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"In spite of the fact I have minimal talent, look like a mass-murderer, smell like I just crawled out of a grave and glorify death, violence and generally all things ugly, I seem to have plenty of money for all the disgusting urges I could ever hope to fulfill." |
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Location: South of most, North of few | Originally posted by muzza:
Sorry, I'm still missing something. It just looks like a regular elite T with white purfling and an enormous serial number. another keyboard ruined... :D |
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Location: Upper Left USA | Look at me!
I'm an Endorsee!!
At least I spell checked mine...
What a bunch of totally unimaginative Horseshit to sell instruments with. |
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Location: Jet City | It used to be the "in thing" to do...
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Location: south east Michigan | Face it gents.. there is a whole "different" demographic out there besides us FOGPOGs.
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Location: Jet City | Originally posted by Trader Jim:
Originally posted by muzza:
Sorry, I'm still missing something. It just looks like a regular elite T with white purfling and an enormous serial number. another keyboard ruined... :D |
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Location: enid, ok | Good show, Miles! Not a fan of Slipknot or most other artists of that ilk, but I do tend toward heavier and more involved music. I don't care for James Taylor's or Jim Croce's music, but I don't go around griping about it. |
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| Originally posted by MWoody:
[QB] Look at me!
I'm an Endorsee!!
At least I spell checked mine...
Whew.... thought you had finally decided to use some of the Abalone... and fell overboard :D
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Location: Upper Left USA | Saving that fer tha Longneck! |
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Location: 6 String Ranch | They are doing something.
We love to bitch cause they never do anything, but they have someone the kids seem to like.
Yes, I think it is a pile of toultol fookin rooubish but I guess that just means I'm too old to get it.
Of course in Asheville yesterday we saw a bumpersticker that said "I'm not too old, the music just SUCKS!" I suspect that's in responce to the "If it's too loud, you're too old" sticker that was right next to it. I like the first sticker. |
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Location: Campbell River, British Columbia | Didn't (y)our folks say the same thing about Alice Cooper? Johnie Carson thought he was okay, and now he's just another old rock dude who made his pile.
Yes, we are just old and in the way..... |
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Location: Sydney, Australia | I wish my kids would listen to heavy metal instead of the boy band type of stuff they listen to - drives me crazy. Thankfully ipods mean that I don't usually have to listen to it, only in the car together. |
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Location: Sunshine State, Australia | I'm sorry, those guys just don't fit the Ovation demographic. None of them are bearded, bald or named Karen or Andrea. :rolleyes: |
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Location: Warren,Pa. | I don't think there's any virtue in supporting your family by whatever means possible. That would make robbery, drug-dealing, the porn business, mafia, etc. perfectly acceptable.
Hendrix wasn't cultivating an interest in death and murder in a generation of kids. There's a lot of music that I don't care for but I realize it's just my opinion. This shit is simply destructive to a generation. An older generation should always be looking to help the next group to be leaders and good citizens of the world. Show me anything redeemable in this group's material.
The making of money or selling guitars for a company just doesn't make up for the damage done to young minds.
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Location: Scotland | Originally posted by bauerhillboy:
I This shit is simply destructive to a generation. And they said they same about Elvis, the Beatles, the Stones, Punk, Rap and the rest. You are underestimating the intelligence of the kids who listen to this stuff, and their abilty to filter out what is right and wrong. If a survey was conducted among Slipknots fans as to who feels like commiting murder after listening to their music, I think you'd find it would be none.
There are bad human beings and good human beings, and it takes more than listening to a third-rate band to turn a good one into a bad one. |
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Location: Upper Left USA | Didn't they say that about Dimebag Darryl's group? |
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Location: Campbell River, British Columbia | I think a study of concerts deaths might find The Stones and The Who to be more of a threat to personal health..... |
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Location: Las Vegas, NV | "You are underestimating the intelligence of the kids who listen to this stuff"
And you are underestimating their impressionability (is that a word?).
It's all part of the same slippery slope. It starts with what we consider today as fairly benign (Elvis, Beatles, etc.), but shocking back then. It moves on to Punk, Gangsta Rap, etc., which were a little shocking when they were new, but not so much now, as our tolerance for this kind of stuff (and morality) shifts. Now, groups that glorify death are only a little shocking, as our morality shifts even more. So, what's next? Ah, the decline of moral civilization... It usually happens so subtly that no one even notices... |
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Location: Budd Lake, NJ | And...to think...thanks to Muzza...I've become a demographic. Not photographic, halographic, krytographic, geographic or anything more exciting. Just grouped with a bunch of bearded, bald guys (most likely not young.) (Oh, well, at least I'm not bald--and hopefully not bearded....... :D ;) )
Do I like the new page? Not really; but the future isn't about me anymore, because in one sense I am definitely the past. I have the same concerns about it--but Robbie and I are doing our best right where we are to foster Ovationistos and Ovationistas for the future who aren't into that particular genre. How I treat them and encourage them in the here-and-now will have a far greater impact in the long run than a "here today, gone tomorrow" ad campaign.
Just my two cents......
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Location: Boise, Idaho | Karen, every group needs a radical, which some might call a misfit. I'd like to be less fat and bald so that I wouldn't match the OFC demographic. |
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Location: Budd Lake, NJ | Woodrow, it's a good thing I was not partaking of liquids when your personalized gitter came up; I would have needed that new keyboard. Thanks for the good laugh! :D :D
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Location: Upper Left USA | Anytime Karen!
May I also add "putting on mascara" to that list? |
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Location: Scotland | Originally posted by bcoombs:
"You are underestimating the intelligence of the kids who listen to this stuff"
And you are underestimating their impressionability (is that a word?).
It's all part of the same slippery slope. It starts with what we consider today as fairly benign (Elvis, Beatles, etc.), but shocking back then. It moves on to Punk, Gangsta Rap, etc., which were a little shocking when they were new, but not so much now, as our tolerance for this kind of stuff (and morality) shifts. Now, groups that glorify death are only a little shocking, as our morality shifts even more. So, what's next? Ah, the decline of moral civilization... It usually happens so subtly that no one even notices... And you think this alleged moral decline is down to a bunch of musicians? Please, enlighten me. Give me some examples of where a specific band/musician or musical genre has led to the moral breakdown of society. And let's have some serious evidence. You know... statistics, graphs, pie-charts. I'm talking "Proof" not just predjudice or hearsay, or a personal distaste for that particular style of music and/or it's fanbase. Maybe you could start with those pesky Hawaiians in 1915, or them damn Darkies with their Blues in the '20's
Lonnie Johson in 1929 sang "Death Is On Your Track" Basically a song that said, among other unpleasantness, if a woman cheats on her man or misbehaves in any way, or if someone cheats at cards they're gonna get murdered as a consequence.. There's a song recorded almost 80 years ago "Glorifing" (sic) death and murder. I guess that must've been the start of the rot. Or maybe they just thought it would sell a bunch of records and they'd make a ton of money cause the public likes that kind of stuff.
I await your "evidence" with baited breath...... |
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Location: Capital District, NY, USA Minor Outlying Islands | The decline of civilization is nie!
It's the end of the world as we know it, and I feel fine. Ovation Fan Club predicts end of the world due to music, news at 11 |
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anyone check the ovation homepage today?
