vermont USA | I like shiny things :D |
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Location: Michigan | Polishes clean and shine and allow whatever is under them to breathe but offer no long term protection.
Waxes seal and protect.GWB |
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Location: Brighty in Blighty | Cleaned and polished with Dunlop 65 - awesome stuff - thanks O people... |
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Location: Tennessee | Ah good ... another convert. Glad you stuck it out through the hazing initiation Dweezil. It seems to me that you have acclimated quite well. ;)
BTW, matte finishes can be polished up to shiny. BHB talked about that earlier, and essentially repeated rubbing of the matte finish turns it shiny. I know people who have changed matte finish to gloss by using some form of polishing compound (i.e Maguiar's car polish -- not the wax tho!) and working it until they brought the finish to where they wanted it. Basically the same thing happens with your arm on the top ... it just takes a lot longer. So do not be surprised if you start seeing glossy spots on your soundboard where you have contacgt with it. And if you wanted to change the entire cedar top to gloss, you can do that. But the process is not reversible. |
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Location: Brighty in Blighty | Thanks stonebobbo,
I don't really mind the worn in shiny parts as it looks lived in so to speak just didn't want to glossify it unnaturally.
I used in on the neck too to clean the crap off and it worked well but perhaps some Dunlop oil would be good after a clean eh? |
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Location: Vermont USA | Butchers wax on the neck.
Oil Dunlop or mineral on the fret board.
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Location: Keepin' It Weird in Portland, OR | O'Kay! I will finally ask...
Which Butcher's Wax.
"Bowling Alley Wax", "Boston Polish", "Black Bison"?
[When I first read y'all talking about "Butcher's Wax", I thought you meant Animal Fat :confused: ] |
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Location: Vermont USA | "Bowling Alley Wax"
It would be a cold day in West Bolivia when I would rub animal fat on one of my guitars, although my dog would probably love it.
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Location: Huntington Beach, CA | The best stuff I've found (and recommended by Ovation/Kaman) is Trewax Clear Paste Wax with Carnuba. I bought a 454g tin that will easily last my lifetime. In fact, I think it takes about a half gram worth to do the neck so I have enough for close to 1,000 applications!
If you're going to use animal fat, I recommend Possum. I'd like to think those things are good for something!
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Cleaning Elite Special S868 natural finish?
