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Location: Phoenix AZ | I didn't make the connection. I thought "DrDave" you were talking about ME !!!
Yeah Bill, he's the rectocele that bedpanned the EF75 without ever playing or hearing it.
If I drive to the Collings event I'm gonna bring the EF75, the Clarence White and the Slothead.
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Location: Bluffton, SC | DrDave?!?!
Dave, when you hear them talking about Gilligan, then it's time to think they're talking about you. :D
And go get 'em with the 75, CW and Slothead. The jerk. |
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Location: Omaha, NE | If nothing else, the point has been made on the Acoustic Guitar Forum that Ovation bashing will not be ignored.
In the end, that's what matters the most. |
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Location: south east Michigan | I tried to stay clear... I really did.. but I just could not help myself...
Dear drdave....
Like Mr. Moody I am long past spending precious life energy in childish debate over tastes in guitars but I do enjoy a well informed discussion. What makes me dip my toes in the water of this little discourse is your use of such absolute terms as... "Everything", "EVERY ONE of them sucked", and "worst sounding acoustics ever made". Those type of terms are used by the guy who has reached the bottom of the barrel of debateable ideas and is desperate to retain and resembalance of credibility he thought he had. You've backed yourself so far into the corner that the only next step you have is to say, "Oh yeah, well my Dad is better than your Dad... so there!"
Although I test drive every make and model of guitar I can I find, the high end Ovations suit me just fine. I've played many a Taylor, Martin, Collins, etc, etc, and have remained open minded enough to appreciate the good ones.
So drdave, I'll close with a statement that has served me well over the years....
Never argue with an idiot because he'll drag you down to his level and beat you with experience.
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Location: 6 String Ranch | Well said Brad. |
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Location: Colorado Rocky Mountains | Back in the late 60's, I remember similar battles between my classmates about which was better, Ford or Chevy. My position then is pretty much the same as it is now . . . what difference does it make as long as you had one or the other, or anything else (except Ramblers, nobody liked Ramblers), it ran, and you had a license to drive it? Personally, I like the lightbulb post better. |
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Location: Boise, Idaho | We had a Rambler. My first car was an AMC Javelin. I never fit in with the majority then, either. |
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Location: south east Michigan | I really loved my Gremlin.
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Didn't we all get into those Ford vs. Chevy type arguments as a kid? It's how we aquire social skills for the future. It's just part of the growing up process. Unfortunatly some people never get past that lesson. |
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Location: Florida Central Gulf Coast | Originally posted by Mark in Boise:
My first car was an AMC Javelin. Sweet, sweet lil' auto! I'm always keeping my eyes open for one in decent shape.
I didn't care for the AMX... |
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Location: Boise, Idaho | There's a guy in Texas that had a whole yard full of Javelins, AMXs and other AMCs, but I got into collecting guitars instead. I think they're cheaper. |
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Location: Steeler Nation, Hudson Valley Contingent | I drive a mini-van. It holds 5 guitars and a mando inside the rear hatch without having to drop any seats. Oh yeah, it comes in handy for family outings too. :rolleyes: |
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Location: Boise, Idaho | Talk to Damon. I bet he could show you how to get at least 16 guitars in there. |
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Location: Phoenix AZ | For me it was Mets vs. Yankees.
I had a hard time defending my Bombers in those days when the line up was filled with the likes of Horace Clark, Joe Pepitone and Tommy Tresh.
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Location: Colorado Rocky Mountains | Say Dave, were you a big fan in 1963, when my beloved (at the time) Dodgers swept them in 4 straight? Anybody collect baseball cards? I have thousands dating from about 1956 to 1964, and a few from prior years as well, just sitting in shoeboxes in the attic. Scary to think what they might be worth today. |
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Location: Campbell River, British Columbia | For cars, anything with a big back seat worked for me. My GMC panel truck was popular in Highschool for oh, so many reasons....like, the whole gang fit in it! |
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Location: Boise, Idaho | I'm having trouble picturing a gang of Canadian thugs getting out of a GMC panel wagon with their funny hats and black socks, saying "hey".
I drove my parents' International Travelall. We called it the Beast. The Javelin didn't hold as many gang members. |
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Location: Keepin' It Weird in Portland, OR | We turned the odometer over the third time on a Rambler Ambassador.
You could pile seven teenagers and a case of beer in that thing...
More... if you were going out to woods and could have people sitting in the trunk.
And the seats turned into a bed, in case you got Lucky :D |
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| http://www.uk.youtube.com/watch?v=a3p3T3R0dFg&feature=related
the greatest of them all - and notice how 3 pages of comment only discuss how beautiful the music is, not the guitar he's playing. And is trio is Billy Higgins and Charlie Hayden. Total legends to all jazz fans.
I'd love to see DrDave in a room explaining to Pat Metheny, Al di Meola, John McLaughlin, Birelli Lagrene, Adrian Legge and countless others, why they suck so much. |
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Location: Phoenix AZ | Originally posted by ProfessorBB:
Say Dave, were you a big fan in 1963, when my beloved (at the time) Dodgers swept them in 4 straight? I was just getting into it. More like 65-66 when I really became a big fan. Dave |
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| http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=_qAtXtHxrHc&NR=1
another example from several years later - but this time on a $10,000 Manzer. Again, people blown away by the music and nobody mentions the guitar.
The Manzer doers sound better, but by $9,000???? |
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Location: Hot Springs, S.D. | Back about a hundred years ago, when I worked in Moosup, Marcel Dadi came to pick up his guitar and put on a mini concert for us. He first played an old-style (aluminum fretboard) Applause, and let me tell you, it sounded WONDERFUL. Then he played, I believe it was a Legend, and of course it sounded better. The point is, a good guitarist can make ANY guitar (except maybe an Esteban) sound good. I suspect that the reason Dr. Dave doesn't like Ovations is that the dude is a lousy guitarist. |
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| A deep bowl, cedar top and nylon strings...... is the deepest, clearest, most impressive classical guitar I have ever heard.
My Adamas 1's stand up to my close friends $3500-$4500 Taylors, every time we play.
There is no debate...............just lots of Ovation Envy out there.
And YES those who spout about Ovations being inferior have not heard of, nor tried, a deep bowl, american made, Ovation.
Next topic. Ohh yeah the prices.............
Hummm.............well I'd be kinda mad if I paid $3000 or $5000 to get a good Taylor and got a guitar that looks the same as a $50 hondo to the audience at 30'. |
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Location: SoCal | I think my latest post to Dr. Dave is going to get the thread shut down. He's an ass. Did you know he's a shrink? |
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Location: Hot Springs, S.D. | You just proved that not only do Ovation fans have good taste, but are much more articulate than the average bear. Thanks. |
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