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Location: Pennsylvania | So far, there's a white version of this too.
But where the black one is all black, this one is simply a white bowl instead of the black one. Everything else is still black.
The guy also says its mid-depth, but according to the model number and the pics, its not.
Here it is:
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Location: NJ | snow;
I suspect that's actually the grey one, and the camera/computer has "washed" the image. |
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Location: Pennsylvania | I dunno. The pics are pretty clear.
Also search for an Elite T on Musiciansfriend.com
The white Elite Ts are on there.
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Location: Dallas | I don't know guys, but I STILL see George Jetson dress'd like Elvis with the RhineStoneCowboy look to give it the colors that it is missing.
I think I'll order a pizza now.... and put my sunglass's on :rolleyes: |
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Location: NJ | hmmm.....y'know, a lotta these questions could be easily answered if Ovation would just PUT THE GODDAM THING ON THEIR WEBPAGE!!!!!!!!!
Again, the old "Field of Dreams" school of guitar marketing! |
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Location: Dallas | Thank You Cliff d. - I couldn't have said it better. Just did not now if I could say it like that as Tactfully without Black Helicopters showing up at my underground bomb shelter.
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Location: Pennsylvania | Damn straight, cliff! Ovation is 1 years behind on their webpage, closing in on 2 years behind!! Really sad.
It's crazy, but the official German Ovation page (ovation.de) is actually ahead of our version!
At least they have the new preamps up. On top of that, it's a better site. They have side views of all the bowl sizes and actually admit what each of them is good and bad for! (If you go to systransoft.com you can translate the text there.)
Anyway, Ovation needs to get on the ball!
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Location: NJ | I just want to point out that some of the information you get here is not the average info that is out of the street some of it is advanced notice Now that is not a defense for a way out of date website but as a one man operation I know how difficult it is to keep everything up. I really don't know the priority of the website with kmc |
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Location: SoCal | I hate to sound cynical, but I don't think they really have a priority regarding their website. I suspect that it is more of an after thought, something that they just figured they had better do. |
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Location: NJ | I've gone on about this before (more than ANYBODY wants to here again!), so I'll digress, but they really should give it a little more priority than they are. It doesn't take THAT much time, work or money to at least keep it current, and there are a lot smaller outfits that maintain and utilize theirs to more of it's potential. If you're gonna put out a new product, it should be at LEAST be mentioned on your page BEFORE someone starts selling them on eBay.
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Location: Pennsylvania | Woah. I just got some new info off from Musicians friend about the Elite T.
They could be wrong, but here's what they say:
They're offering it in "Iron Pewter." Which seems to be either a dark white or a light grey.
They say the top is not grade AA Sitka Spruce, but a "Specially formulated carbon fiber top." Whatever that means...
However, they claim it to have a 2-peice mahogany neck, and from all the pics I've seen, it's definately maple.
This just keeps getting weirder and weirder...
Try this link to the Musicians Friend page:
http://www.musiciansfriend.com/srs7/sid=020806142944216054193175636... |
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Location: Pennsylvania | As a follow up on the carbon fiber top, check out the close up on the sound holes at this link:
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=897565541&ed=102...
You can see ridges/texture underneath the paint that appears to have that carbon fiber ridges look. Maybe that's why the guys at NAMM thought the guitar didn't sound like an Elite. If it doesn't have the same soundboard, that seems to explain a lot.
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why do you think their initials are MF?
that is NOT a description of the guitar. |
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So what spec's do we believe?
Does it have a grade AA Sitka Spruce soundboard then?
Does it really have an ebony fretboard or *gasp* black painted rosewood?
Al, you've seen this in person, right? What do the specs look like to you?
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Location: NJ | You need not believe me I am only an idiot who saw the guitar in person and played it |
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Location: Scotland | Everything I've read about this guitar in the trade-press Namm reports said the top was spruce. The SMT was supposed to be a cost-effective carbon fibre guitar & they list at over 2K. I don't think it would be in the company's interest to produce a carbon-topped guitar at this price-point, even if they were able, which I doubt. I think the ridges are grain-lines in the spruce, visible because the finish is exceptionaly thin, which will also do a lot for the sound & go some way towards explaing why it doesn't sound like a "traditional" Elite. I wouldn't take a description in a Musisian's Friend Ad, or any big box-shifter for that matter, as gospel.
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Location: 6 String Ranch | I think it was said that the powers that be read this site, is that right Al, Miles??
If that is the case could we PLEASE have someone from CT get on this site and answer the questions here. Haysoos Kristo! talk about having a direct line to your customer...
USE IT !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! |
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I will repeat. The powers to be are well aware of this site and read it.
How they choose to participate or listen is totally up to them. Personally company involvment will only help to legitimize this site and keep the ovation Fans happy |
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Location: Pennsylvania | That would be extremely nice of them to answer some questions.
To the best of my knoledge, their current sales pamphlet/brochure dates back to November of '99, and their website, soon after.
I know I'm just reiterating the same old stuff, but if they really want to start selling their new models, it seems that they'd want to get advertising! Plus, inquiring minds really want to know what the company is truely offering, what its made of, and what it's really about!
Okay, so that was kind of a pointless post, I know. :p |
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Location: Las Cruces, NM | Let's all order one from M F's, and if it doesn't arrive with a mahogany neck and a carbon fiber top, we'll insist that they replace it with a guitar having those features. If it does have those features,I would be surprised but not unhappy. I was secretly hoping when I first heard about it, that it would have a carbon fiber top. But as Paul T says, they probably couldn't sell it for this price.
Here's to 400+ false advertising claims!
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Location: Scotland | I remember a UK dealer advertising an Eclipse as being made "entirely from spaceage Lyrachord" becuase it was finished in bowl-paint. MF are probably making similar assumptions.
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| I think that the new Elite T sounds great. May be due to only one set sound ports. Perhaps the maple neck contributes. The thin bowl paint finish definitely has an impact. The nut appears to be a black version of the those used on the Standard Balladeers. Definitely a rocked out look, but also a form follows function guitar. I find it interesting that Ovation introduced a very traditional (for Ovation) guitar at the NAMM show - the Folklore Deluxe - at the same time that they introduced the Elite T. Maybe they're trying to show that both styles fit into their vision of what a US Ovation is. |
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Location: Pennsylvania | Bailey, the thought did cross my mind about those MFers false advertising! You just have to have enough guts to spend $800 in order to file some complaint--that's the tough part! But then again, if all went well, you'd end up with a killer Adamas guitar! Hmmm... I'd be really tempting if I had the money! |
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| OK.here's the scoop. I sent Miles the actual specs and you guys are right. The top is solid spruce. Don't know where MF got that "specially formulated carbon fiber top" from, but I'll call them today and get them straightened out.
I apologize for not participating in these discussions more often Lots going on here and we spend hours each day just responding to all the inquiries we get from customers through our web site.
But honestly, I get in to this site every day and read what you all have to say. IT DOES MAKE A DIFFERENCE!!!
So how many of you would make the trip out for a OFC event at the factory? Maybe sometime this spring? |
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Location: 6 String Ranch | Thank You Rick for responding. Don't be such a stranger. |
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