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The one thing I wonder is if Ovations and Hamers will increase in value in time since they have almost been discontinued. So far it hasn't happened a year later, but maybe in time. While I don't know if it has to do with production or anything else, but I can attest that Ovations have been going up in price pretty consistently.
When you are scouring prices, don't look at the $300 viper that someone hooked. It's more important to look at the $750 one. Ten years ago, I would never have thought of paying more than $500 for a Viper and it better be in dead mint condition at that. The going price of a UKII was $600 at that time. Granted you can still get them for that price, but some are creeping up and supply and demand will kick in a little more.
What I'd like to point out is that the prices are creeping, even in a poor economy. As things get better, I think the prices will start to jump up a little more. Than we'll all be complaining we can't afford them at all. :) |
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Location: sitting at my computer | Originally posted by Mr. Ovation:
...Than we'll all be complaining we can't afford them at all. :) Now there's a good excuse er... I mean reason to invest in a couple more!!! :D If only I had some extra cash. :( |
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Location: Flahdaw | Originally posted by Weaser P:
Not sure about BIG names but here's one that's been in the news lately - Jack Wagner |
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Location: Marlton, NJ | I wish I could afford an Adamas. I've always wanted to try one. |
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Location: sitting at my computer | Wow, THE MAURICE SCHNERDINSKI plays an Ovation!? Prices outta sky rocket now! :D |
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Location: Orlando, FL | Yeah, those guys from Wagner Schnerdinski Overdrive are big Ovation users. |
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Location: Orlando, FL | And let's not forget the incredible Jordan Rivers. I'm guessing he was the reason Fender took notice of Ovation in the first place.
If he can't bring Ovation back into the spotlight, no one can. |
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Location: Flahdaw | He can't even bring HIMSELF into the spotlight. |
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Location: closely held secret | And heaven knows he's tried. Maybe GW Williams can help him.
...no, wait... |
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Location: Orlando, FL | Originally posted by Waskel:
And heaven knows he's tried. Maybe GW Williams can help him.
...no, wait... Or may be HeatherDD...
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| They and other guitars made from composites may be getting more respect in the future.
I'm starting to see horror stories reposted on various forums about people running into difficulties at national borders because their guitars are made of some exotic hardwoods the importation of which is restricted in some way.
I don't know the full specifics of these stories, and I frankly don't want to find out. When I go out of the country, I'm taking my Ovies. |
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Location: NOR*CAL | I think the parallel is the Chevy(wood) vs Ford(composite) mentality, Ford lovers hate Chevy vice versa, to the point where they'd never touch the other.
And i've also been in a couple 'guitar shops' where the salesmen gave me the look of Ovation is crap, of course after asking these sales people if they've ever tried any, they (not surprisingly) said no.
I also agree with person per the super shallow bodies, while they sound good, and have their place, if most people have only heard the SS bowls then it's understandable per their negative first impressions.
I have yet to own a high end Ovation, while i think my D-Scale sounds perhaps as good as any high end Ovation. And the 2078TX is about as deep as any jumbo i've tried...so far, even to the point where it's so deep, i start crying(lol). |
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Location: Kemptville, Ontario, Canada | I have a Standard Elite 6868AX. I love the sound of my super shallow bowl. Sure it doesn't sound like the all-wood bodies but why do I have to like that boomy, woody sound??? My Ovation is really balanced across the strings.
I bought the Ovation more for the action. I can play all the way up the neck the same. Very few acoustics that I have ever played offer the playing experience of an Ovation. Well none that I can think of.
And the other "acoustic" guitars I owned, trying to get what I thought I wanted, didn't measure up. A Fender Stratacoustic Deluxe, Godin A6 and Kramer Ferrington. Sure they have action similar to an electric but they don't even come close to the sound and pure pleasure of playing an Ovation.
I played my brother's Big Baby Taylor and I don't like it at all. I don't like the action or the sound and I really dislike the ebony fingerboard. Why did they do that? Answer...who cares...lol.
There's a guy at the local music store that hates Ovation. Shows how much he knows.
Anyways, I am glad I found this site! Long live Ovation!
Steve |
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Location: Campbell River, British Columbia | Originally posted by Mr. Ovation:
As things get better, I think the prices will start to jump up a little more. Than we'll all be complaining we can't afford them at all. The only thing worse than change
is no change.
