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Beal
Posted 2004-04-13 3:08 PM (#190102 - in reply to #190077)
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HIZZ, you got either the guitars or the girls in the wrong order.
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Wuzhizzoner
Posted 2004-04-13 3:20 PM (#190103 - in reply to #190077)
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cwk2: WHEW! Thanks for pointing that one out! Chelsea would be the Applesauce and Jenna would be the Ovation.
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cliff
Posted 2004-04-13 3:28 PM (#190104 - in reply to #190077)
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Don't sell Chelsea short . . .

. . . y'know what they say . . . "homely" girls TRY harder.

Not that I would KNOW . . . . but that's what Moody tells me.
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Wuzhizzoner
Posted 2004-04-14 8:48 AM (#190105 - in reply to #190077)
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Posted by cliff:
Don't worry Steve, you'll get your shot at Jenna . . .

. . . she'll be waiting tables at a nearby WaffleHut come November.


After watching W (not W-2) last night... I don't think so cliff... :D
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cliff
Posted 2004-04-14 9:00 AM (#190106 - in reply to #190077)
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Wasn't impressed (and that's as far as I'll go w/it).

(click!)
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alpep
Posted 2004-04-14 9:59 AM (#190107 - in reply to #190077)
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you boys are gonna make me lock down this thread...
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Legend-LX-Fan
Posted 2004-04-14 10:06 AM (#190108 - in reply to #190077)
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Don't worry about the election. John Kerry will have a new job flipping burgers. After all, he has flip flopped on just about every issue, he would be good at that.
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Tony Calman
Posted 2004-04-14 11:11 AM (#190109 - in reply to #190077)
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Ladies and Gentlemen,
I LOVE political "discussions" with other less fortunate (less fortunate because they don't agree with me.) I can use my double-bass voice to outshout some of the best.
HOWEVER, in all seriousness, talking about music may not be as important to us in the long run but it is so much more fun.
Let's see, which of the President/former President/candidate's daughters could be compared to the Acadamy, Applause, Celeb, Balladeer and others?
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Wuzhizzoner
Posted 2004-04-14 11:47 AM (#190110 - in reply to #190077)
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OK aLeX, I'm duly chastized for even starting this thread...
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cliff
Posted 2004-04-14 12:10 PM (#190111 - in reply to #190077)
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As well you should be . . . . . ;)
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Stevechapman
Posted 2004-04-14 12:25 PM (#190112 - in reply to #190077)
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Al Has Spoken!
Lets get back to music Talk!!
It'already been said and Have to agree..It's more fun! :D
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willard
Posted 2004-04-14 12:26 PM (#190113 - in reply to #190077)
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Without politics, we never would have heard of people like Bob Dylan, Peter,Paul and Mary, Pete Seeger, Phil Ochs, or Woody Guthrie. This just might not be the right venu for the discussions. Lets try the Hamer board. They talk about all sorts of crap there!
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Legend-LX-Fan
Posted 2004-04-14 12:34 PM (#190114 - in reply to #190077)
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Bill good point. I like to hear all the performers you listed perform. My problem comes when they open their mouths and start talking about thier political views. Who gives a crap???
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Tony Calman
Posted 2004-04-14 1:03 PM (#190115 - in reply to #190077)
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Made the mistake of going to a Joan Baez concert at San Diego State Univ in 70's - good performance but did not appreciate being accosted/solicited for money by those advocating anarchy, return of California to indigenous natives, etc.

Got so bad, interfered with the performance. A fair amount of people left.
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Wuzhizzoner
Posted 2004-04-14 1:56 PM (#190116 - in reply to #190077)
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"Tin soldiers and Nixon's coming ...
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stonebobbo
Posted 2004-04-14 4:25 PM (#190117 - in reply to #190077)
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I'm sick and tired of hearing things
From uptight, short-sighted, narrow-minded hypocritics
All i want is the truth
Just gimme some truth
I've had enough of reading things
By neurotic, psychotic, pig-headed politicians
All i want is the truth
Just gimme some truth

No short-haired, yellow-bellied, son of Tricky Dicky
Is gonna Mother Hubbard soft soap me
With just a pocketful of hope
Money for dope
Money for rope
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Wuzhizzoner
Posted 2004-04-14 4:33 PM (#190118 - in reply to #190077)
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That's in the key of D, isn't it stonebobbo? AND ... for the tie-in ... John used a Custom Legend during that time. :cool:
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Paul Templeman
Posted 2004-04-14 6:17 PM (#190119 - in reply to #190077)
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Originally posted by Legend-LX-Fan:
My problem comes when they open their mouths and start talking about thier political views. Who gives a crap???


I Do. One of the functions of a good songwiter/musician/artist/performer, whether politicaly motivated or not, is as a chronicler of the times & situations in which they live, and this function has produced some of the most important & potent music of the last century. Personally I'd rather hear someone with passion, like Steve Earle or Mellancamp whether I aggree with them politically or not (though I do) than say The Carpenters or some fuckin' pussy like John Denver, or any of the countless other white-bread liberals, hipocrits, fence-sitters or record company whores out there. If music doesn't have an element of danger, or at least some genuine heartfelt conviction, then it's usually not worth listening to. Saw a Joan Baez concert on TV recently, I could just about stomach the politics but could't stomach the 3rd rate playing, singing & songwriting,
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willard
Posted 2004-04-14 6:27 PM (#190120 - in reply to #190077)
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Oh come on Paul, Rocky Nountain High? Had to be one of the great social commentaries of the century! Screw the rest of the world's problems, I'm headin' for the mountains.
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alpep
Posted 2004-04-14 6:29 PM (#190121 - in reply to #190077)
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hmmmmm
do I suspend Hizzoner for starting this? or Paul for using foul language ?.....


decisions decisions...
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Paul Templeman
Posted 2004-04-14 6:32 PM (#190122 - in reply to #190077)
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Rocky Mountain High by John Denver? The guy who sunk huge petrol storage tanks into his mountain retreat during a gas crisis? What an ecologist. Lip-service. Hipocrasy
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moody, p.i.
Posted 2004-04-14 6:37 PM (#190123 - in reply to #190077)
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Please note that I've stayed out of this one....
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Paul Templeman
Posted 2004-04-14 6:38 PM (#190124 - in reply to #190077)
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and so you should............I only stuck my oar in when it got back to music
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Stevechapman
Posted 2004-04-14 7:16 PM (#190125 - in reply to #190077)
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Paul,
Let me start by saying I agree that you have to be aware of whats going on around you. and yes some songwriters do chronicle the times very well. I truly believe That there's also room for moving ones heart.John Denver did some pretty good Love Songs. They're good Acoustic Guitar Tunes. He's not the only one. Jim Croce and James Taylor are some others. I don't worry About The politics of Songwriting as much as does the song truly tell a story or reach to your heart.Not all the Beatle Songs were Social Commentaries of the time some wer just fun Songs and some moved the heart.
In Other Words, Variety Is The Spice Of Life.
Not trying to turn Sappy on anyone, Just trying to say that Some Like variety.
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Paul Templeman
Posted 2004-04-14 7:25 PM (#190126 - in reply to #190077)
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I'm a huge Croce fan, my band are currently working on a version of "Don't Mess Around with Jim" though I find listening to James Taylor the aural equivalent of watching paint dry. I don't think political statements are necessary or essential in music, but equally I don't dismiss it or shy away from it. If political comment was left solely to politicians or the media we'd all be screwed.
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