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Location: Phoenix AZ | You guys are missing 2 points. First of all it's a guitar made to be played and it's a hell of a lot more bulletproof than most other instruments. Take it out and use it! Mine will be visiting Austin in November. It's just a guitar and in the grand scheme of things it's "above average" price, but not wildly expensive compared to other name brand guitars.
The second thing you're missing is that this is a piece of Ovation history that you'll never create again and could buy for a relatively cheap price. Wouldn't you love to have an original Martin Perry Bechtel 14 fretter, or maybe an original Esquire? Come on there are, and will only ever be, 34 of these historical pieces. If I had the dough I'd buy another one in a heartbeat.
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Location: Brisbane Australia | Would I buy another?
Probably not, unless as Bobbo said, it had Artist history.
Then again!!
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Location: Brisbane Australia | I agree with Dave.
Fender want, and are getting $20k+ for repro Artist guitars.
$20k for an Eddy Van Halen look alike piece of crap?
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Location: 6 String Ranch | Just wait till the get to 30,000.
If I'm still alive then mine will be for sale (lol) |
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Location: Atlanta, GA. | I'm happy that AJ bought my slothead. I'm sure he appreciates it for what it is, but it had no business just sitting in a closet. It should be played!
Would I buy another...??? well, you know. |
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Location: Keepin' It Weird in Portland, OR | On a similar point... I saw an 1680 yesterday, with a Genz Benz, for $2400...
I thought about it, real hard! (it was gone in minutes!)
But I decided that I have enough guitars. |
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Location: Blue Ridge Mountains | You guys are missing 2 points. First of all it's a guitar made to be played and it's a hell of a lot more bulletproof than most other instruments. Take it out and use it! Mine will be visiting Austin in November. It's just a guitar and in the grand scheme of things it's "above average" price, but not wildly expensive compared to other name brand guitars.
The second thing you're missing is that this is a piece of Ovation history that you'll never create again and could buy for a relatively cheap price. Wouldn't you love to have an original Martin Perry Bechtel 14 fretter, or maybe an original Esquire? Come on there are, and will only ever be, 34 of these historical pieces. If I had the dough I'd buy another one in a heartbeat.
Dave My 1948 Martin D-28 is certainly not as bulitproof as the Adami...but I take it out and play it! If you look at the pictures in my gallery you can see it has been played: alot! That's why it sounds so fantastic! If something happened to it I'd be out a large chunk of change and I would not be able to find another very easily. But to me its an awesome feeling owning and playing a 60 year old piece of American Musical History: and its the same with the Slotheads...I am thrilled to own one of the #47 RI's but if I had a chance to buy an original and had the funds: in a N.Y. minute! |
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Location: big island | if one of the original slotheads sounds as good as my 30 year old 1687 and i had the discretionary funds to do so, i'd buy one. and then i'd play it every chance i could. a few days ago i performed with the 1687 in an acoustic only duo for some VIP guests of the hilton at waikoloa. the first hour we played in one of the fine suites and had a hula dancer join us for several songs. then we had a break for an hour and a half before splitting up to play solo in two of hilton's resort boats. i could tell the 1687 was sounding excellent and carried both venues with ease. i heard many compliments, including one from a lady who said her father bought a guitar similar to mine back in 1978 and still plays it.
it ain't got a slothead but it's old, well cared for and is mine for keeps. because this guitar suits my gigging needs so well, i am attempting to sell the 1537 and the 2078T on the for sale board. shameless plug. |
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| The motor for my race car cost about 12K 3 years ago; now it's kinda tired - the guitar probably would have been a better investment since I could have sold it to one of you all..lol |
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Location: Sunshine State, Australia | I wouldn't want one if you gave it to me. |
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Location: Sydney, Australia | There you go AJ, put my name next to that in your will, at least it will get loved, in the unfortunate event that you kark before me. |
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Location: Indiana | I would love to own one. And I'd definitely play it... with respect, but I'd play it.
