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cliff |
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Joined: March 2002 Posts: 14842 Location: NJ | Here y'go, Wood: Inconel" target="_blank" title="http://www.specialmetals.com/documents/High%20Strength%20Corrosion%20resistant%20Alloy%20686%20for%20Seawater%20Fastener%20Service.pdf#search='inconel']Inconel">http://www.specialmetals.com/documents/High%20Strength%20Corrosion%... | ||
Mark in Boise |
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Joined: March 2005 Posts: 12755 Location: Boise, Idaho | Be careful not to scratch the bridge or the top with your tubing and keep it in a sterile container. I've found that catheter tubes work well, but not after they've been used for their intended purpose. They come in various sizes, depending on the size of your penis, so if you go in and tell them you need one for a .012, be prepared to respond to the laughter with a citation to this thread. Then be prepared to respond to more laughter. I think I'll solve this problem by never changing my strings. | ||
GN-Nick |
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Joined: July 2005 Posts: 176 | sure break angle can affect "crispness" so can an ill fitting saddle. My Breedlove has no such issues and I've been playing them for years. Mark, once you insert the catheter into your penis, what are you supposed to do with the strings? This has got to be the ovation answer to the "will fossilized pteradactyl ivory bridge pins make my guitar sound better" thread. | ||
cliff |
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Joined: March 2002 Posts: 14842 Location: NJ | Yes. (but plesiosaur works better . . .) | ||
Designzilla |
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Joined: December 2004 Posts: 2150 Location: Orlando, FL | Mark, once you insert the catheter into your penis, what are you supposed to do with the strings? Nick you just wrap the Low E around the testicles and cinch 'em up tight. That way you can hit the high notes. That's why I don't sing much, too painfull. :eek: | ||
Hal Jordan |
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Joined: August 2005 Posts: 122 Location: toneville USA | Originally posted by Standingovation: you da man dave. i ran out and grabbed a can of WD40, as i couldn't find the stuff you were talking about. i used the new tube as you suggest, it works well, except i can see why you say use harder stuff, strings still sound a little dull, like there's plastic residue on them. but it's much improved. i had to slit one to fit a low E 56 through, and it's still not perfect, but again- tons better. Originally posted by Hal Jordan: The answer is that the ovation pinless bridge clogs the windings of your strings with wood debris that kills the sound. This is a well know issue any why a lot of people prefer Martin type pinned bridges. thanks...but i want answers, damnit!! To avoid this problem, what most of us due is to use a small piece of plastic protective tubing while re-strining. Get the hard kind. OD 2mm, ID 1mm. Cut about a 2 inch piece of the tubing. When stringing, slip the tube into the bridge hole from the saddle side. Push it in all the way until it stops. Then feed the string through the normal end. Once the string is completely pulled through against the stop, slide the tube off the string. Bingo, you have threaded through the bridge and not gotten it all gunked up with wood dust. You should notice an improved sound from the wound strings. Note - you don't have to go through this procedure for the plain strings. Dave where can i get the stuff you use???????????? again, you are the MAN dave! best, GL | ||
schroeder |
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Joined: November 2004 Posts: 4413 | It's not April 1st guys. Very clever, very cruel. I like it. | ||
Jeff W. |
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Joined: November 2003 Posts: 11039 Location: Earth·SolarSystem·LocalInterstellarCloud·Local Bub | Glad to know it's working for ya. I'm going to use an old ball point cartridge. Maybe, I can find one of the old metal kind and bend it just so, until we can the pyrex kind. ....from Cliff's connection. | ||
Jeff W. |
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Joined: November 2003 Posts: 11039 Location: Earth·SolarSystem·LocalInterstellarCloud·Local Bub | Heya Schroeder, Good to hear you're invinsible today!! | ||
Hal Jordan |
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Joined: August 2005 Posts: 122 Location: toneville USA | Originally posted by schroeder: ???It's not April 1st guys. Very clever, very cruel. I like it. | ||
Mark in Boise |
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Joined: March 2005 Posts: 12755 Location: Boise, Idaho | Nick, I hope you are OK. The other guys were a little too subtle, so I decided to go over the top. At least I thought they were kidding. If everyone else was serious, this board is even more full of wackos than I thought. My wife's great uncle used to love to talk about his catheters and gross everyone out. I decided that it would be a fun thing to do when I got old. He's the same one who had me try a pinch of tobacco just before dinner. I promptly swallowed some of the tobacco, which kept me from swallowing any of the dinner. All the prospective inlaws had a great laugh while I puked in the bathroom. I got back at them by marrying into that family. | ||
