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Location: Warren,Pa. | If it were me, I'd take a deep breath and send it to the factory. I'd have them put the same bowl on, an "A" braced top, and an OpPro.
What are they doing with the Glen Campbell re-issues? They're not using the VT bracing for those, are they? |
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Location: Tampa, FL | I do believe BHB is hyperventillating |
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Location: Central Florida | Originally posted by bauerhillboy:
What are they doing with the Glen Campbell re-issues? They're not using the VT bracing for those, are they? "A" bracing on the reissues. |
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Location: SoCal | Jeff, you should price it out, just for the hell of it. |
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Location: closely held secret | You all should be ashamed. What a cheap way to boost your post counts.  |
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Location: Colorado Rocky Mountains | Jeff, if I really wanted to improve the sound, I'd place it in a floor rack, then plug in and play the Les Paul Standard. |
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| I have one of the GC re-issues. and yes it does have A bracing.( artist bowl too). |
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Location: Phoenix AZ | Everyone who has heard the reissue just raves about the sound. Ovation really nailed it with this one. Dave |
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Location: SoCal | I was very prepared to dislike the GC Artist RI, thinking they should have built the GC Deluxe Balladeer instead (I still think they should built that one!). Boy, was I wrong! |
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Location: Cherry Hill, NJ | The lack of tonal response on any acoustic, can be improved with good quality strings. In your case, I would try a Phosphor Bronze type. perhaps of a medium gauge. Also check the string action, too low will reduce tonal response. Your may want to look at frets.com for the string bend over the saddle on the bridge. This is important. |
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Location: Central Florida | Tommy, I'm using phosphor bronze strings now (D'Addario EJ-16s). I will check out frets.com. I've gone to them for other issues and have gotten some very useful information.
I should make clear, that what I'm experiencing (or not experiencing) tone-wise from this guitar isn't indicitive that there's a problem... It's actually typical for this model with the VT-8 bracing. It produces an extremely mid-range heavy tone, with thin bass and muted highs. It's like taking an equalizer and setting all the slides to flat. That's the best way I can think of to describe the acoustic sound.
Just to update, I've emailed Kim Keller about the possibility of a top-only replacement. I'll let you know what my options are when I hear back from him. |
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| FYI: waskel,most of us usually post for helpful reasons.I could care less about post counting. |
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Location: closely held secret | Matrix, it was a merely a comment on the fact that due to website lag several people had duplicated posts. Some have those have since been deleted. |
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Location: Tampa, FL | I believe it's what takes place just before you start digging the holes when installing a fence. |
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| Play Al D tunes on it like Mediterranean sundance or fantasia suite and the guitar kicks acoustically.. Thats why Al D. used then in the 70s.. Its a single note jazz box..
Thats kindof the cool thing about all the 1612s and 1627s , They almost all sound exactly the same.. When i had one I always used it for solos.. Strumming chords arent its strong point unless your wacking it. |
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Location: PDX | Originally posted by cliff:
WhatEVER strings you use, make sure you use StringTubes when you install them . . .
. . . Witko tells me they increase the tone exponentially. Ok -- i give up, what the heck are "StringTubes"? Or is this another inside joke between friends?
Just curious.
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Location: Boise, Idaho | It's a joke, but don't tell anyone. Do a search for string tubes, or if you'd like, search for "catheters". I have some of those for sale that should make great string tubes. |
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Location: Phoenix AZ | Mark, You are a lawyer and you must certainly know that rule number 1 is DEAL IN FACTS. The only reason you think String Tube Devices (STD's) are a "joke" is because as far as I know you have not tried them. I'm pretty sure of this because I am the sole distributor. You may have tried some rip-off copy (or catheter, as you call it), but please show me the proof that my invention does not improve the sound.
That being said, I am the first to admit that STD's are not the solution to every problem. In some cases STD's are more trouble than they are worth. For this particular question of the dead sounding VT braced guitars, I am afraid that STD's will not change that.
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Location: Central Florida | Well, I see this thread has begun to take on the customary twists and turns. :)
However, for anyone still interested in the original topic, I just heard back from Mr. Keller, and he gave me a couple of options.
I can have the complete top/bowl assembly replaced (w/ a mid-depth bowl), or for a buck and a half more they will fit a new top onto my existing artist bowl. He even said they'd include a L/H conversion on it for no additional charge... How's THAT for service! |
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Location: SoCal | You like the bowl depth and it's one of the original hand laid bowls from the 70's. I'd keep that one and go with the new top and the lefty conversion. See what they can do about popping an OP Pro in it. I swear, it will become the only guitar you ever play! |
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Location: Boise, Idaho | Be sure to get some STDs from Dave. I think he gets them from Amsterdam, so they must be good.
Sorry Dave if I didn't take you seriously. I guess I should have asked to see those STDs when I came to visit you, but you never told me you were an authorized distributer. |
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Location: Orlando, FL | I didn't know Dave distributed STDs. Actually, I thought Dave invented them! |
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Any Suggestions To Improve The Acoustic Tone On a '70's Glen Campbell 1627?