Realistically though, I'm afraid if I laid down 10k for a guitar, God would reach down and squish me like a bug. She already questions my judgment. That would likely be the last straw. |
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Location: Boise, Idaho | Here's a third point. (I didn't miss the 2 that Dave pointed out, but thought he just said it better.) I have lost more than twice the value of a Slothead in one month in my retirement plan. It's all in fairly conservative "growth" investments. Unfortunately, the growth has been downward. If I had invested in a Slothead, I would have been able to play it, enjoy it, and be proud to own it. I don't really consider guitars investments, because I don't plan on selling them, but at least it would have kept me from losing $10,000 in mutual funds and instead of being pissed off when I look at the monthly report and see that I've lost another chunk of money, I would only be half as pissed and could easily get over it by playing the Slothead instead of the market. |
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Location: Tidal Mudflats of Virginia | My thoughts exactly Mark, the stock market BS has really hurt my retirement funds. Thank goodness I didn't put all my extra $ in that direction. |
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Location: Boise, Idaho | Extra cash?? What's that?? It is tough to save for retirement when the market keeps going down. I suppose it's better than having to come back out of retirement because the market has gone down.
Anyway, guitars probably are depreciating assets, but a Slothead probably won't be, even if you use it. |
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Location: PDX | If, and that is a BIG IF, i had $10k to spend on a guitar i would commission Michihiro Matsuda to build me one to my specs.
I like Ovations but not that much.
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Location: Tidal Mudflats of Virginia | Extra cash?? What's that?? That's what you have when you buy a Ford and not a garage full of Porsche's :p
Just pick'n Mark, our daily driver was made in Germany :D |
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Location: Boise, Idaho | I had a guy try to trade me his Ford pickup for my first Porsche. I slapped the keys down and said "Let's do it." He balked. His new pickup was worth about $20K then and my Porsche was worth $15K. Of course, 3 years later I traded my Porsche for a newer one and got $15K on the trade. His Ford probably wasn't worth half that. The highest resale value car that year was a 79 911SC. That was a good investment. The Boxster is the first car I ever bought new and they were appreciating when I bought it. Wish that was still true. Buy cars or guitars used. |
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Location: Tidal Mudflats of Virginia | We've got a 2004 VW Jetta Wagon TDI, just rolled 50k miles. Took it in for servicing and the dealership offered us a new 2007 gasoline Jetta coupe with less than 50 miles on it as a straight trade. We get 45 mpg city, the coupe gets 21...needless to say, we passed on the trade. |
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Location: Brisbane Australia | I look at it this way.
If I went and bought a new $40k car of any sort.
I would lose more than what I paid for the Slothead the moment I drove it off the dealers floor.
Food for thought
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Location: Tidal Mudflats of Virginia | So true! |
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Location: Colorado Rocky Mountains | Only one way to save money on a car . . . buy a Honda or Toyota, drive it for at least 20 years, and don't buy another one. After working in all the costs of ownership, cars are very expensive, yet we can't seem to live without them.
Back on the original slothead, I would certainly consider buying one if all my other priorities wer behind me. |
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Location: Latitude 39.56819, Longitude -105.080066 | Mark, Tim
Working in the retirement planning field, it always pisses me off when I hear statements like yours. Personally, I think your current FP's suck because there are programs out there that guarantee a return with ZERO chance of loss. Of course your current FP won't make his override every quarter whether you make or lose money, but just listen to him..."hey, the market works in cycles..don't play scared, sit and wait it out"...all while he makes money on your loses.
end rant.....put it in with religion and politics and let it go......still pisses me off though since I rescue people from this BS philosophy daily! |
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Location: Boise, Idaho | I understand risk and reward. When the market was good there was lots of reward. Now we're facing the risk. I still have a diversified fund that is better than most. I had dinner Friday night with 2 retired couples and I was envious of their retirement, but not their lack of income. They were also a bit older than me. |
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Location: So. Cal. | The slotheads that I have definitely sound unique (that sweet ringing treble) if not better than a number of vintage Adamas I's that I own. They have been to almost all of Moody's NAMM party, lying on the sofa for whomever to play. I have taken them to all the gigs since I acquire them. As Dave so eloquently put it, price-wise, it's just a drop in the bucket compare to these other Martin collectibles or the like. Maybe I should get another one... |
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Who would buy an original Slothead Adamas if they had the money?
