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TAFKAR
Posted 2008-09-03 6:19 PM (#22474 - in reply to #22449)
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I've used Macs exclusively at home for about 18 years. During that time, every workplace I've worked in had PCs, so I'm familiar with them. Knowing both systems, it just seems easier and simpler to get things done on a Mac. The biggest problems I have on my Mac usually relate to a badly written piece of software by some company. The things that work best (generally) are those where Apple writes the software and designs the hardware.
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Mr. Ovation
Posted 2008-09-03 7:19 PM (#22475 - in reply to #22449)
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I've used PC's exclusively at home for about 18+ years. During that time, every workplace I've worked in had PCs, so I'm familiar with them. Knowing both systems, it just seems easier and simpler to get things done on a PC. The biggest problems I have on my PC usually relate to a badly written piece of software by some company. The things that work best (generally) are those where Microsoft Certified companies write the software and design the hardware.
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TAFKAR
Posted 2008-09-03 7:30 PM (#22476 - in reply to #22449)
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You havin' a lend o' me?
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Damon67
Posted 2008-09-03 7:30 PM (#22477 - in reply to #22449)
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I'll just stay out of this one.

We should add Mac vs PC to the list of unmentionables here.

No:
Politics
Religion
Mac vs PC debates
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Gallerinski
Posted 2008-09-03 9:06 PM (#22478 - in reply to #22449)
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I would add boxers vs. briefs to that list ...
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Weaser P
Posted 2008-09-03 9:14 PM (#22479 - in reply to #22449)
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So commando is acceptable?

I love this place.
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fillhixx
Posted 2008-09-03 9:48 PM (#22480 - in reply to #22449)
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Gonch is for pussys!
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stephent28
Posted 2008-09-03 9:48 PM (#22481 - in reply to #22449)
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Weazy....too much info.
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Weaser P
Posted 2008-09-03 9:54 PM (#22482 - in reply to #22449)
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...sorry... :rolleyes:
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muzza
Posted 2008-09-03 11:48 PM (#22483 - in reply to #22449)
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Macs are easier to navigate. That's just my opinion.

Most things you do on a PC you can do on a Mac. That's just my opinion.

If you have a PC specific program, you can still use a Mac. Apple has software that enables you to install and run Windoze natively. In other words, your mac boots up and runs Windoze pretty much like a PC. My expertise, if you can call it that, runs out at the PCI hardware stuff. Desktop Macs have PCI slots, but you're talking serious money now.

The ONLY program that I need windoze for is AutoCad. For EVERYTHING else, I use OSX.

Like Dave sez, not better, but different. (For me personally, Macs are MUCH better. Rememembering that opinions are like assholes, everyone has one.) That's just my opinion.

In a nutshell, Macs can run Windoze, Linux AND OSX. A PC can run Windoze and Linux. That's not my opinion, that one's a fact.

Some folks are diehard PC users, some folks are diehard Ovation players.

I play Ovations and use Macs. Kind of goes hand-in-hand.

Richard, he's not having a shot at you, he's just replaced all your instances of "Mac" with "PC" and on the whole, he's right (Except for the bit about stuff written by Micro$oft being reliable.
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Waskel
Posted 2008-09-04 12:15 AM (#22484 - in reply to #22449)
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So, apparently someone felt there was windows software worth the trouble to make a Mac capable of running it, but no one seems to care whether Mac software runs on anything else.
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muzza
Posted 2008-09-04 12:21 AM (#22485 - in reply to #22449)
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Yup!

So?

(See FlySig? Diehards! :rolleyes: )

BTW, one weak point that I'd like to point out to you about a Mac is the Safari browser. If I have any complaints about Mac, it's easily overcome by installing FireFox. But that's just my opinion.
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dvd
Posted 2008-09-04 12:30 AM (#22486 - in reply to #22449)
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Originally posted by The Wabbit Formerly Known As Waskel:
So, apparently someone felt there was windows software worth the trouble to make a Mac capable of running it, but no one seems to care whether Mac software runs on anything else.
I suspect the OSx86 project folks would disagree with you there, John. And the Psystar folks. All of the commercial players are respecting Apple's "only on Apple hardware" license restrictions.
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Gallerinski
Posted 2008-09-04 12:49 AM (#22487 - in reply to #22449)
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It's a pointless discussion. Some people like Macs and some like PCs and that's just fine. For every arguement you can find a counter arguement. I know what I like and that's all that matters to me. We all have different needs and different levels of tolerance and expectation. Pick what works best for you. I'm glad I did.


