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Phil Wong
Posted 2006-05-22 3:27 PM (#254007 - in reply to #253982)
Subject: Re: OFC 06 the final word


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I can get you a final head count when my pictures come back. I can do a head count with the group picture.
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ProfessorBB
Posted 2006-05-22 3:31 PM (#254008 - in reply to #253982)
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Hats off to those who made the event happen. I envy those who could make it. Speaking for the huge majority who couldn't, please let us know ASAP when next year's event is scheduled so that we can start making arrangements now. A number of things are already booked in some of our 2007 calendars and many of us can't tolerate another missed opportunity like this.
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alpep
Posted 2006-05-22 3:43 PM (#254009 - in reply to #253982)
Subject: Re: OFC 06 the final word


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Originally posted by Phil Wong:
I can get you a final head count when my pictures come back. I can do a head count with the group picture.
some people left or did not show up for the picture. I tried to get everyone out teacher mode kicked in full time.
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Weaser P
Posted 2006-05-22 4:10 PM (#254010 - in reply to #253982)
Subject: Re: OFC 06 the final word


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Originally posted by Slipkid:
In person Weaser is more subdued than you would ever believe. I'm not sure it's really him that I met.
I decided to show the kinder, gentler Weaser in my initial run through the Tour, Brad. Hate getting thrown out the first time through... :rolleyes:
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worshipleader
Posted 2006-05-22 4:15 PM (#254011 - in reply to #253982)
Subject: Re: OFC 06 the final word


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Originally posted by Trboy:
GREAT JOB! Well Done,Al.....Thank You!

And "Thank You" to everyone at Ovation!
DITTO!
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ignimbyte
Posted 2006-05-22 8:36 PM (#254012 - in reply to #253982)
Subject: Re: OFC 06 the final word


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Originally posted by Weaser P:
I decided to show the kinder, gentler Weaser in my initial run through the Tour. Hate getting thrown out the first time through... :rolleyes:
Hmm ... the benefits for being silent and incognito ... then again, I just might not have a clue with what the heck I'm talking about. :confused: :D :rolleyes:
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Weaser P
Posted 2006-05-22 8:54 PM (#254013 - in reply to #253982)
Subject: Re: OFC 06 the final word


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Talk about being silent and incognito! One of the nicest voices in the crowd as well as being a pretty darn good Croce picker and I couldn't talk you into letting the crowd in on that little secret! :rolleyes: :D
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Jeff W.
Posted 2006-05-22 8:56 PM (#254014 - in reply to #253982)
Subject: Re: OFC 06 the final word


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One word...

Tequilla.
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Stevechapman
Posted 2006-05-22 9:13 PM (#254015 - in reply to #253982)
Subject: Re: OFC 06 the final word


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I've said this in anotehr thread, but i'll say it again. I really missed being there this year. As i look at the photos that some have posted, it serves as a reminder of the great time i had in 04. Glad Trboy(Mike) got to make it this year,Guess teh South by Southwest reunion was 3 people short! :)
Hope to make it to next years tour.
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Weaser P
Posted 2006-05-22 9:16 PM (#254016 - in reply to #253982)
Subject: Re: OFC 06 the final word


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Originally posted by Jeff W.:
One word...

Tequilla.
Yep - next year, he's toast. ;)
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BruDeV
Posted 2006-05-22 11:13 PM (#254017 - in reply to #253982)
Subject: Re: OFC 06 the final word


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Next year use a guest book that everyone has to sign.
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Strummin12
Posted 2006-05-23 1:05 AM (#254018 - in reply to #253982)
Subject: Re: OFC 06 the final word


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Many thanks to all who extended themselves to make this event fantastic!

The highest of the highlights for me this time:

-Staying up to the wee hours (3am) Thursday night with Woz, Mike, and Paul Temp for a discussion about religion and politics that was interesting, civil, and respectful. Not bad for a bunch of guitar players!

-Waking up after only 3 hours sleep the next morning to impart what I pretend I know about songwriting to some good friends, who are brilliant musicians. There was great input from a very talented bunch of guys I really respect, and I learned a lot myself. Temp's workshop was great too.

-Having the chance to chat extensively with Darren at Ovation, and learning that the factory can make a 12 string version of the Adamas 2080. I just may have to sell a kidney to purchase one...

