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Location: NJ | Hey, Colin!
When you have some time, could you do me a favor??
On the backside of the headstock is a little brass screw. Take a small screwdriver and unscrew it. This will release the carved walnut truss rod cover on the front. Remove the cover, and let me know if there is a number scratched on the backside of the cover and/or inside the the truss rod cavity in the peghead. Mine has a number "20" carved in both. Up until I'd found this place, I was under the impression that mine was #20 (my guitar doesn't have the lable in it anymore). Trying to figure out if the number had something to do with numbering the necks during production, or something.
Just curious if yours says anything.
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Location: 6 String Ranch | These fingerboards were not impregnated, just plain walnut. The neck is one piece but the heel is added on so it's not a "one piece" neck. There is a strip of grafite down the back and two more under the fingerboard making the neck like an I beam, when one stretches the other compresses and hopefully keeps it straight.
All the bowls were speckled as were the cases. I don't remember seeing any comments about the case or case cover, Cholloway, can you help us here? You got the original case and cover?
The binding was a tanish/brown epoxy resign with glass cloth under it. The pickguard is just clear polyester. This one has yellowed a bit. (so what, it just proves this is an old guitar)
The neck and bridge were finished wiht a clear coat, can't remember the name of it now. |
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Location: NJ | how many times have they reissued the 59 les paul???? answer a bunch
has it effected the price of real 59's? yes they are more popular and worth more money now
think about it |
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Location: Atlanta,Ga. | I have to disagree with you guys about the reissue hurting the value of the original slotheads.Did the D-45 being reissued ever hurt the value of an original pre war D-45? No! in fact they have been climbing in price thru the years.Also we are assuming that the reissue will be a "dead on" accurate example of the preproduction model.Also we are assuming that it will sound the same as #47 or other early slotheads.So,i dont believe the slothead price will be effected at all by the reissue.Collectors who want them will buy them over the reissue and i see the preproduction adamas' climbing in value thru the years.I would still want to buy more of the early slotheads if i can but have no interest in the reissue at $5000.... |
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Location: Atlanta,Ga. | Bill, i can answer you about the case as i saw it here at my home.It does not have the spekled case or the case cover.He does have the original sales slip from where he bought the guitar at a msic store and also the repair slip from kaman from when he sent it back to have it refretted.. |
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Location: NJ | Sam;
I've seen the sales slip as well . . .
(pretty f&^%#g AMAZING, isn't it? :-)
Lemme reiterate that my INITIAL thoughts were that it would affect the "value" of the guitar.
I don't think that'll be the case.
If anything, it'll just lessen the "audience" a bit to the more discerning, intrinsic collector(s).
Sam;
While I've got you "on the line" as it were:
Do any of yours have a number under the trc's?
Don't remember if I'd asked you . . . |
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Location: Atlanta, GA. | Sam is correct... I only have the hard case that the salesman brought out of the storeroom at the
time of purchase. No doubt he didn't know any better than I did!!!
Cliff, will do on the truss rod nut cover thingy. |
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Location: NJ | I think Ovation "stiffed" Ackerman's on the glittered cases and covers . . . . mine didn't come with one either . . . :D |
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Location: Latitude 39.56819, Longitude -105.080066 | Hey Al,
This thread is finally catching up to the pretzel! |
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Location: Atlanta, GA. | Cliff,
#12 looks to be scratched on the back of the cover only. No where else. |
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Location: NJ | Thanks, Colin.
The mystery continues . . . . |
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Location: The Great Pacific Northwest | On Value, I am going to have to agree. In fact, I think the re-issue may even boost the value in the collectors market. The reason I believe this is that very few people even know anything about this guitar. Hopefully these new guitars Ovation is making and re-issuing will get the conversation going. Then the challenge would be out. Instead of a few people in the know attempting to find a rare guitar, there will be many people looking to find "the orginal" version.
Like Al said, you can buy Gibson reissues all day long for a couple grand, or you can buy an original for over a 100 grand, and they all sell. |
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Location: 6 String Ranch | I would agree that the reissue will have no effect on the price of these originals other than to create more awareness. That could play out as Miles has said here, to increase the value. Keep in mind that we are on the front end of this bubble. Who knows where it will go in 10-20-30 years. |
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Location: boulder | Well on one hand,
Did anyone in 1905 think about Martins or gibsons as investments, maybe a select few. In 2005 is anyone thinking about Ovations as an investment, maybe a select few. I always figure, if I really like something, I am not the only one.
On the other hand,
investment and collecting for investment is all about perceived values. Reality is, some of us would give $10K in a heartbeat to own cholloways guitar. Others wouldn't give $100 because they 'perceive' it as plastic and inferior.
Wasn't there a guy who swayed public opinion about Ovations by putting them in the right spot at the right time for the masses to see and become aware of?
(ZZtop at sturgis playing racing stripe elites comes to mind, or just give some new good ones to string cheese incident,)
I mean I just watched a 20 year old guy the other day buy a pretty looking Ibanez hollow body over a much better sounding celebrity model. Those were his choices, because the store mostly carries celebrity's and ultras and maybe a balladeer. They stock those because they sell those the most (I know what comes first chicken or the egg). It seems like most people perceive Ovations has being celebrity's, when that changes, the demand for O's will increase and then the price.
Hopefully the catalyst to change will be all the new models, both a and o, and the surrounding publicity. I still love playing them regardless.
just my opinion of the moment, peace mike |
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Location: NJ | ". . Did anyone in 1905 think about Martins or gibsons as investments . ."
Ask Moody - he was around then . . . |
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Location: NJ | The Adamas is the flagship of the line. The slothead the holy grail.
IMHO what has happened to the Adamas in the past 10 years was a disgrace. Now with the anniv models they have a chance of gaining back some of their former glory and when that new one gets released I am confident you will see a whole new group of Adamas and Ovation users out there.
What is the best way to drive up the price? create a shortage, or a mystique.
How many of us have actually played an original slothead adamas? Maybe 50? But how many of us want one maybe all 50?
but what the hell do I know I am just an idiot that sells gear for a living and I never took any business classes, plus Michael Wong says I am the worst business man on earth. |
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Location: SoCal | ". . Did anyone in 1905 think about Martins or gibsons as investments . ."
Ask Moody - he was around then . . .
Well, yeah. That's why I have a 1914 0018 Martin. |
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Location: NJ | Speaking of which . . .
Master Wong has been noticeably absent from this thread.
Michael . . . . . here's your chance. |
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Location: NJ | cliff
I have had enough abuse without michael yelling at me again. |
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Location: NJ | I was referring to the SlotHead opportunity. |
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Location: Midland, MI | Fugot said 'String Cheese Incident!' Haw, haw, haw!
Actually, I love their cover of 'Gin and Juice.' Nothing beats bluegrass rap. :D |
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Location: SoCal | To bring this thread back around, what's the lastest on the sale of this slot? |
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Location: 6 String Ranch | still perc-o-late-in |
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Location: NJ | mar-in-ate-in.
btw:
I'm outta here for a week.
Bill: Sunday/Noon. |
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Location: SoCal | Anything new going on with this? |
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ADAMAS "Slothead" #0045-92
