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Location: SoCal | Originally posted by bobfrith:
...on the verge of needing a neck reset.
A neck reset on these guitars is not a big deal if you know upfront. The reset becomes part of your acquisition cost.
Get a ball park figure from the Mothership along with a Return Authorization. You buy the guitar and have the seller send it straight to Mother.
I've done it a few times with great results. |
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Location: SoCal | Bruce, I was under the impression that with that bowl, you couldn't do a neck reset. With the older, fiberglass bowls, you could heat them up and bend them back, and with the bowls with the K-bar forward, you could do a reset, but I don't know that one could be done with this guitar.... |
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Location: Phoenix AZ | I think Moody might be right. Are these epoxy dovetail joints? Anyway, yes you can see from the photos that the strings are really close to the top of the bridge. I would just plane down the bridge a little and be done with it. Anyway, Noah is right and all this stuff needs to be taken in to account in the acquisition cost. |
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Location: detroit michigan | I just wanted to comment on the current comments about the neck. This guitar does not in any way need a neck reset. Yes the saddle piece is set low however the action is also very low. I play jazz and require very low action. If you were a picker you would want to raise the action on this guitar to avoid string buzz. From the Ovations I've owned, 2 under saddle shims is too high one shim is normal, and both removed is very low action, and this guitar would conform to that rule. The truss rod is free and is nowhere near max. I put a straight edge to the board when setting the truss rod, as well as then leveling and dressing the frets. To me this guitar has about the best neck set I've seen on a vintage Ovation. That coupled with the fact that nylon strings don't put much force on a neck compared with steel strings and I can't see how you could imply from a picture that a neck set might be needed. It is simply set for low action currently. Thanks. |
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Location: Phoenix AZ | I've been outbid. Oh well. |
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Location: California | And yes, there is a little Abalone overload. |
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Location: Michigan | It is on CL in Detroit if anyone is interested. The price should give you some idea of what the reserve will be.
http://detroit.craigslist.org/mcb/msg/1531755858.html |
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Location: South of most, North of few | Ouch. Well out of my reach. |
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Location: Phoenix AZ | Good luck |
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Location: detroit michigan | WARNING: For anyone on this topic.
I am the seller of this guitar and I DID NOT PUT THIS GUITAR ON CRAIGSLIST! I have no ideas who did but thanks for mentioning it. I just FLAGGED the ad for removal but I have no idea how long the process takes. This just gets better and better with this guitar.
Don't respond or send any money to the person on Craigslist. I hope it will be taken down quickly. Thank You to the person who posted this info, since the ad does not go to my email I would have never known it existed. |
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Location: Phoenix AZ | WOW. Good catch.
I bet this stuff goes on all the time. |
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Location: Latitude 39.56819, Longitude -105.080066 | hasselhoff,
you should contact the seller and arrange to buy it.
then have the cops show up with the payment. |
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Location: Atlanta, GA. | It'll never sell with the bass E string wound to the inside of the slothead. tsk, tsk, tsk. |
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Location: Nova Scotia, Canada | I'd be all over this if it only had the Custom Legend bling and not all of the crazy looking added inlay. |
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Location: Right now? | What would be the purpose or rationale of the person putting it up on Craigs List with the Ebay auction number, which does indeed link to the actual Ebay listing? This makes no sense.
:confused: :rolleyes: :(
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Location: Corning, NY | Originally posted by WillaMuse:
What would be the purpose or rationale of the person putting it up on Craigs List with the Ebay auction number, which does indeed link to the actual Ebay listing? This makes no sense.
:confused: :rolleyes: :(
Willa Seller agrees to end the auction as soon as he recieves your payment through money order or PayPal to avoid the eBay fees. Then you wonder why the auction doesn't end and where your money went. People fall for it all the time, no matter how stupid it sounds. |
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Location: Right now? | Seller agrees to end the auction as soon as he recieves your payment through money order or PayPal to avoid the eBay fees. Then you wonder why the auction doesn't end and where your money went. People fall for it all the time, no matter how stupid it sounds.
Afortune, I could see a scam with a money order, but with PayPal? Wouldn't they protect your purchase?
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Location: Keepin' It Weird in Portland, OR | If you pay with PayPal for a evilBay purchase you are protected by the evilBay/PayPal conglomerate.
If you just send the money to the sellers email address your protection is limited.
Or maybe non-existent. |
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Location: closely held secret | Probably not. Paypal's not likely to go out of their way for someone who got scammed trying to help a seller evade eBay fees... |
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Location: NW Washington State | Originally posted by Old Man Arthur:
If you pay with PayPal for a evilBay purchase you are protected by the evilBay/PayPal conglomerate. OMA says we're protected by a conglomerate? The world will come to an end as the anarchists rampage through the Park Blocks! :) |
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Location: Corning, NY | Willa,
PayPal can only pull back your money if the seller's account is still there with money in it. If you read some of the "bad deal" threads on other forums, you'll hear that sad story many times. If you pay with a credit card through PayPal, at least you can protect yourself more. The key to the scam is to appear legit and trustworthy (using PayPal) but relying on someone else's reputation. You look at the eBay auction and see a seller with an impeccable feedback rating and then this great seller wants to help you get a great deal if they can avoid the eBay fees. "Even better, if you send the money through PayPal as a gift, you can avoid the PayPal fees, too." You also avoid any possible recourse through PayPal. And of course the real seller has never heard of you. Scammers will also assume the identity of someone on a forum (someone with a sales history but inactive lately) and use their rep to make a few bogus sales. |
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Location: Texas | A couple of things...
He obviously has a price in mind, because he has a reserve. Funny how the Craigslist ad is from the same area. My thought was no one gets what they ask for on Craigslist, so it was a bartering ploy for a local pickup offer, where he wouldn't have to pay ebay fees AND go through the hassle of shipping it. Actually that route is preferable, because the buyer can see, inspect and play the guitar before money exchanges hands. Anyone not local, that buys off craigslist, is an extreme risk taker...and probably a fool. It HAS to be considered a local want ad.
Or it could have been a way to get more folks to bid on the "cheaper" ebay auction. It is a win/win ploy for the seller, imo.
About Paypal. Paying through paypal WITH a paypal credit card is the best protection one can have, using that process. I say this from personal experience. I was scammed using a straight pay (no auction) for about 1400 (no lectures) and when I called the paypal crisis center, they handled it like I had paid through paypal and acted like I was out the $$$...until I reminded them I used the paypal cc and then he said "oh, then you are covered"...and sure enough I was reimbursed.
I will say this. I have done over a thousand transactions through paypal, with about 1% of those being buyer& or seller issues and have yet to get hosed by paypal on either end. They lean a little more to protecting they buyer and that can be frustrating, unless you are the buyer :-)
Cool guitar. One of a kind. You like to see those pop up so you can go...Damn they did good work back then. I actually would like to hear how it sounds against a stock 1624 from around the same time (unplugged). Maybe not in this case, but isn't that what buying any guitar is about...the sound? |
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Location: Right now? | SOLD for $1,500 plus S&H ...
So who's the lucky winner?
C'mon ... give it up!
(And sincere congratulations! I would have loved to have this one!)
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Location: Thailand | Thanks, Willa
It's me.
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Location: Steeler Nation, Hudson Valley Contingent | Originally posted by povation:
Thanks, Willa
It's me.
povation Yup, that was my guess. Congrats Povation! |
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Custom Ordered 1975 Country Artist 1624-4 w/Stereo Electronics
