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Location: Orlando, FL | I love my roundbacks, but I have no problem with Ovation trying something new and different. This is not just copying a wood box design, it is an innovation of the roundback. |
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Location: Orlando, FL | Oh yeah, I also agree, keep contour bowls on US models ONLY! |
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Location: Phoenix AZ | Well, I would definately consider myself a traditionalist. Shiny bowls and storms surround me as I type this. But I also endorse the new. Contour bowls, cateyes, whatever. It would be wonderful if Ovation could just offer EVERYTHING, then we'd all be happy. But in my opinon, previous attempts to "offer everything" have largely been what's responsible for Ovation being relegated to second class status among the general public of guitar buyers ("they get no respect", some idiot once said). Trying new and innovative things is what Ovation is all about. And I think with the Contour bowl they have hit a Home Run. Dave |
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Location: Earth·SolarSystem·LocalInterstellarCloud·Local Bub | i don't care whether the CB creeps into the Celeb line or not.
Let's not kid ourselves, the CB was designed to make the roundback feel more like a box guitar...
There are inherent qualities to the roundback that make it in-and-of-itself appealling and I would be disappointed to see it go. |
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Location: Colorado Rocky Mountains | After looking at some stage shots playing my 1651 deep bowl, I must admit the position looks odd. The sound hole is at a 45 degree angle above the audience, and they see nothing but the bottom side. It is always plugged in so the sound is unaffected, but holding a deep bowl, even for flat bellies like me, looks odd. After so many years, it doesn't feel odd. That said, I do look forward to trying a contour back. Even if I really liked the position and sound, I see it no higher than about ninth on my GAS relief list. |
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Location: Latitude 39.56819, Longitude -105.080066 | Jeff....that is just gross! |
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Location: Latitude 39.56819, Longitude -105.080066 | Professor, should I add the contour bowl to the guitars I need to bring over next time? |
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| Before we get overly contoured, a few questions.
Was the 2005 that big of a success? The one at my guitar center sat there forever and on-line retailors had them for a long time. The one Collector's I played sounded good, but not so incredible that I was ready to cash in my elite lx and buy the collector. To me, and I reserve the right to be wrong, the collector from 2005 was almost an attempt to get an Ovation not to look like an ovation. I want to play more contours before I make a final judgement. Is the contour going to sway some of those anti-ovation types? Does the contour take care of those who can find nothing wrong with Ovations other than the slipping off the lap story? Is the contour theb way of the future in the same manner the lx is taking over? |
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Location: Upper Left USA | "almost an attempt to get an Ovation not to look like an ovation".
I thought this at first but I don't think its so. Our local Ted Brown has sold at least two of these and a constant stream of Adamas as well.
I think its just another flavor and not a wave. |
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Location: Phoenix AZ | Forget for the moment that I'm a huge contour bowl fan. I'll try to be objective (honest). The CB is not the end-all solution to every ailment known to man. But I do think it accomplishes the following:
1. Larger cavity volume than mid depth without making the bowl deeper.
2. Flatter player position when playing standing.
3. Guitar rests better and flatter on the knee when playing sitting.
If someone does not see these as shortcoming of the roundback, then they will not see any benefit to the contour bowl. That's probably the case with 90% of us here. Jeff was absolutely right, the contour bowl is designed to remove a barrier that Ovation has had to being accepted by a lot of potential players.
My worry is that Ovation will shoot themselves in the foot if they try to offer too many models which look similar in multiple configurations.
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Location: Orlando, FL | I always thought the coutour was for comfort (and like I said I haven't played one).
It seems to be the answer to the people who try Ovations for the first time and never really listen to the sound or feel how great it plays because "it keeps slipping off my leg". Which I never understood, because for some strange reason I can hold em just fine. |
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Location: Orlando, FL | Does anyone else think playing a wood box guitar feels weird? Kinda uncomfortable, sharp edges and stuff. Or is it just me? |
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Location: closely held secret | No, D, it ain't just you. I find I don't enjoy playing box guitars anymore. Even my wife's Dean, which isn't that big or deep, cuts off the circulation to my right arm after a few minutes. Probably bad posture on my part, but that's the way it is. |
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Location: Phoenix AZ | A lot of potential buyers dismiss Ovation because of the plastic bowl. Anything you can do to lessen that perception, the more likely you are to make a sale. The contour bowl makes it feel more like a normal guitar. So in principle, people can no longer say it feels "funny" or slips off their knee. The fact that roundbacks don't slip off MY knee does nothing to sell more guitars for Ovation. |
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Location: Earth·SolarSystem·LocalInterstellarCloud·Local Bub | I agree Dizzy,
I much prefer my roundbacks for playing comfort. I love the Lowden, but it is nowhere near as comfortable to play as my O's. |
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Location: Phoenix AZ | Originally posted by Jeff W.:
I much prefer my roundbacks for playing comfort. I love the Lowden, but it is nowhere near as comfortable to play as my O's. Blah, blah, blah ... hey, I prefer silk underwear, but that doesn't mean I wear them.
OK, I guess we are officially off topic now. Let the fun begin ...
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Location: Cicero, NY | Me either but I have been known to take them off. :eek: |
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Location: Snellville, GA | MMMMMmmmm...silk boxxxerrrrssss.... |
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