Spunkwater Willie
...down on the corner, front of the likker store. |
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Location: Northwest Arkansas | I'm keeping my Adamas. Plugged in my Celebrities sound better than ANY other electric acoustic I've owned. In 34 years you can buy a lot of guitars. Right now it's O's and A's all the way. |
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Location: Minneapolis | I bought my first guitar - a Pacemaker 12 string because I was knocked out by the sound of them on stage with Paul McCartney and Wings and then later on his "Wings Over America" album.
If you like that crisp sound with tight clarity, then you do. If you have to have all the overtones, maybe an old Guild or Martin is the ticket. I'm glad a lot of name brand artists over the years have played Os, but for me it still comes down to the sound.
That LAV Koa I bought last year has all the tightness I crave, but monster bottom end warmth too. That and every time I pick it up I marvel at how solidly built it feels. A guitar that feels that strong should sound dead - but it doesn't. It inspires me to play. What more can you ask for? |
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Location: Minneapolis | Oh, and on the subject of value? I think they own and keep it well. This from a guy who wishes he could afford to add to his collection - a John Lennon reissue 1651 and a Melissa Etheridge 1598-MEII... |
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Location: Boise, Idaho | I just bought number 16. That's 16 Ovations that I currently have. There have been a few more that I've sold. I agree that I am brand loyal to an extreme.
I do not agree with a recent comment that I have 16 "of the same guitars". That only shows that the person making the comment doesn't know anything about guitars. The variety runs from the reissue Adamas to an electric "fat Strat" knockoff. Traditional guitars come in a variety of sizes, too. I have been able to afford my obsession so far, but I don't think I could justify buying, for example, two Martins where the only difference was the type of wood on the back. |
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Location: Colorado Rocky Mountains | Originally posted by Mark in Boise:
I don't think I could justify buying, for example, two Martins where the only difference was the type of wood on the back. How about two identical models but for color and 40 years difference in date of manufacture? |
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Location: Jet City | What's wrong with havin' more than 1 of something? I have a couple UKIIs with different finises plus I have I have 2 guitars, identical in all ways, color too. Only one has a trem...
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Location: Boise, Idaho | I said I couldn't justify it. That doesn't mean I think there's anything wrong with it. If I was independently wealthy, or even if I had a gig once in awhile, I might be able to justify having the same guitar in different colors. This is purely personal. SWMBO couldn't tell the difference between two guitars, unless they're a different color. |
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Location: Phoenix, AZ | Originally posted by MarkF786:
[/qb] Sadly, I don't think this will ever happens since Fender moved most of the operation overseas. Being also a Hamer owner & fan, a brand which Fender now eliminated except for custom shop orders, I'm sorely aware of the reality of the situation.
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Please help me out here. Fender buys Guild and trys to build them in Corona CA. But, with the weather and the electric building people, it doesn't work out. Fender buys Tacoma, claiming it wants to save the factory and the jobs of the workers. Fender moves Guild production to the Tacoma factory and kills Tacoma. The Tacoma workers aren't happy, and Fender needs to close the Tacoma factory. Fender buys KMC. Fender wants the production facility for Guilds. Fender moves all O production offshore. Fender kills Hamer. Fender gets the production facility it needs for Guild (at the collective expense of Tacoma, Ovation and Hamer). Really good O's and A's are by order now, and quite expensive.
So, who's the guy at Fender who loves Guilds? Any way to brainwash him into loving O's?
PS. Is it safe to call Ovation the Saab of the guitar world? |
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Location: Texas | PS. Is it safe to call Ovation the Saab of the guitar world? Well, they haven't gone BK. But, they have been re-structured, so to speak.
Maybe O will end up like Harley. A guy by the name of Beal and a direct descendant of the Davidison family...along with a dozen other Harley loving joes that wanted to see Harley restored to a profitable American icon, bought the company from AMF (hmmmm AMF...FMC).
Of course, they had a little help from RR applying a 50% tariff on rice burners soon afterwards.
Oh well. |
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Location: Northwest Arkansas | Excuse me, but every deep bowl Ovation I have ever played sounds better than any Guild I have ever played. I've said it once on here, I'll say it again, Fender doesn't know squat about acoustic guitars. I have a little message to Fender. Take good care of Ovation. Adamas, Ovation, Celebrity, and Applause owners are the most loyal owners I have EVER seen. Don't screw with something that works. |
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Ovation "don't get no respect"...