-The late Friday night lobby jam between Paul Templeman and Matt Smith. Simply breathtaking! If it wasn't for Matt's class the next morning, I probably would have quit playing guitar after hearing this jam.

-Matt Smith's workshop Saturday morning. The man has a way of taking the mystery out of guitar playing, and making the great musical "Ah-ha's" attainable to even this humbled guitar hack.

It was a true pleasure to hang, a privilege to be surrounded by great musicians, and to have fun with these friends...again. Let's do it next year too, ok?

Be well, and all the best to ya'll!
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MWoody
Posted 2006-05-23 1:09 AM (#254019 - in reply to #253982)
Subject: Re: OFC 06 the final word



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So how many cool guitars were there?

There were more than a handful of Adamas I's going around. I was having one of those sit back and watch moments when Cliff says "try this" and hands me something blue.

It took me a little to realize it was the first of the 3 slotheads I would play that weekend.

:D
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Tony Calman
Posted 2006-05-23 1:45 AM (#254020 - in reply to #253982)
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I know that nothing can replace the "mojo" of the originals made decades ago...but Cliff brought his slothead (and others most likely played it) - Cliff and others...your critical assessment of the 47RI v. the original?

Is the spirit alive in the 47RI? How would it place in a blind play test?

Personally, I feel my 47RI is the finest guitar I have played. Course, I haven't played a pre-war Martini with split sides and gouges in the back and top selling for over $100,000.

But, does it stand equal to the original?

Details!
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mtnbikerfred
Posted 2006-05-23 2:19 AM (#254021 - in reply to #253982)
Subject: Re: OFC 06 the final word


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All I can say is I'm Blessed beyond belief. I'm so thankful to have met all of you, and I cannot wait for next year. Thanks to all who made it possible, and to all who helped get me and others there. I'd like to especially thank Al, Kim, Frank U, Frank R, John, Mark, and and all of the factory staff, especially the Hamer guys for putting up with us.
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Slipkid
Posted 2006-05-23 7:06 AM (#254022 - in reply to #253982)
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The guest book thing is a great idea.

Reading these threads makes me realize that I wish I had spent more time with some members. Or maybe I should wish for more time to spend. There was always something going on.
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cliff
Posted 2006-05-23 7:49 AM (#254023 - in reply to #253982)
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Tony;
Alas, I didn't get the opportunity to play a 47RI.

I've played the ORIGINAL 47 a number of times (along with a few of the other original Slots - at the "Reunion"). Naturally, each had their own little nuance or idiosyncracy, but to my cloth ear, they ALL sounded GREAT!!

That being said, I had three seperate people walk up to me at the Factory and tell me that "to THEIR ears", they liked the sound of the 54 better than the 47RI . . . AND the original 47. Conversely, I had two other people say the exact opposite.

It's all highly subjective.
Old/new strings, ambient room noise, tequila (or lack thereof) can factor greatly on different people's perceptions . . . .

I wish I'd had a crack at one of the RI's, but I was late getting to the Factory. I was herding cats for Al at the morning sessions at the Hotel. We got to the Factory at the LunchBreak, and I made four trips (back&forth) from Engineering to my car to return guitars, and another trip out to the lot to check out Fugot's 1537. By the time I made it back, I had time to wolf down a slice o'pizza, and it was off to the afternoon Tour . . .

From everything that I've been told by others, the 47RI's have "it".
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Jeff W.
Posted 2006-05-23 7:58 AM (#254024 - in reply to #253982)
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Originally posted by Tony Calman:
Is the spirit alive in the 47RI? How would it place in a blind play test?
I played Cliff's 54, #47 and 47RI #'s 15 and 16. In my opinion of all the 47's including original, #15 was the best. It had the mojo, bigger sound, better overtones, neck felt right. I played the 47's side by side.

Cliff's slot has that same mojo, but I played it away from the 47's and in different circumstances, so I can't compare to the 47's, but it was a killah!!
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Tupperware
Posted 2006-05-23 8:37 AM (#254025 - in reply to #253982)
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Not a very objective test, but I played #47 (orig.) and one of the other beige originals of Bills that was hanging there. Both sounded great, but sounded distinctly different. I then played RI15 and RI16. To my ears teh RI's sounded closer to the beige one than to #47. But it was very subtle. To me, 15 and 16 sounded damn near identical and I think that's the big difference of the RI's vs. the originals - the RI's benefit from 30 years of practice and I'm sure will ALL sound very much alike and ALL wonderful. I played Cliff's at the hotel and also borrowed it for the Friday workshops - I love that guitar. Summary - The RI's and the originals as a group are JUST FREAKING AMAZING.