schroeder |
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Joined: November 2004 Posts: 4413 | Just my way of saying I don't believe a word of it....... | ||
GN-Nick |
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Joined: July 2005 Posts: 176 | Now you tell me. Anyone want to buy a slightly used catheter? | ||
MWoody |
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Joined: December 2003 Posts: 13987 Location: Upper Left USA | My original entry was in reference to a string of posts that discussed how new guitars actually start to sound better within a month of playing. This observation was questioned and eventually covered setting your O in front of a speaker to "condition" it and align the molecules in the soundboard. I conclude there is a "break in" period where Player and Instrument learn how to express themselves. | ||
Bluebird |
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Joined: May 2002 Posts: 1445 Location: Nova Scotia, Canada | I think it works best if the PLAYER sits in front of a good speaker for a while to condition himself instead of the guitar. Wayne | ||
Designzilla |
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Joined: December 2004 Posts: 2150 Location: Orlando, FL | I think there was a thread a while back about a machine that conditions guitars by subjecting them to vibrations. Supposed to be the equivalent of years of playing. | ||
cliff |
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Joined: March 2002 Posts: 14842 Location: NJ | ". . wrap the Low E around the testicles and cinch 'em up tight. That way you can hit the high notes . ." - He's hit upon my secret for "Taxi" . . . damn! (although he DID leave out that you gotta hook up the end of the string to an old kick-drum foot pedal - leaves your hands free for guitar accompanyment . . .) | ||
Waskel |
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Joined: February 2005 Posts: 11840 Location: closely held secret | That's why you winced every time you tapped your foot that night... | ||
Hal Jordan |
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Joined: August 2005 Posts: 122 Location: toneville USA | dave...can you tell me what you use/where to get the tubing? thanks GL | ||
Jeff W. |
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Joined: November 2003 Posts: 11039 Location: Earth·SolarSystem·LocalInterstellarCloud·Local Bub | Bye the way, the Lowden has a pinless bridge and Thor himself would be envious of the thunderous bass. | ||
moody, p.i. |
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Joined: March 2002 Posts: 15664 Location: SoCal | But when he smacks it with his hammer, will it survive as an Ovation bowl would? | ||
Hal Jordan |
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Joined: August 2005 Posts: 122 Location: toneville USA | Originally posted by Jeff W.: guitars with dead strings usually do sound bassier... Bye the way, the Lowden has a pinless bridge and Thor himself would be envious of the thunderous bass. that's what you get with a pinless. DAVE WHEREE ARE YOU!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! | ||
Jeff W. |
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Joined: November 2003 Posts: 11039 Location: Earth·SolarSystem·LocalInterstellarCloud·Local Bub | Deep and dead are very different things. The bass rings like a bell, just a deep dark bell, nothing dead about it... Btw, have you tried StewMac for those string tubes? | ||
Jeff W. |
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Joined: November 2003 Posts: 11039 Location: Earth·SolarSystem·LocalInterstellarCloud·Local Bub | This is an excerpt from and email on pinless bridges I received from George Lowden.... Pin bridges which dry out during winter may 'stretch' the glue joint but only if humidity becomes very low ( with some warmth as well) and possibly combined with a more flat sawn bridge ( as opposed to 1/4 sawn) would a pin bridge actually completely dislodge itself. However, if the above conditions are applied to a pin-less bridge where all the 'pull' of the strings is directly on the bridge itself the bridge will be more likely to come off rather than just 'stretch' the joint. It is rather rare for this to happen, and in a perverse way it is easier to repair a bridge which comes off than one which has merely stretched its joint with the top. The advantages of a pin-less bridge (enabling a more tone sensitive bracing system) are such that I aim to continue with this design in the future. | ||
matrix |
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Joined: February 2006 Posts: 140 | I've been playing Ovations for 28 years, and I too have never heard of such a thing. | ||
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