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Location: SoCal | Three more available?
If Al puts them on eBay, his minimum price should be above what he is offering these for.
This isn't a Legend, it is a Legend Limited.
Only way to get a NEW deep bowl, non cutaway, AAA spruce, ebony fretboard, A brace without buying a 1769-ADII (DiMeola) or the 1719-30CM (2004 30th Anniv CL) - if you can find one and for a lot more $'s.
From what I understand, these were never offered to the U.S. market. Pretty rare, only 100 made.
Issued to commemorate the 25th anniversary of Lennon's death (12/08/80), these were selling for about $2,300 USD or more in Japan. |
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Location: Bluffton, SC | Al and Tony - have you (or anyone else onboard here for that matter) played one? What can you say about the voice of this particular model? Is there another model that has a similar build and voice to compare it to or is it unique to the family? That is, is this guitar special more so as a collector's item or a player? |
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Location: Phoenix AZ | I played a used Legend Limited a few years ago at Milano's. To me it sounded pretty much like a standard A braced Legend. As I recall it was pretty cheap ($350?) but I thought the nutmeg finish was ugly. That was before I had seen photos of John Lennon playing one. My how opinions can be changed.
Collector or player? I think both. For the price of a new Legend LX you get a bullet proof 1651-7 with a little bit of history to it. And maybe due the rarity could escalate in value. It would be interesting to know of the 100 made, how many didn't go to Asia (at least 6).
This was a guitar I absolutely did not need. But something about the opportunity to own one just felt "right".
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Location: NJ | yup I have played one.
It sounds really good. The added kick is the collector's aspect. |
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| Al, how many salesmen do you have? Are you on their list for any O' that comes their way, or are you selective? Let me know..
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Location: SoCal | As to how it sounds...should get mine Tuesday. Do not believe that I will be disappointed.
We know the basics...type of pre-amp, deep bowl, non-cutaway, ebony fretboard, neck, AAA spruce, A bracing, etc.
It is a Custom Legend without the abalone which looks good but doubt if it makes it sound different.
Other than anything they may have done (?scallop bracing), finish should look close to the '76 Patriot (beautiful) and it should sound like a Custom Legend (beautiful).
In line with some of my other posts about wanting to try before buy...this is different. We are talking about known factors...I have deep bowl, non-cutaway CL's and two Patriots.
Great guitar..."not cheap but reasonable" |
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Location: NJ | like all dealers I have an inside sales rep and an outside sales rep.
I am VERY selective with what I want. I lean heavily towards Adamas guitars and custom orders, one offs, limited editions etc. |
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Location: Tennessee | I mentioned earlier that I spied these when on the factory tour. I told somebody that day (might have been Moody?) that of all the guitars we saw that day, if I could take one home that would be it. What surprised me was how light it was when I picked it up. Which leads to the question of whether this has the LX technology ... it does have a truss rod. Does the CM-30 have the LX neck ... if not, maybe that's what they used. And yeah, it definitely looks a LOT better in person than the pictures. |
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Location: SoCal | 1719-30CM does have the dual truss rod. |
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Location: Tennessee | Does it have the Lyrachord GS bowl? |
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Location: SoCal | nope, beautiful brown bowl; came out in 2004
2005 Collectors' was the first with the GS bowl |
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Location: Tennessee | Maybe I asked the wrong question ... I know the 1651-7 has a "normal" deep bowl, not the contour. But I was wondering if it has the new "micro-bubble" bowl material, and if the CM-30 had it then the likelihood is higher. Especially if they use the LX neck system. |
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Location: SoCal | I could be wrong, but my impression has always been that Ovation hasn't made a deep bowl with either the micro bubbles or with the LX neck system. They started with the mid depth bowl and then went to the supershallow bowl and the contour bowl, both of which, use the new bowl material. |
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Location: Phoenix AZ | I do believe Mr. PI is right. Never seen a deep LX. Dave |
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Location: SoCal | sounds like an X rated movie title |
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Location: SoCal | I wanted to have a Legend LX built using a deep bowl and the older Legend (read that as larger) inlays built. Was told for almost a year that it would have required a new mold to be built and it wasn't going to happen. Turns out that Ovation was preparing the contour bowl instead. |
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Location: closely held secret | Paul, why are you always wishing for what they tell you you can't have? |
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Location: Bluffton, SC | No sense in wishing for what you already have. |
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Location: Le Havre (France) | Originally posted by Standingovation:
I do believe Mr. PI is right. Never seen a deep LX. Dave The 2005 Collector has a LX and a contour bowl, isn't the contour bowl a deep one ? |
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Location: Phoenix AZ | Contour and Deep are different. I think I was told that the cavity volume of a contour is between a mid and a deep. In total the bowls from smallest to deepest are Supershallow, Adamas upershallow, Artist, Mid, Contour, Deep, Adamas Deep.
A side effect of the Ovation process (as Moody states) is that tooling up for a new bowl is a BIG deal ($$$). That's why you can't just pick up the phone and order a Lefty Deepbowl LX, for example.
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Location: Tennessee | Confusion breeds confusion. Did Ovation just put the dual-action truss rod in an old neck design? Or if it is the LX neck, how can they fit that to an old style bowl since all other LXs require the new bowl design? I'd just wait for the guitar to show up, but the deal I made with lady stonebobbo was that she could confiscate the box upon arrival and hold it for under the tree. Al, did she make a deal with you to mark the box "Do Not Open Until Christmas"? ;) |
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Location: Phoenix AZ | I "think" the CL30 is a dual action truss rod in an original (pre k-bar) neck. I don't think it has the AEN LX-type neck attachment. But I could be wrong. Dave |
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Location: Le Havre (France) | Thank's Dave !
Silly question : have you ever heard about an Elite or Legend with and Adamas deep bowl ? |
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Location: SoCal | The Adamas "deep" bowl is the the result of the Adamas top mounting ring. It gives the bowl an extra 1/4" of depth. |
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1651-7 john lennon model