Dave
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MWoody
Posted 2006-05-23 8:51 AM (#254026 - in reply to #253982)
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Tony,

You just shudda been there!
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stephent28
Posted 2006-05-23 9:25 AM (#254027 - in reply to #253982)
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Tony, if you are second guessing your purchase and feel the need to pursue an original, I can help you out by taking that used #47 RI off your hands... :D
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Woz
Posted 2006-05-23 10:03 AM (#254028 - in reply to #253982)
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When Moody P.I. says he knows 3 cords... He lies. When I say it... It's the truth. (I do play a mean shaker)

That said. I enjoy the "O" sound and sing a little. I've been lucky to find a few fine examples of the "Mother Ships" work and get a major kick out of letting others make them "sing".

I had #3 son's acting debut in a high school play to attend Friday night. It was one of those can't miss... Sooo, I got to the hotel early (2:00PM)Thursday and closed it down with Johnny, Temp, and Mike at 3:00 AM.
Cliff did label me "Rush" chairman for working the crowd Thursday night.

I was sad that I couldn't make the Jam... I knew it wasn't going to happen weeks ago.

So for one that could only make the "tour" for (26 hours)...

IT WAS WORTH IT!

Thanks to Al, the Mother Ship, and all the aliens that make this OFC work.

Still smiling.

Woz
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cliff
Posted 2006-05-23 10:52 AM (#254029 - in reply to #253982)
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Woz;
It is ALWAYS a pleasure to be in your company (now matter how brief).
Next year, you and will have to sit down and you can teach me the finer points of scotch-drinking ;-)
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Sleepy Eyes McGee
Posted 2006-05-23 11:10 AM (#254030 - in reply to #253982)
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Without turning this post into a short story ;) heres what I got out of the entire event.
THE FACTORY:
I worked at a guitar factory many years ago. I've taken other factory tours as well as having worked with private luthiers.The one thing that made a lasting impression was the balance of "machine vs.hands on".Now what I mean by that is that if all the O factory craftsmen were to leave today none of our guitars would sound the same from tommorow on.I've seen other places where a walkout wouldnt make that much of a difference 'cause there was so much automation going on in 2-3 weeks you could have another guy doing the job that the previous guy was doing for 15-20 years. Building a guitar is an art,and its because of the artists that build 'em over there that they kickass! :D
THE PEOPLE:
Fantastic! Everyone was available to answer any and all questions not only during the Q & A but also one on one. I was also bothering the guys on the plant floor about different things they were doing and they were happy to answer all my questions. You knew these guys were VERY passionate and it was good to talk shop with them.Again, its really these guys that make the magic happen.
THE OFC:
you guys are all nuts!!!
Grass skirts, public nudity,Paul with a flower in his hair and Brad..The Horror...The Horror. :eek: .Besides having THE best sounding guitar there,Cliff belted out Tush and the power in that mans voice is amazing.I guess I should start working on some cover tunes so hopefully I'll be able to sit in on more of the jams that were going on. It was nice to sit with Matt Smith and talk about some of the guys we've worked with though,and doing the jam at the lodge was fun.Lots of talent was displayed and for some hopefully it will be an incentive to get thier butt in gear for next year.
BIG THANKS:
If I start naming names I know I will leave someone out.There is only one man who is our liason between the OFC and the factory and that is AL.Great time {someone cover up Brad, please!},Great fun. Al, thanks for coordinating with the factory and making this happen. Lets just say sometimes I see you being like "IAN" and the club being like "Nigel,David,and Derek",but I for one greatly appreciate the efforts. :) Al, YOU ROCK!!!!!
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cliff
Posted 2006-05-23 11:20 AM (#254031 - in reply to #253982)
Subject: Re: OFC 06 the final word


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actually, . . . Al "RAWKS"!!!!


SleepyEyes; . . . You/Me/Al and a few others here need t'get together this summer and HookItUp - "JerseyStyle"!!! . . . .
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