Dave
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dvd
Posted 2008-09-04 1:14 AM (#22488 - in reply to #22449)
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Dave, yours should be the final word on the subject. You're right. Except you left out Linux. :D Just kidding!
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stephent28
Posted 2008-09-04 2:40 AM (#22489 - in reply to #22449)
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I'm running on an Atari ST.
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schroeder
Posted 2008-09-04 5:20 AM (#22490 - in reply to #22449)
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I love my MacBook.
I love my utes.
They all remind me of each other.
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Waskel
Posted 2008-09-04 7:29 AM (#22491 - in reply to #22449)
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Truth be told, (and I have pointed this out before, Muzz) I'm not a diehard windows fan. I've used windows because of the huge software base out there (much of it free), and the fact that when I need a new machine I can build one that's more than adequate for my needs for not so much $$.
Mac Pro, iMac, MacBook, whatever... they're expensive. And sorry... they break, too. And they need to be upgraded/replaced as well, just like PC's. It's the nature of the beast.

Micro$oft's days are numbered. Vista is an unspoken disaster. The many flavors of linux, with very windows/mac-like desktops are proliferating. Open-source software is becoming more dependable and abundant.
All my reasons for using windows are slowly disappearing. And that's just fine with me. Maybe I'll switch to Ubuntu and run Virtual Box (also free!).

I have nothing against Macs. In fact, watching discussions about them is kind of fun, in that it brings out the same passionate hostility that a good Taylor thread can stir up.
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Paulcc1
Posted 2008-09-04 9:12 AM (#22492 - in reply to #22449)
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I like Red Delicious better than Macs but if all they have at the store are macs then they will do just fine.
Pauly

I was just feeling left out :(
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Phil Wong
Posted 2008-09-04 9:21 AM (#22493 - in reply to #22449)
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Group hug for Paulcc1 !!
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an4340
Posted 2008-09-04 9:24 AM (#22494 - in reply to #22449)
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I agree on the Vista front, I'll just plod along with windows xp, but eventually I'll need a new 'puter, and if vista isn't cleaned up by then I'll be in Mac Land. For now, XP's working fine for me. As is chrome. three days now!
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cliff
Posted 2008-09-04 9:57 AM (#22495 - in reply to #22449)
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I was happy with NT.
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numbfingers
Posted 2008-09-04 10:50 AM (#22496 - in reply to #22449)
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Macs vs. Windows is a pointless argument. Windows (even Vista) isn't that bad and Macs aren't all that great. If you're a typical home user, buy whatever you like.

"Not being able to access work on the family computer is to me possibly a deal breaker." It's possible that the business system depends on some Windows/PC software or hardware that won't run on a Mac and can't be emulated. Having the right network protocols and browser might not be enough. Make sure someone else has a Mac running on the system before you buy. Or make sure there's a good return policy.

A Mac set up to dual-boot with XP might be a workaround.

Another option is to buy a Mac for general home use and an inexpensive Windows notebook for your work. Best Buy had a Compaq with 2GB memory for $379 in last Sunday's ad.

-Steve W.
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Gallerinski
Posted 2008-09-04 11:08 AM (#22497 - in reply to #22449)
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Originally posted by numbfingers:
"Not being able to access work on the family computer is to me possibly a deal breaker."
You guys got your priorities all wrong. Not being able to access work from your home computer is EXACTLY what you want. Those bastards own you from 9-5, but they don't own your soul. "Hey Dave, can you polish up this presentation tonight and rerun last quarters numbers for me." Ooops, sorry boss no-can-do. I use a MAC !!!

Actually Office runs slicker than a greased dildo through a cheerleading camp, cuz Mac is the platform it was originally designed for. The only issue I have is that I can't access SAP from home. But you know what? I'LL GET TO IT IN THE MORNING !!!

Having a Mac for all your music, photo, video, internet, and general home computing and have a cheap PC for work isn't a bad idea.
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FlySig
Posted 2008-09-04 11:12 AM (#22498 - in reply to #22449)
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I was happy with DOS! In fact, I did a lot of programming on DOS before windows even existed, and when windows first came out it was only good as a way to bring a computer to it's knees. Even Win3.1 was simply a DOS application that used up resources, but computers were gaining enough power to mostly get by.

When my wife was in grad school I did some programming on an AppleII and even sold some of it to researchers. I still preferred DOS, though.

My only gripe with Apple recently has been my brother in law, who is a general snob about everything, and who is a big snob about Apple.

But now windows SP3 has hobbled my wife's work computer (she was travelling and didn't talk to me before she clicked on intsall). Vista runs at a snail's pace on the daughter's laptop she needs for college.

We have come full circle to where Microsoft Windows is only good for bringing a computer to it's knees. They really screwed the pooch with Vista, and now with XP SP3. Three of the family's computers are no longer able to meet our needs. I don't care who's name is on the label, it just isn't acceptable. So the competition will get our business.
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