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Location: Chehalis, Washington | The other thing I noticed is that it has the headstock overlay that extends down under the nut and the first 1/4" of fretboard. I don't know if that can affect the tone, but it's different than just about every other Ovation I've seen.
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Location: South of most, North of few | Thanks Andrew. Very nice picture. BTW, did you have to rent an old Wal-mart to store all of your guitars?? It seems like one house just wouldn't be enough space! :D :D |
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Location: Nova Scotia, Canada | Don't forget the floating fretboard extension. This would have a significant effect on tone...in a good way, except when you were fretting up there,
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Location: Chehalis, Washington | Yeah, except in a previous life some nitwit glued mine down. Still sounds beautiful, and they did at least a passable enough job to not get glue on the guitar top and make a mess.
Jim, no Walmart needed - I've currently got 10 guitars (6 O's, 2 A's), a mandolin, and a violin all strategically placed within a 3-bedroom apartment.
The 1869 is on its way to England, I'm sending the 1881 to my dad next week, and the 1624 is spoken for and the 1718 is going up for sale next. In the end, I'll end up with only 7 guitars total, one of which is my old Mexican-made nylon. All that, my wife, two kids (and one on the way), and enough furniture and stuff to fill a 2000 square foot house.
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Location: SoCal | Kim introduced me to Sears' Green Goblin Latex...would be a great St. Patrick's Day guitar.
Andrew, there is a good chance that CyA remover would remove (at least soften) the underlying glue. I have used it a lot on the catalyzed polyester that is used and it doesn't even dull the finish. |
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Location: Orlando, FL | Okay, gentles, fill me in. I've never ever let any factory put a new top on an old guitar. Aside from that no god/God-fearing person would commit such an attrocity, the sound just isn't right when all that seasoning is lost. Then again, I've never considered it with an Ovation before either. But if we're gonna go there, why not just ask 'em to toss a sheet of graphite on the top and turn it into a pseudo-Adamas while they're at it? (Don't kick at me, I'm just thinking aloud.) Add an OP-24, and it'd be about right, no?
Seriously, if they're going to replace the top, it's going to be a different guitar. Heck, the luthiers I've spoken with say that the quality of the wood itself isn't even remotely the same these days. So.. edujamicate me? Thanks! |
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Location: SoCal | Welcome John,
You've got it... it's going to be a different guitar. But you will have the same neck :)
If a top is damaged and can't be salvaged, why not retop the guitar. You might even end up with your neck on a new guitar. Sure all that seasoning is lost, but otherwise you have a guitar that can't be played. I would not want to be in either situation.
As far as a graphite top, if you wanted it and the Factory could do it, why not. The graphite top is going to yield a different voicing then a wood top. I guess you'd have your neck on a new Adamas. |
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Location: Upper Left USA | As far as this 1537 goes, the top will not be removed. My understanding is the neck is removed and the top finish and bridge is sanded away with the 14' by 1' sanding belt.
Then the repair and finish process starts over with a top that is minutely thinner. the newer finish will need to cure and the top may need to break in again but it is still a 25 year old top.
When the top is unrepairable you end up recycling the neck, for this I'd just retire and hang the instrument. |
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Location: SoCal | Sometimes it's worth it to replace the top. I've got an old GC 12 string at the factory getting a whole new body. I could have had the factory just re-do the top, but I wanted it to have A bracing for a much much better sound. |
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Location: Earth·SolarSystem·LocalInterstellarCloud·Local Bub | When's it due back Paul?? |
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Location: SoCal | I'm hoping before Christmas.... |
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Location: Upper Left USA | Phase 1 is complete!
The 1537 is on it's way to Mother via UPS.
Phase 2 will be the estimate for repair in which the prospective new Owner can back out or lay claim to a brand new 1537.
I hope they haven't run out of brown paint... |
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Location: Pacific Northwest Inland Empire | I might have to "rise off the bottom" on this one....... |
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Location: Upper Left USA | Phase two begins as the project is now...
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PS - Check the post count. If we were Bowling it would mean two rounds! |
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Location: PDX | Originally posted by MWoody:
PS - Check the post count. If we were Bowling it would mean two rounds! Actually, it would indicate that you didn't know how to keep score ;)
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Location: Back in the Valley of the Sun Mesa Az. | Question,
I know Blueridge guitars use an aging agent on their soundboards during the finishing stages to give their guitars the look of a vintage Martin (to some degree of success).
I wonder if the same could be done to help give this restored 1537 a more "vintage" or aged look as it surely had before restoration?
Just a thought. |
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Location: Latitude 39.56819, Longitude -105.080066 | Originally posted by gh1:
Originally posted by MWoody:
PS - Check the post count. If we were Bowling it would mean two rounds! Actually, it would indicate that you didn't know how to keep score ;)
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Location: Upper Left USA | A couple of years ago I noticed that my IQ, Golf score, Bowling average and Blood pressure were all the same number so I quit sports...
Norse, I would be agianst the artificial toning. It would look better now but later it wouldn't be appreciated |
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Location: Rego Park, NY, | Mothership received:
http://wwwapps.ups.com/WebTracking/processInputRequest?HTMLVersion=5.0&loc=en_US&Requester=UPSHome&tracknum=1za99f690320898994&AgreeToTermsAndConditions=yes&ignore=&track.x=15&trac k.y=8 |
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Location: Tennessee | The other W2 must've been at the factory today. |
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Location: Alberta, Canada | About the toner...my 1112-4 is at the factory right now and I spec'd the vintage toner for the top. I should have it back in a few weeks and can give impressions at that time. It's the finish that was put on the 30th Ann. CL. Perhaps Tony could comment on this, he being the resident expert on this model. |
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Location: Upper Left USA | The 2003 Collector is "vintage tinted" and I like that one. |
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Location: SoCal | The 87 Collectors has a "vintage toned" top. Looks good. But my 1537 as aged to a slightly different tone.
I thought about having my GC 12 string's new top stained with vintage toner, but to be honest, I'm looking forward to watching the top yellow over the years...
A lot of the yellowing in guitar tops is in the finish. Several years ago I had a '68 Deluxe Balladeer top refinished at the factory. When the top was stripped and sanded and refinished, it was not as dark as it had been. To be honest, it was a beautiful honey toned shade. |
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Location: Upper Left USA | Phase III begins:
Repairs at Mother's and the anticipation of great things! |
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Location: South of most, North of few | Woodrow, did they give you an estimate yet? Would you be willing to share what it was? I am thinking of sending my 1718 in, but it's not near in as bad of shape as that one was. |
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1537: Here's the Deal
